I would just be happy with a 27 inch Apple Display that was under $1,000 to have something nice to pair with a Mac mini or a MacBook
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Pro Display XDR 2 and Larger iMac: Here's What the Latest Rumors Say
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The current studio display gets close to that when it is on sale from Best Buy or Amazon - it's basically permanently on sale from Amazon for $1,299 (but without the adjustable stand, nano-texture, etc).
An iMac with 30" display would be beautiful. But Apple has double-downed on computers w/o displays (Mini, Studio). So no real reason not to buy a nice monitor to use for years to come, and swap out the little computer that plugs into it. Too bad we have to have all those cables again.
IT departments LOVE iMacs with wired keyboard / mouse. So many fewer service calls and moving them is a breeze. Even for a home user it's hard to get much cleaner than an iMac with wireless keyboard/mouse, and you can sell and upgrade every 3 years or so and they typically depreciate no more than $120/year for the low-mid range models.
Environmental? If you're talking about 'e-waste,' I don't think most buying customers care enough to make that a serious concern, and the main 'green' Apple seems concerned with is the kind in wallets. Seems like mostly a non-issue in whether or not to produce one.
Now if you're arguing against all-in-ones due to throwing away the display every time you upgrade the main computer, I agree that's a very legitimate point...but it didn't keep people from buying lots of iMacs.
27" iMacs were also popular in homes and offices; I used one for around 7-1/2 years. Some still use them.
Some people are content with 24", but many want 27"+.
I think people need to remember that the Studio Display is a new item that came out only three years ago. The display comes with components like a webcam and an Apple Silicon chip. Will the display last “several generations” of computers, for “years to come?” Maybe. But what happens when the new Studio Display is released in the next year or so with an upgraded panel, upgraded webcam, new chip, and some new upgraded technology we are not thinking about? Will you want to upgrade your $1,500+ display as well after three or four years? I am not convinced that the 2022 Studio Display is an item people are going to want to run for 7-10 years like many people are implying. I can easily see people wanting to upgrade their Studio Display to the new one, and complaining about low trade in values and such.
I think the next Studio Display may be happier owning for 7-10 years as some of the issues of the Studio Display get refined/ironed out.
Like many, I also wish Apple released some more basic monitors - multiple sizes (24 to 32 inches), maybe without the webcam, so people can be comfortable with it as a display and get in at a lower price.
I think the next Studio Display may be happier owning for 7-10 years as some of the issues of the Studio Display get refined/ironed out.
Like many, I also wish Apple released some more basic monitors - multiple sizes (24 to 32 inches), maybe without the webcam, so people can be comfortable with it as a display and get in at a lower price.
I like that color of that proposed iMac.
In his Power On newsletter today, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman briefly touched on the future of the Pro Display XDR and a larger iMac.
This comes amid rumors of a new Studio Display with mini-LED backlighting launching by 2026.
Below, we recap the latest rumors.
Pro Display XDR 2
Released in December 2019, the Pro Display XDR features a 32-inch screen with LED backlighting, 6K resolution, a 60Hz refresh rate, P3 wide color, up to 1,600 nits of brightness, a Thunderbolt 3 port, and three USB-C ports. In the U.S., the Pro Display XDR starts at $4,999, while the optional Pro Stand costs $999 extra.
Gurman today said a new Pro Display XDR is currently "less of a priority for Apple" as an expensive, niche product.
In 2022, he said that Apple was working on an updated version of the Pro Display XDR with an Apple silicon chip, but it is unclear if that remains the company's plan as of today. In Apple's Studio Display, an A13 Bionic chip powers features such as Center Stage camera framing for video calls, spatial audio, and Siri voice commands.
While no other features have been rumored for the next Pro Display XDR, customers are hopeful for a camera, speakers, and a higher refresh rate.
Larger iMac
It has been nearly three years since Apple discontinued the 27-inch iMac, as part of its move away from Intel processors. Since then, the 24-inch iMac has been Apple's only all-in-one desktop computer, with no larger model available.
Will a larger iMac ever make a comeback? Gurman today merely said that Apple will "probably eventually get around" to it.
It might not be another 27-inch iMac, specifically, though.
In November 2023, Apple announced that it had no plans to release a new version of the 27-inch iMac with an Apple silicon chip at that time. Instead, Apple recommended pairing its standalone Studio Display with a Mac Studio or Mac mini.
But an even larger iMac could materialize one day.
In late 2023, both Gurman and Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said Apple was developing a 32-inch iMac for release in late 2024 or in 2025. Kuo said the larger iMac's screen would feature mini-LED backlighting, which would allow for increased brightness, higher contrast ratio, and other benefits compared to LCD technology.
The late 2024 window has now passed, but a 2025 launch is still on the table, perhaps. Gurman's latest update on the larger iMac is vague, though.
Article Link: Pro Display XDR 2 and Larger iMac: Here's What the Latest Rumors Say
Yes but Apple isn't in the monitor business and isn't concerned with moving lots of units with low margins. They don't have a concern with moving lots of those monitors. Pro display XDR was a halo product to accompany the 2019 Mac Pro to get headlines along with a $1000 stand. These products were water cooler talk type of devices that people who had no intent on buying talked about. Apple loves and has a long history of showing off high end niche gear to masses who they are not aimed at so the stories get picked up all over the place.
Apple unveils $5,999 Mac Pro computer aimed at professionals
With prices starting at $5,999, the new Mac Pro will rank as one of Apple’s most expensive – and powerful -- pieces of hardware when it goes on-sale this fall.
Including a camera and speakers into a professional-grade display is an illogical idea. Professional-grade products are meant to provide the highest level of funcitonality. The screen of a professional display, such as that on the current Pro Display XDR, is in the category of screens that provide the highest level of funcitonality in terms of color accuracy and picture quality. Built-in cameras and built-in speakers are never professional-grade, and in fact are even lower quality than most consumer-grade external cameras and external speakers.
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I am much happier with the Mac mini/studio and studio display combo. This way the computer can be replaced while the displays get a second life.
Many of us agree. The work, heavy use and enthusiast Apple user base surely is a huge percentage of this site’s membership. This is the crew that will replace a mini or Mac Studio like it’s nothing. Using any yardstick, the dumb terminal monitor is much preferred due to cost, choice, efficiency, and longevity.
Sure, they aren’t just in the monitor business and they had been fully out of that business but in 2019 they got back in. Regardless, having good monitors adds value to their MacBooks and others in the Mac line. I don’t think that Apple is missing any margin on the Studio Display and I doubt that their margin on a cheaper XDR would fall below their typical margin once they ramped up production.Yes but Apple isn't in the monitor business and isn't concerned with moving lots of units with low margins. They don't have a concern with moving lots of those monitors. Pro display XDR was a halo product to accompany the 2019 Mac Pro to get headlines along with a $1000 stand. These products were water cooler talk type of devices that people who had no intent on buying talked about. Apple loves and has a long history of showing off high end niche gear to masses who they are not aimed at so the stories get picked up all over the place.
Apple unveils $5,999 Mac Pro computer aimed at professionals
With prices starting at $5,999, the new Mac Pro will rank as one of Apple’s most expensive – and powerful -- pieces of hardware when it goes on-sale this fall.www.foxbusiness.com
It seems to boil down to Apple’s current thinking partly being that if you want a lower-cost Mac with a display built in, buy the 24 inch iMac, and if you want a larger display, buy the separate components and pay more. But that would be nicer to swallow if Apple were to reduce the price of the Studio Display so that pairing it with a Mac mini wasn’t a minimum of $900 more (at list prices) than buying a new 24 inch iMac. Maybe a lower price for a Studio Display would be more appealing for Apple if they did it as part of a bundle deal for people buying a Mac mini or a Mac Studio at the same time.
I understand the appeal of a 27 inch or larger all-in-one iMac, but pairing a Mac mini or Mac Studio with a Studio Display makes more sense, for more people, given that many people criticize Apple for making the older 27 inch iMacs essentially obsolete, and therefore suitable (in some people’s estimation) only for throwing away (until 2017’s iMac Pro) by not allowing them to natively run versions of macOS beyond 10.13, 10.15, Big Sur, Monterey, or Ventura (depending on the age of the model), and not allowing iMacs past the Late 2014 model to be easily used as external displays in Target Display Mode. Keeping the Mac separate from the monitor allows you to bypass those kinds of decisions by Apple, and instead upgrade either one separately as new models come out, without “trashing” an entire all-in-one iMac.
I understand the appeal of a 27 inch or larger all-in-one iMac, but pairing a Mac mini or Mac Studio with a Studio Display makes more sense, for more people, given that many people criticize Apple for making the older 27 inch iMacs essentially obsolete, and therefore suitable (in some people’s estimation) only for throwing away (until 2017’s iMac Pro) by not allowing them to natively run versions of macOS beyond 10.13, 10.15, Big Sur, Monterey, or Ventura (depending on the age of the model), and not allowing iMacs past the Late 2014 model to be easily used as external displays in Target Display Mode. Keeping the Mac separate from the monitor allows you to bypass those kinds of decisions by Apple, and instead upgrade either one separately as new models come out, without “trashing” an entire all-in-one iMac.
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It wont happen anytime soon with the current limitations and prices of that kind of of display technology. It would need to be 6k minimum to be retina. Apple are not going to release a display without anything lower.
27" iMac would be do-able, but not worth it unless it was a $5000+ pro-max spec machine. Sure folk liked the Pro iMac (stopgap) but the Studio/Mini Pro + ASD combo makes far more sense these days for the type of customers that the iMac Pro catered to.
Apple could easily make tons of new sales dropping the price of the ASD and XDR. I would buy two XDRs if the nano option was less than $2.5k with the damn stand. This is a 6 year old tech and I’m sure Apple would still make a solid profit from it.
I can’t wait to see the new LG ultrafine 6k monitor announced at CES.
I can’t wait to see the new LG ultrafine 6k monitor announced at CES.
Just back from a Cisco conference, saw quite a few 27” imacs out on the floor. In dire need of siliconisation. As is mine. It’s time Apple, already should have been ages ago.
The amount of hours i have spent trying to find a monitor for a mini. It should not be about compronise.
The amount of hours i have spent trying to find a monitor for a mini. It should not be about compronise.
Couldn’t wait to see Pro Stand 2
In his Power On newsletter today, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman briefly touched on the future of the Pro Display XDR and a larger iMac.
This comes amid rumors of a new Studio Display with mini-LED backlighting launching by 2026.
Below, we recap the latest rumors.
Pro Display XDR 2
Released in December 2019, the Pro Display XDR features a 32-inch screen with LED backlighting, 6K resolution, a 60Hz refresh rate, P3 wide color, up to 1,600 nits of brightness, a Thunderbolt 3 port, and three USB-C ports. In the U.S., the Pro Display XDR starts at $4,999, while the optional Pro Stand costs $999 extra.
Gurman today said a new Pro Display XDR is currently "less of a priority for Apple" as an expensive, niche product.
In 2022, he said that Apple was working on an updated version of the Pro Display XDR with an Apple silicon chip, but it is unclear if that remains the company's plan as of today. In Apple's Studio Display, an A13 Bionic chip powers features such as Center Stage camera framing for video calls, spatial audio, and Siri voice commands.
While no other features have been rumored for the next Pro Display XDR, customers are hopeful for a camera, speakers, and a higher refresh rate.
Larger iMac
It has been nearly three years since Apple discontinued the 27-inch iMac, as part of its move away from Intel processors. Since then, the 24-inch iMac has been Apple's only all-in-one desktop computer, with no larger model available.
Will a larger iMac ever make a comeback? Gurman today merely said that Apple will "probably eventually get around" to it.
It might not be another 27-inch iMac, specifically, though.
In November 2023, Apple announced that it had no plans to release a new version of the 27-inch iMac with an Apple silicon chip at that time. Instead, Apple recommended pairing its standalone Studio Display with a Mac Studio or Mac mini.
But an even larger iMac could materialize one day.
In late 2023, both Gurman and Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said Apple was developing a 32-inch iMac for release in late 2024 or in 2025. Kuo said the larger iMac's screen would feature mini-LED backlighting, which would allow for increased brightness, higher contrast ratio, and other benefits compared to LCD technology.
The late 2024 window has now passed, but a 2025 launch is still on the table, perhaps. Gurman's latest update on the larger iMac is vague, though.
Article Link: Pro Display XDR 2 and Larger iMac: Here's What the Latest Rumors Say
The iMac needs to be 32"... the 27" was really big when 24" was a bigger display, and most folks are running between 24", 27" and 32" now. Kick it off with an M4 Pro and 16GB RAM and you've got a winner. In terms of display, I would rather have it be 4K at 120Hz than some ridiculous ppi and 60Hz.
It garnered your click and your comment. That’s engagement which equals money.
It’s worth it to them.
Right now, no one else can offer what the ASD offers for a lower price (Samsung comes close).
When was the last time Apple ever tried competing against manufacturers with price drops?
Realistically anyone can sell a decent product in bigger numbers at a lower profit margin - historically, that’s simply not Apple. I, for one cannot see that changing.
Yep. Well, it is what it is. My aim now is the upcoming LG 6K. Hopefully, the price is right.