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20g 18K Gold today costs $588.

Apple may surprise us and offer the Edition much cheaper than most think. If they stay below $1500 they may sell well.

Fashion is not priced by the 'scrap' value of the metal. I was simply making a point that the aWatch is going to be a quality product and not some 'fly by night' plated trickery jewelry scam. As an example here is a 18K necklace and pendent sans a watch that costs over $4500 for 20g.
 
Fashion is not priced by the 'scrap' value of the metal. I was simply making a point that the aWatch is going to be a quality product and not some 'fly by night' plated trickery jewelry scam. As an example here is a 18K necklace and pendent sans a watch that costs over $4500 for 20g.

Yes, but that is selling on the brand name.
Like a clay pot by a famous company that makes half a dozen by hand and no longer makes that.

People with money, generally are not dumb.
It's Apple. The MASS market, MASS quantity device maker that changes and updates products all the time.
They have, in effect, tens of thousands of far eastern workers in slave shops making things on the cheap for them to sell at big profits to us in the west.
They have CNC machine that cut metal all day long.
Mass production on the most massive scale imaginable.

That alone devalues anything.

If Tiffany made things all the same in the hundreds of millions and everyone had one they would be considered pretty trash brand.

I understand a Gold Apple Watch is trying in one leap to do a 100% reversal on this concept. From mass production everyone has one, iPhone to a classy designers, rare item for a MASSIVE markup as it's special Gold cased watch.

We shall see if such a reversal is possible.

All Apple have to do, in simplified terms is to take the piece of aluminium off the CNC they have just made, place the gold blank on the same machine, press go, and it cuts out a gold one.

In reality they would keep a separate machine setup for gold, due to swarf collection and different feeds and speeds of the cutting tools as gold will be even easier to machine.

In reality it's not going to be THAT much of a difference than the cost difference between aluminium, steel, gold.

Are the doing Titanium? That would be the same also, again, feeds and speeds need changing.

I'd imagine it will be raw material cost difference, plus Apple Tax on top to bring it up to a price point they feel it right, without being worried people will rip it to shreds in comments.

I'd also, think, as Apple is a mass market company, they don't want to price it so high, people think, no point, I'll wait for the next one, it will be better anyway.

Again, the fact it is the exact same product, not higher quality in ANY way, other than the material of the shell/case is not a helping factor.

The electronics are not going to be higher quality, or it's not going to do anything better, or last any longer like a mechanical device.

Utter and total guess, I'm thinking $1000 - $1500 for the Bling Watch.

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20g 18K Gold today costs $588.

Apple may surprise us and offer the Edition much cheaper than most think. If they stay below $1500 they may sell well.

LOL..... I typed my price guess BEFORE I read what you have just written.

Seems like we both have the same number range in mind :D
 
LOL..... I typed my price guess BEFORE I read what you have just written.

Seems like we both have the same number range in mind :D

Yes, I think we agree on this one. Anything more than that would be obscene, silly and deserving of failure.
 
The Edition is a lot like an Acura NSX. Acura won't sell many NSX's and most can't afford it. However it's a marque will drive showroom traffic and increase sales of other models.

No one buys an Acura MDX because they saw the NSX. And the reason you see so few of them is because no one wants to drop 120k on a honda.

But at least the NSX offeres "different" tech and performance.

Your analogy would be more accurate if you said a "120k gold Acura MDX" as the edition watch offeres zero difference in tech and utility except for the cost of the gold.
 
No one buys an Acura MDX because they saw the NSX. And the reason you see so few of them is because no one wants to drop 120k on a honda.....

Actually they do (or will). Someone is out car shopping for a SUV. They go look at the Lexus RX 350. Then they come to see the MDX but are leaning towards the Lexus. They spot an NSX and look it over while drooling. All the time the salesperson is convincing then they should buy an MDX instead of the Lexus. It's natural that some of the NSX 'rubs off' and influences their decision making and could tip the sale to a MDX.

I know it's not possible to make 100% analogies with the aWatch.
 
Actually they do (or will). Someone is out car shopping for a SUV. They go look at the Lexus RX 350. Then they come to see the MDX but are leaning towards the Lexus. They spot an NSX and look it over while drooling. All the time the salesperson is convincing then they should buy an MDX instead of the Lexus. It's natural that some of the NSX 'rubs off' and influences their decision making and could tip the sale to a MDX.

I know it's not possible to make 100% analogies with the aWatch.

I agree that concept cars will and do generate more attention and attraction to a certain brand, but at least they offer something that the regular models don't.. Some form of utility.. So one might be able to justify the higher price point.

But the fact that the only difference between the watches (from what I know up to now) is only the materials (gold) I can't see a ginormous leap in price as predicted. I'm not denying there won't be demand for 10k price point. Just don't think apple will price it that high. But if I'm wrong, then I would expect them to release the same style iphone edition with intent on taking market share from vertu (which I think is garbage) but I still don't see apple going that way.

But at the end of the day if you're correct and the business model actually makes them lots of cash why wouldn't they do it?
 
...But the fact that the only difference between the watches (from what I know up to now) is only the materials (gold) I can't see a ginormous leap in price as predicted...

It's looking likely that Apple might offer S chip and battery upgrade options on the Watch and Edition. They also have a ceramic coated sensor that should make it last for years (while the Sport is exposed) plus sapphire crystal.
 
A LOT of people are coming up with a LOT of wild views.

It reminds me a bit about the WILD speculation, lovely renders and impossible tech that people thought the watch was going to have.

The harsh reality was something far more down to earth and normal that many here hoped.

I do wonder if we again, as leaving reality and going into wild speculations about more watch talk.

Perhaps Apple will totally change the way they have been working over the past decade plus, but normal Apple = make something nice quality, but keep the price at a level where the masses can afford it, yet, even though everyone has one, they still feel special for having it.

Don't push too hard, hold some things back, and do a yearly update to keep the money coming in, thinner, faster, more features.

Will they change this with the watch. Tricky.
They are a mass consumer, mass product company.

Its normally the very small companies that offer customized phones for people with money who want something special. the type of companies that the general public either don't know about or never look at.

Not just the same model watch every Apple loving kid has, but in gold.
 
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