Can you articulate factual reasons? I think the vast majority of users don’t agree with you.
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Very unlikely that there is a 1:1 correlation between European iPhone users and Facebook users.
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I tried that..twice, ditching Whatsapp, not easy, some friends/Family actually got pissed off by me telling them I wouldn't use it anymore, they refused to install other Apps.
See how engraved Facebook is in most of their lives, they have no idea what's being collected and how it influences them....just look at Brexit/US elections/Facebook-Cambridge Analytica.
As for the Topic, good on ya (Apple) to stick to it.
I wish it was that soon, it will be coming as a "service" feature though eventually down the road. While almost enticing enough, and personally will finally allow me to rid iPhone daily usage, it won't be free which will hamper adoption. The structure of it will be based around Apple's entire cloud of services not just iMessage specifically so it will be quite inviting for some but not all.
This story seems to change like we're playing a game of Telephone. It started as "the new iOS privacy features require these apps make changes in order to receive calls", which makes sense given they're not being allowed to stay running in the background. But now this story claims the changes impact the apps' own privacy features - howevers as far as I can tell (from the accessible parts of the story), there's no actual supporting evidence of this new claim.
Thanks Apple for taking something that works and making it unworkable.
There are many reasons for using encrypted messaging systems. I don't understand why people are calling for Apple to have a monopoly on these features on iOS and macOS. This is totally uncalled for.
BTW, some of these, like Signal, are open source, which represents a much more interesting option than proprietary apps (like iMessage). Open sources are much more trustable (as a rule of thumb).
There are many reasons for using encrypted messaging systems. I don't understand why people are calling for Apple to have a monopoly on these features on iOS and macOS. This is totally uncalled for.
BTW, some of these, like Signal, are open source, which represents a much more interesting option than proprietary apps (like iMessage). Open sources are much more trustable (as a rule of thumb).
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Wait. When did Signal, Threema, and the others become sketchy?
-Group chat capabilities
-Multimedia files capabilities
-Performance
-Audio quality is a joke
-Stickers bar & superfluous features
-As with many of the stock apps lately, it crashes often
Imagine how bad it is, people still use whatsapp worldwide even with iphones.
You have to expand on that a bit. It clearly has multimedia file capability. So which ones are missing? Performance has always been fine for me, so what specifically isn’t performing adequately and against what measure? Audio quality has nothing to do with iMessage, how would it? Stickers is an ignorable feature. Crashes often? How can you measure and prove that? I have not seen evidence of that. Group chat capabilities? Which ones? I can be in a group, silence a group, and leave one. What are the missing capabilities?
If whatever it is that Apple’s doing will make things more difficult for Facebook, then I’m all for it.
Well, any unintended use of an API, no matter what utility it provides to the user, is inherently sketchy. Apple is clearly not providing an adequate replacement API for a reason, and that reason is looking out for its customers and only that.
Repeat it out loud 100 times: “Apple knows best. Apple has my best interests in mind.”
That’s Signal.
Don’t understand why anybody uses WhatsApp when Signal is built using the same well-vetted encryption library and is open-source, cross-platform, and has no connection to Facebook.
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So no encryption for private messages and your response is "working as intended". If the intention is less privacy on iPhone, yeah, working as intended.
Very difficult to do. Microsoft can’t even eliminate zero day vulnerabilities. But for sure security and privacy can be separated. Did the FaceTime bug reveal any Apple related user data?
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What this says is the Pushkit api can’t be used for encryption, it doesn’t say encryption can’t be used.
You might rethink your response, Apple has no obligation whatsoever to support unintended use of an API, the ones that are wrong are those App developers.
Apple isn't even cutting off them right now, they will get time to recode their Apps, and have plenty of time to do so, most of those Devs have the means to do that easily, they have the cash, it's just laziness.
The problem here is lack of both communication and planning.
If Apple wanted to prevent that use of the API, then it should have done that. Instead, Apple let people user their APIs in that way for years, then after people have built big businesses on that functionality, they suddenly just take it away.
The correct approach would have been to talk with the big developers, asking why they were using the API in that way, then building out a solution for that use case alongside sunsetting unauthorized uses.
Apparently you can't walk and breath at the same time?
Sounds like it's magical on your end so that's great.
-Would be nice to be able to reply an individual comment, specially on group chats.
-When you wish to send multiple pictures and select "all photos", you can't even select more than one.
-Audio quality has nothing to do with iMessage? really? lol.
-Sending multiple multimedia files, pics or videos take much longer than most third party chat apps (haven't found a slower one yet).
-How can I measure if it crashes? my friend, sometimes when watching a photo in full screen mode and tapping back to the chat message window leaves us with no keyboard, let alone freezes.
-Going through all chat shared media has no categorization whatsoever, at least whatsapp provides monthly categorization.
-On the desktop version, unless you toggle videos fullscreen, there is no timeline as to be able to skip/fast forward.
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Umm, so you can't decrypt in the background, meaning it'll be a bit slow when it starts up. Or have use other libraries that allow it to run decryption in the background. How is that less privacy?
And yes, I know, some people get hundreds or thousands of messages between checking apps. And it will be rather slow for them.
If developers only stopped misusing API´s then Apple wouldn't have to do these kinds of changes.
Feels like they got what they deserved.
Feels like they got what they deserved.
Sketchy? Those are the most Secure chat apps on the planet.
OMG! That makes so much sense. LOL! How did I not see it? But can I just repeat it 5 or 6 times? I mean, 100 seems a bit cultish... kinda Scientology-liike.
How about this: "Because most revolutionary and meaningful things in life come from unintended uses, that includes life itself"