Pricing of regular 15" MBP vs. Retina

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by dlsife, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. dlsife macrumors member

    Mar 15, 2011
    15" MBP = $1799. Best Buy has the 15" rMBP for $2089.

    So, for $290 you get (a) retina display, (b) SSD and (c) an extra 4 MB of RAM.

    Hard to see how the regular 2012 15" makes sense if you look at it that way. Maybe I'm missing something.
  2. Comeagain? macrumors 68020


    Feb 17, 2011
    Spokane, WA
    User serviceable parts are a big part of wanting a standard computer.
  3. iLikeTurtles! macrumors 6502

    Jun 22, 2012
    well, its more money.

    completly new computer vs a a reliable long term design.

    not saying the retina isnt reliable, but i mean its like buying cars, the 2010 model is prob better than a 2006 toyota. any bugs, etc would be worked out and fine tuned throughout the eyears
  4. WardC macrumors 68030


    Oct 17, 2007
    Fort Worth, TX
    I can't understand getting the regular 15" MacBook Pro at this point unless they were priced under $1000.
  5. ryane67 macrumors member

    Jun 13, 2012
    I would, if they would put the 1gb GPU in the lower end model, that not being the case however, poo on that idea.
  6. definitive macrumors 68000


    Aug 4, 2008
    depends on if you want to get a $2k computer to browse the web at starbucks on a high res screen (this is how i see the retina mbp), or if you want a powerful computer on which you can do work...

    anyway, here's what i've went with:

    base classic model + 256gig ssd + 16gigs of ram for ~$2100 and then another $250 for applecare. shopping around can usually net you a much better deal than going directly to apple.
  7. sweetbrat macrumors 65816


    Jun 17, 2009
    Redford, MI
    This has been pointed out in a few other threads. There are pros and cons for each model. No computer is right for everyone, and at this point, there's most definitely a market for both models.
  8. Greg M macrumors 6502

    Jul 13, 2008
    Actually you can easily upgrade the MBP yourself to a 256gb SSD and 16gb of ram and still be slightly cheaper then the retina. You also have the option of replacing the DVD drive with a second hard drive. For things like video editing that would be very beneficial. Plus, what if you have to use programs that will never be optimized for the retina display? I can't see using Office all day long on the retina.

    On the other hand, the retina screen with it's reduced glare and the flexibility of using different resolutions is well worth the cost difference if you don't need those other things. Plus the screen is so beautiful that it makes it a joy to use.

    So yes, both options make sense for different people and for different uses.
  9. zerotiu macrumors regular

    Jun 12, 2012
    port and upgradeability and price
  10. pepatrick macrumors member

    Nov 23, 2011
    I almost got the MBPr..ordered it and cancelled it after about 2 weeks. Decided to go with the 2.7 cMBP for the upgrade reason. Standard SSDs will go down significantly over the next year..I will add a 2nd ssd in the opti bay and not have to buy proprietary stuff from OWC and Apple. Its plugged into a 27" thunderbolt display so pretty tough to beat that....especially editing photos.
  11. VFC, Jul 1, 2012
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2012

    VFC macrumors 6502a

    Feb 6, 2012
    SE PA.
    I decided on a price point of $2200. I made a pro/con chart for both models (8 +/- items for each model). For my needs and priorities, the cMBP edged out the retina.

    The final decision point (#9) in favor of the classic was how I would feel when they released the next major update in 2013. I tend not to sell my products when something new comes out. Having said that, I would have been far more disappointed owning the 2012 retina when they release the 2013 model with a more capable video card.
  12. Reimer macrumors regular


    Sep 15, 2006
    One of the biggest things for me is that unless you're willing to spend at least another $600, you're stuck with a 256GB drive without the use of externals in the rMBP.

    With the regular MBP, you have the option of swapping out the optical drive and have both the capacity of a spindle drive plus the speed of an SSD.
  13. Greg M macrumors 6502

    Jul 13, 2008
    Actually you will be able to purchase a larger SSD for it down the road which will be less than the $600. SSD prices are dropping like a rock. Sure these will cost more than 2.5 SSD's but Apple is going to be switching to SSD's more and more and it looks like it'll be this form so that will help to bring down prices.
  14. Drag'nGT macrumors 68000


    Sep 20, 2008
    I'm looking at the high end standard 15" MBP instead of the rMBP. I really like the upgradeability of the standard model, plus it's more powerful for the same price. But that being said, I really want the rMBP. :eek:
  15. InlawBiker macrumors 6502

    Apr 6, 2007
    I agree 100%. Both are too expensive, but if you're spending that much you may as well get the Retina.
  16. Aodhan macrumors regular

    Jun 16, 2012
    I went with the MBP over the MBPR because I wanted upgradeability and repairability, and because I just had a sinking feeling that a 650M with 1GB of ram wouldn't be enough for a good gaming experience with a 2880x1800 display.

    Also, I am cautious with Rev A products from Apple. Now, the MBPR is a gorgeous piece of hardware, and there are a lot of people deliriously happy with theirs. But Apple's continued obsession with thin has led to a notebook that is simply too compact to allow upgrades or repairs. For me, the MBP seems quite thin as it is, and it at least allows me to open it up and get my groove on. I can, and will eventually, add an SSD.

    So it's really a compromise. I pass on the retina and the new thin hotness, but I get other things that are important to me. There's room for both the MBP and the MBPR in the market.
  17. dlsife thread starter macrumors member

    Mar 15, 2011
    All very good thoughts. Thanks for the responses. I continue to be torn.
  18. Greg M macrumors 6502

    Jul 13, 2008
    Have you looked at the retina yet?
  19. awer25 macrumors 65816


    Apr 30, 2011
    This is why I'm going with a regular MBP. 256GB SSD and 1TB HDD.
  20. dlsife thread starter macrumors member

    Mar 15, 2011
    Yes, and it's very, very nice. And I have no need for the ODD. Hence my original post trying to justify it financially :)
  21. Greg M macrumors 6502

    Jul 13, 2008
    There really isn't much cost difference, if any, between the two. Add an SSD and ram (aftermarket of coarse) to the MBP and it's almost the same price. Then it's basically do you want the ODD or the retina display?
  22. dlsife thread starter macrumors member

    Mar 15, 2011
  23. powerslave65 macrumors 6502


    Mar 21, 2011
    Sherman Oaks CA
    If you need a robust laptop right this second then the cMBP is the only choice.
  24. Slivortal macrumors 6502

    Jun 14, 2012
    So, wait a minute. A computer with the same specs as yours with a larger graphics card and a better screen is somehow less powerful? I don't get your line of reasoning at all.

    I mean, sure, $300 may cost you a few trips to Starbucks, but I'd rather have a smaller chassy, better screen, and better graphics card than 30 latés.
  25. splitpea macrumors 6502a

    Oct 21, 2009
    Among the starlings
    If I were buying right now I'd got for the classic with hi-res, for the following reasons:

    - 1440x900 is too small for me to work efficiently on, and the reports of rMBP lagginess at 1680x1050 / 1900x1200 are discouraging.

    - Upgrading the RAM in the classic to match the rMBP would only cost about $100.

    - I can always use an optibay solution to install an SSD.

    - I need more than 256MB internal storage and the rMBP upgrade prices are prohibitive.

    While I would *love* the smaller and lighter form factor, and while I'm sure it's great for some people, it's just not a practical solution for me.

    Maybe in a couple generations when the GPUs catch up; or if they ever re-enable aftermarket memory upgrades.

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