Pro Applications Update 2008-01

[edoates]

It only conforms if you go back to HDV tape, and if your rendering is set to ProRes then you'll be working in a less compressed, I-Frame, 4:2:2 space so you're gfx, color fx, etc., will all look better than if you had the render engine set to HDV. Also, FC shouldn't "double dip" when it comes to renders/exports. FC should always goes back to the source media so that you avoid unnecessary compression.

Going to ProRes from the get go will obviously eliminate problems associated w/HDV, but if you don't have the time, budget or resources to make that happen then changing the render settings will get you most of the benefits of ProRes w/o costing you a dime.


Lethal

If you "render in ProRes," when you export, regardless of selected Quicktime format (HDV or ProRes), it writes the entire file again, even if you DE-selected "self contained" (that is, you want a reference movie), so you double your storage. If you want to use ProRes with HDV video, maybe the best work flow is to injest as HDV so you can log and capture, etc., then put that footage in a ProRes sequence. Then when you render, you will get the big ProRes files, but exporting to ProRes "reference" should get to a small export file with just the reference pointers.

But unless you have some particular need for Prores (compositing, complex effects, etc., better previews) there is not a good reason to use it. Rendering ProRes takes about the same time as conforming.

Note: there is a bug in 6.0.2 (can't confirm 6.0.3) which causes SOME HDV conformations (render) to produce very blocky video (like 16x16 blocks) which don't disappear on export. The only work around I've found is to...you guessed it...render in ProRes.

Eddie O

 

[Intarweb]

I wonder if Compressor 3 will work now for the thousands of people that have been unable to use it since June of last year?

 

[LethalWolfe]

If you "render in ProRes," when you export, regardless of selected Quicktime format (HDV or ProRes), it writes the entire file again, even if you DE-selected "self contained" (that is, you want a reference movie), so you double your storage. If you want to use ProRes with HDV video, maybe the best work flow is to injest as HDV so you can log and capture, etc., then put that footage in a ProRes sequence.

Why would you put the HDV video into a ProRes sequence instead of justing setting the HDV seq to render in ProRes? Working w/HDV in a ProRes sequence would require rendering every piece of footage you dropped into the timeline.

Then when you render, you will get the big ProRes files, but exporting to ProRes "reference" should get to a small export file with just the reference pointers.

I'm having problems w/my machine exporting a QT movie of HDV in a Pro Res timeline. All I get is black video.

But unless you have some particular need for Prores (compositing, complex effects, etc., better previews) there is not a good reason to use it.

But that is the whole point of setting your timeline to render in Pro Res. It will mean less compression to your gfx, color efx, text, etc.,. If you are not adding to or altering your video image, or if you are masting back to HDV tape, then there is really nothing to be gained by working in a less compressed format.

Rendering ProRes takes about the same time as conforming.

In my tests setting the timeline to render in ProRes produced quicker results than rendering natively in HDV and much quicker results than conforming the HDV video.


Lethal

 

[Intarweb]

YAY Compress or 3 works now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR SO I F^CKING THOUGHT!!!!!!

Of course, the genius Apple programmers have ONCE AGAIN failed to deliver a proper patch for Compressor 3. Geeeeeee it's only been a year or so and there's STILL no fix for the thousands of people that cannot use Compressor 3 because of the "unable to submit to queue" error.

The patch worked, until I restarted my computer. Way to go Apple! Way to fail yet again at patching this program. Maybe if I say it was installed on the iPhone they'll get a proper fix for it? Is that what's needed to get a proper fix for anything?

They STILL don't have a solution for installing single FCS2 apps only. I have to use a third party software. They STILL don't have a script that removes the files necessary for a proper reinstallation. I've tried everything under the sun to try and get it to work, all to no avail. The only thing that's left is to do a complete erase and reinstall. Asking to do that is absolutely RIDICULOUS.

As every day passes, I get more and more irritated that I bought FCS2. I wish I had bootlegged it now. They don't deserve my money.

 

[Montserrat]

Hmm, I've been having stability issues with Shake on my Mac Pro. I figured I wouldn't get any more updates since they stopped "supporting" Shake 4.1. Maybe this will help?

If it hasn't, Have you tried zapping the .plist?