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Highlights the stupidity of IP laws in the US. If you think you are infringed, you have to go after the party or you lose your rights to your own material. Dumb. But not as dumb as being able to patent common sense uses of technology and collecting fees or getting awards from lawsuits for someone actually using a technology that exists. whatever happened to the good Bush's tort reforms?
 
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Highlights the stupidity of IP laws in the US. If you think you are infringed, you have to go after the party or you lose your rights to your own material. Dumb. But not as dumb as being able to patent common sense uses of technology and collecting fees or getting awards from lawsuits for someone actually using a technology that exists. whatever happened to the good Bush's tort reforms?

That's pretty much how it works around the world because of treaty agreements.
 
I thought this was one of those spot the difference images for a bit - as it took me a few seconds to even see what was different from the two logos.

Both images still looked like pears to me. The leaf in the first one made me think of nature, not Apple Inc.
We have to eliminate all pear trees from growing, especially if Apple decides to enter the pear juice market. Or maybe genetically change how pears look when they're growing. It would probably be easier than the whole pear industry going bankrupt.

Apple Pears are delicious, but it's clearly a Chinese effort to capitalize on the Apple brand, even though they were from the gold rush days. Or maybe, the Apple growers should form a coalition because Apples grew before computers!

I'm surprised that Qualcomm hasn't gone after the most delicious apple yet, the snapdragon. The NY apple industry was like, people love mobile phones, and people love apples. It's a no brainer for the Apple growers, but maybe they should have been microchip apples (but then, Apple makes the M1 now) or just yummy, crispy NY apples. Why get lost in litigation when you can just change the name of your fruit?

All these examples are really problematic and threaten intellectual property. I can't take it, and neither should any company with that much money and name recognition. Someone could end up buying a fruit instead of a computer or something!

Also, I tried to eat my mbp the other day because I thought it was a macintosh apple, and I broke half my teeth. Who can I sue to fix that?!
 
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We have to eliminate all pear trees from growing, especially if Apple decides to enter the pear juice market. Or maybe genetically change how pears look when they're growing. It would probably be easier than the whole pear industry going bankrupt.

Apple Pears are delicious, but it's clearly a Chinese effort to capitalize on the Apple brand, even though they were from the gold rush days. Or maybe, the Apple growers should form a coalition because Apples grew before computers!

I'm surprised that Qualcomm hasn't gone after the most delicious apple yet, the snapdragon. The NY apple industry was like, people love mobile phones, and people love apples. It's a no brainer for the Apple growers, but maybe they should have been microchip apples (but then, Apple makes the M1 now) or just yummy, crispy NY apples. Why get lost in litigation when you can just change the name of your fruit?

All these examples are really problematic and threaten intellectual property. I can't take it, and neither should any company with that much money and name recognition. Someone could end up buying a fruit instead of a computer or something!

Also, I tried to eat my mbp the other day because I thought it was a macintosh apple, and I broke half my teeth. Who can I sue to fix that?!
The fact that you are using words, similar words to ones I have used in the past makes me want to sue you for each infraction!
 
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Legal proceedings are a requirement of defending trademarks. If they aren't defended, they become valid arguments for future litigation.
I've seen this arguments on here before. I don't know about how it is in the USA (though it would seem bizarre if it differed significantly to the UK) but certainly over here that's NOT how trademark law works. At all.
 
If they lose, that opens the doors to other companies attempting infringement in all kinds of ways too. They cared which is probably why they settled rather than risk a loss in court.
The entire point here is that, in reality, neither the original or modified pear logo DOES infringe Appe's trademark. They didn't have to 'object' to it in the first place in order to keep their trademark. That's just nonsense and not the law. If it had looked very similar then by all means make a case for Apple to object, BUT IT'S NOT. That's the point.
 
I've seen this arguments on here before. I don't know about how it is in the USA (though it would seem bizarre if it differed significantly to the UK) but certainly over here that's NOT how trademark law works. At all.

Are you sure? As I understand it, if you know a mark infringes and don't take action after five (?) years you lose the right to stop the someone from using it. It would seem under UK law you need to defend it or risk the ability to stop someone from using an infringing mark.

The entire point here is that, in reality, neither the original or modified pear logo DOES infringe Appe's trademark. They didn't have to 'object' to it in the first place in order to keep their trademark. That's just nonsense and not the law. If it had looked very similar then by all means make a case for Apple to object, BUT IT'S NOT. That's the point.

Whether it was or not was infringinging was never decided since they settled; Apple objected on the grounds they felt it was too close to their trademark. Settling without a decision makes sense because then neither side risks losing, and Apple can show they defend their trademarks.
 
I just love the Pear supporters here. If Apple was being sued over something petty they would cheer it. But it’s Apple that is complaining and the Pear lovers are calling foul in defense of this poor little small company as if the size of a company gives them the right to copy another company’s logo design simply because said company is a giant. A Big Nope!
 
If you were in charge of IP for a $2T company, wouldn’t you defend it like a mama bear protecting her cubs? Yes you would, or you wouldn’t have that job in the first place. They did exactly like they should have — protect the IP, no matter how small, no matter how seemingly harmless.
Yeah, like mama bear protecting her cubs against a vaguely bear-shaped shrubbery.
 
I don't see the bite in it. Apple just made a small company trying to survive waste money in attorney fees. Ridiculous!
In this particular case, they also got a ton of free publicity, so maybe they’ll be better in the end. But makes you think about how many times giant companies pull off crap like this going unnoticed.
 
The entire point here is that, in reality, neither the original or modified pear logo DOES infringe Appe's trademark. They didn't have to 'object' to it in the first place in order to keep their trademark. That's just nonsense and not the law. If it had looked very similar then by all means make a case for Apple to object, BUT IT'S NOT. That's the point.
In a perfect world, Apple would always look out for the little guys but we don't live in that world which is why we have laws and courts. If this was a battle really worth fighting, it would go all the way but no parties were willing to go further.
 
No, that’s not how it works. It was a trademark opposition. It doesn’t set any kind of precedent. It’s not a lawsuit.
Everything sets precedent. That's how history and the law works. Even if the law and judges say differently, it's impossible for it to not affect their rulings.
 
Everything sets precedent. That's how history and the law works. Even if the law and judges say differently, it's impossible for it to not affect their rulings.
That is not at all how the law works. First, not every jurisdiction is based on precedent (some are based on the napoleonic system). Second, precedent only applies in certain situations. The ruling of the trademark office does not set precedent for a court. The ruling of one court does not set precedent for another court except under certain situations (superior court in the same jurisdiction, sister courts in same circuit, etc).

If you are going to make statements that are amenable to fact-checking, I suggest you learn about the topics first.
 
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