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Ditto on this, its just a cosmetic Open Firmware glitch, PCIe G5s do the same thing interestingly enough

also worth noting the DDR2 on the DLSD, was nothing but a marketing thing

it runs at 333Mhz regardless of what you put in the slots (well just whatever double the FSB is at) and has no speed advantage over regular DDR in this case, especially given the very slow by 2005 FSB of the PowerPC G4 CPU

I was wondering why my (downclocked) PC2-5300 RAM was running at 333MHz as opposed to 400...
 
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I was wondering why my (downclocked) PC2-5300 RAM was running at 333MHz as opposed to 400...

apart from me saying so how do you know that? PC3200 is DDR 400 (PC4200 being DDR 533, and PC5300 being DDR 667)

just saying theres no way to tell in a DLSD that the RAM is running at 333Mhz without knowing how the system architecture works
 
If I can simply offer some practical advice... these CPU's are already well over a decade old, and overclocking them will only shorten whatever life is left in them.

Back to the overclocking talk...
 
Back to the overclocking talk...
I like how this is going without me posting anything :) Anyway i was browsing thru the schematics of the powerbook and indeed the CPU clock is made from the bus clock. The CPU PLLs are set from default to 10x so the default so when the bus clock is set to the default 167MHz then the CPU is 1,67GHz, but now when I have 194MHz bus the CPU clock is 1,94GHz. At least thats what the datasheet is saying. And I have it like this for a week at least and its stable, gaming, watching movies, streaming(youtube), fans kick in a little earlier but not much so the thermals cant be that bad, but this makes me wanna install g4fancontrol app and tweak the fan curves, or maybe lower the voltage by a smal portion.

EDIT: I also noticed how the whole schematics tlaks also about the A8 CPU and the PLLs have settings that works only with the A8 CPU, so if I want to swap in the A8 CPU all I need is the patch for the Open Firmware and the OS X.
 
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I like how this is going without me posting anything :) Anyway i was browsing thru the schematics of the powerbook and indeed the CPU clock is made from the bus clock. The CPU PLLs are set from default to 10x so the default so when the bus clock is set to the default 167MHz then the CPU is 1,67GHz, but now when I have 194MHz bus the CPU clock is 1,94GHz. At least thats what the datasheet is saying. And I have it like this for a week at least and its stable, gaming, watching movies, streaming(youtube), fans kick in a little earlier but not much so the thermals cant be that bad, but this makes me wanna install g4fancontrol app and tweak the fan curves, or maybe lower the voltage by a smal portion.

EDIT: I also noticed how the whole schematics tlaks also about the A8 CPU and the PLLs have settings that works only with the A8 CPU, so if I want to swap in the A8 CPU all I need is the patch for the Open Firmware and the OS X.

given a few things, I do wonder if the DLSDs BootROM natively supports the 7448 if you where to solder one one, only one way to find out really!

only thing is it's quite a bit effort if it does not work, I know daystar did use some firmware patches on their other CPU upgrade services (the 1.92Ghz iMac G4 for example) I wonder if its worth contacting whats left of daystar or someone who worked there and see if they still have all their firmware patches on hand?
 
given a few things, I do wonder if the DLSDs BootROM natively supports the 7448 if you where to solder one one, only one way to find out really!

only thing is it's quite a bit effort if it does not work, I know daystar did use some firmware patches on their other CPU upgrade services (the 1.92Ghz iMac G4 for example) I wonder if its worth contacting whats left of daystar or someone who worked there and see if they still have all their firmware patches on hand?

I have the daystar patch downloaded but as I realised all the patches are for OF up to 4.7 and I have 4.9... It was discused somewhere on this forum that all the patches are just till OF 4.7 so I am stuck, also and dont want to try to place the A8 somewhere where it doesnt boot anymore, I have just this machine but I am searching for the quad G5 powermac but i dont have any luck... i just found this but the guy doesnt know what version or config it is.
 
Neither of those are Quads :(
Yeah, but i just found SP or DP but more of the DP, but not much... I am stuck with testing the PowerBook as my manager decided to walk around this place for a whole day... BTW Which PowerMac G5 is capable of playing 1080p ? Just the quads or the duals are also capable of doing it?
 
When will you be able to verify the clock increase? Looking at the Xbench results, specifically the CPU test only, that seems to be the normal variance between machines of the same speed?
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BTW Which PowerMac G5 is capable of playing 1080p ? Just the quads or the duals are also capable of doing it?

Duals certainly can - could play 1080P on my G5 iMac too.
 
I am just asking because if I cant find a quad i will buy the newest dual i can find and it will be nice to have the optio to connect it to my giant plasma TV. And can it also play 1080p from the internet? (online movie, youtube..) Or just play 1080p from a file?
 
I am just asking because if I cant find a quad i will buy the newest dual i can find and it will be nice to have the optio to connect it to my giant plasma TV. And can it also play 1080p from the internet? (online movie, youtube..) Or just play 1080p from a file?

I wouldn't specifically buy any G5 for 1080P viewing as there are better and cheaper alternatives but my Quad used to play 1080P Youtube with ease when it was still Flash based:


Since the shift to HTML5 I no longer have a G5 but suspect only the Quad can play 1080P Youtube as HTML5 is more demanding. With regard to other online video, if it's HTML5 the same applies plus of course, platforms like Netflix don't work on PPC.
 
apart from me saying so how do you know that? PC3200 is DDR 400 (PC4200 being DDR 533, and PC5300 being DDR 667)

just saying theres no way to tell in a DLSD that the RAM is running at 333Mhz without knowing how the system architecture works

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My apologies, I misremembered. My PC2-5300 memory (from an '07 MacBook Pro) appears to be running as PC2-3200 at 288MHz.

The system should be downclocking memory only to its maximum limit, should it not? It does not seem to be doing this.
 
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To all of you who is interested in numbers from benchmarks, Im including score from geekbench.

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And here is my RAM setup.

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It needs to be both 4200 to get the best score as it was already said. But already its not a bad score I think. I really need something to show the cpu clock or I will get insane. Also in the schematics and in the Open Firmare I noticed how it is saying about cpu0 and cpu1. Thats odd on a single core single cpu notebook.
 
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To all of you who is interested in numbers from benchmarks, Im including score from geekbench.

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And here is my RAM setup.

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It needs to be both 4200 to get the best score as it was already said. But already its not a bad score I think. I really need something to show the cpu clock or I will get insane. Also in the schematics and in the Open Firmare I noticed how it is saying about cpu0 and cpu1. Thats odd on a single core single cpu notebook.

looks reasonable enough to be running at 1.94Ghz, Nice work :)

once you have verify the CPU/Bus speed using the tool I mentioned, it would not be very hard to knock up an NVRAMRC script to fix the fact OF does not report the change in speed :)
 
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My apologies, I misremembered. My PC2-5300 memory (from an '07 MacBook Pro) appears to be running as PC2-3200 at 288MHz.

The system should be downclocking memory only to its maximum limit, should it not? It does not seem to be doing this.


My DLSD showed a 1GB stick of PC2-4200 running as 3200-288.

I just this day installed one 2GB stick PC2-4200 and profiler shows it as 4200-444
 
My DLSD showed a 1GB stick of PC2-4200 running as 3200-288.

I just this day installed one 2GB stick PC2-4200 and profiler shows it as 4200-444

Now that is interesting.

Certainly not expected behavior.
 
My DLSD showed a 1GB stick of PC2-4200 running as 3200-288.

I just this day installed one 2GB stick PC2-4200 and profiler shows it as 4200-444
When I was searching for some info abot the dlsd before I bought it, some websites stated that the PoweBook G4 is picky when it comes to ram modules. Maybe thats what they ment.
 
For someone who is interested in temps: under full load the temp were maxing at 67-69. But how often someone gets under continuous full load? So I think no problem here. I dont know when I will get to tune the PowerBook more, I am making a Hackintosh for my girlfriend and at work they decided to give me a ton of faulty motherboards so no time for me to do my own stuff.
 
You'd be surprised. :D When I'm actively using TFF on my DLSD, it spends a lot of time at full tilt. :p
Yeah, I noticed that the TFF likes using a lot of cpu. I use webkit, it doesnt use that much of the cpu.
 
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