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ryanw said:
Ya know, I love the U.S's education system and all the 'emotion' that revolves(?) around being a patriot and all the other flag-waving stuff, but I am definitely losing confidence in The U.S. school system's ability to "deliver". Sure, we have the hottest universities around at the time of school rankings, but by the time students are able to graduate it's already obvious they haven't mastered basic spelling.
joke. it's just a joke.
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And I'll give you credit for evolves, since it's plausible that is in fact what you meant.
uh-oh
Based on this article, it's making me feel uneasy about purchasing any G5 because by the time September rolls around (next month), it's only about 4 months until another updated is expected. Three months waiting (or more) to only have the "hot product" for four months. I suppose one might argue that next January, this shortage in inventory might happen again, but by then, hopefully, IBM will have "mastered" the 90nm fabrication process.
I'm eyeing G5's only, because that's my next purchase.
Based on this article, it's making me feel uneasy about purchasing any G5 because by the time September rolls around (next month), it's only about 4 months until another updated is expected. Three months waiting (or more) to only have the "hot product" for four months. I suppose one might argue that next January, this shortage in inventory might happen again, but by then, hopefully, IBM will have "mastered" the 90nm fabrication process.
I'm eyeing G5's only, because that's my next purchase.
Are they shipping anything?
Just got this email from Apple.
To Our Valued Apple Customer:
Thank you for ordering the new Counting Crows single from the iTunes Music Store! In keeping with established Apple Computer company policy, your shipment has been delayed.
The demand for this item has been incredible. We are shipping them as quickly as possible, but cannot meet the ship date we previously estimated for you. We now expect to ship your song on or before September 2nd.
Please rest assured that we fulfill all orders in the order they are received. If we do not hear from you prior to shipment, we will assume the revised date is acceptable, and will ship your order. We will notify you if there are any changes to the revised ship date. In the mean time, you might be interested in the new Brittany Spears single. As of this writing, demand has not been as high and we should be able to ship this immediately.
We appreciate your patience and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this delay has caused you. Thank you for your interest in Apple products!
Sincerely,
**The iTunes Music Store Team
Just got this email from Apple.
To Our Valued Apple Customer:
Thank you for ordering the new Counting Crows single from the iTunes Music Store! In keeping with established Apple Computer company policy, your shipment has been delayed.
The demand for this item has been incredible. We are shipping them as quickly as possible, but cannot meet the ship date we previously estimated for you. We now expect to ship your song on or before September 2nd.
Please rest assured that we fulfill all orders in the order they are received. If we do not hear from you prior to shipment, we will assume the revised date is acceptable, and will ship your order. We will notify you if there are any changes to the revised ship date. In the mean time, you might be interested in the new Brittany Spears single. As of this writing, demand has not been as high and we should be able to ship this immediately.
We appreciate your patience and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this delay has caused you. Thank you for your interest in Apple products!
Sincerely,
**The iTunes Music Store Team
Hula Hoops are giving away 2,000 iPod Minis over here as part of a larger giveaway - so evidently they couldn't be in too short supply..
Sun Baked said:
ALL procs now shipping are 90nm. 130nm are not even being made anymore.
Sun Baked said:
not sure if that's true. I'll have to find out.
Apple can't do anything right these days. The inability to ship products in the quantities there is demand for ultimately hurts their profits, and there is at least 1 major product every quarter that is in short supply. Now what is it, like 5, including their highest margin products. Maybe it's time for Steve to step aside. He's running the company into the ground.
Not everything that goes worn with a company is the CEO's fault. It may be the Operations or Manufacturing VP/Director who is at fault. Or it may really be out of Apple's hands.rog said:
In the case of thee iPod mini, it was Hitachi and the supply of the 4GB microdrives.
In the case of G5 machines, IBM had some fault there.
And in the case of the iMac, someone goofed and they didn't have the new machine ready to go when they ran out of inventory on the current(old) iMac line.
And as for the Aitrport Express, they had a super high demand on those as well. This falls under marketing/product planning.
So, blame the right people for the product shortfalls.
Apple can't do anything right?
Look at one major reason for delays in deliveries: very high demand.
Maybe you can blame Steve for making products that have too high a demand - replace him with someone who wants dull products, just like you get at Dull.
There is also a limitation on production facilities for a lot of products, like Airport Express. Could have helped if it was for Mac users only - this opening up Mac products to the masses of PC users does slow our deliveries down some. Maybe a CEO who gets rid of that PC market revenues? Sound good to you?
Another reason is Apple's push for some leading edge technologies, like the iPod mini HD or the 90nm G5. Should he have been safe (like the PC world) and stuck with the "safe" G4?
And, oh Lord, there is a new G5 iMac due out very soon. Apple is probably going to come out with some fantastic design that generates more demand that IBM can deliver chips for. If Apple would just stop designing products that are so cool supply & demand would be in a better balance. Maybe something like a Dull.
From where I sit as a Mac user and a VERY small shareholder, I believe that Apple is exploding with innovation right now. They will stay on the leading edge of technology, come out with products that excite people and, yet again, show the PC industry how to do it. As a small shareholder this makes me happy. As a Mac user I have learned to order very fast when something I want is announced - within hours of the announcement if possible.
Look at one major reason for delays in deliveries: very high demand.
Maybe you can blame Steve for making products that have too high a demand - replace him with someone who wants dull products, just like you get at Dull.
There is also a limitation on production facilities for a lot of products, like Airport Express. Could have helped if it was for Mac users only - this opening up Mac products to the masses of PC users does slow our deliveries down some. Maybe a CEO who gets rid of that PC market revenues? Sound good to you?
Another reason is Apple's push for some leading edge technologies, like the iPod mini HD or the 90nm G5. Should he have been safe (like the PC world) and stuck with the "safe" G4?
And, oh Lord, there is a new G5 iMac due out very soon. Apple is probably going to come out with some fantastic design that generates more demand that IBM can deliver chips for. If Apple would just stop designing products that are so cool supply & demand would be in a better balance. Maybe something like a Dull.
From where I sit as a Mac user and a VERY small shareholder, I believe that Apple is exploding with innovation right now. They will stay on the leading edge of technology, come out with products that excite people and, yet again, show the PC industry how to do it. As a small shareholder this makes me happy. As a Mac user I have learned to order very fast when something I want is announced - within hours of the announcement if possible.
rog said:
I just don't think that we can blame Apple for all of these delays. Definitely we shouldn't go after Steve, who is recovering from serious cancer surgery. From what I have heard it's suppliers like IBM that are having difficulty filling demand. It seems that some of the other chips are also not able to fill demand.
Well, my iSight that had been on backorder for 4 weeks, and scheduled to ship on or before August 26, shipped today.
So, what does that mean?
Either I got a new batch of old iSights and I should return it shortly or its not being slated to immediate update.
I prdered from Apple directly.
So, what does that mean?
Either I got a new batch of old iSights and I should return it shortly or its not being slated to immediate update.
I prdered from Apple directly.
That be the 130nm PPC970.ccroo said:
Apple shipped the first 1.8/2.0GHz Rev B machines with the 130nm CPUs, because that's all they had in the volume they needed at the time.
There have been some recent (August) reports of the newest machines finally getting the 90nm.
No sales tax for me
I ordered from the Apple site last Friday in the midst of our state sales tax holiday and Apple initially charged me sales tax, then refunded it back to me--thus no sales tax for me.
If they'd not honored our tax holiday, I'd have just driven up to Charlotte, NC to the Apple store there and partaken of their sales tax holiday.
On a side note, my Studio Display arrived today, but still no G5. The Apple site still says it'll be shipping on Tuesday, 8/17 so I'm hoping I'll have it by next Thursday.
tunanut said:not that it's germain, but why would anyone order a big ticket (g5 and montior) from apple direct and pay tax? gotta love new hampshire. saved me 240+ clams!
I ordered from the Apple site last Friday in the midst of our state sales tax holiday and Apple initially charged me sales tax, then refunded it back to me--thus no sales tax for me.
If they'd not honored our tax holiday, I'd have just driven up to Charlotte, NC to the Apple store there and partaken of their sales tax holiday.
On a side note, my Studio Display arrived today, but still no G5. The Apple site still says it'll be shipping on Tuesday, 8/17 so I'm hoping I'll have it by next Thursday.
ccroo said:
That my friend is called a "processor version number" or PVR. Tomorrow, I'll see what chip rev that equates to.
Sun Baked said:
Let me tell you something... and your going to have to trust me on this.
the "new" 90 nm 970's shipping right now are NOT radically different from the original 970. The only addition was something called PowerTune (there was even a rumor thread about that on this site). PowerTune will allow the 970 to be used in lower power boxes, that's it. Actually, it can hurt performance due to the overhead of switching frequencies back an forth, depending on the situation. The other problem is that the 90nm version is a smaller die, which is harder to cool. Hence, the cooling system might be bigger for the newer procs, but I'm not sure about that. There are some bug fixes in the 90nm products, but nothing that will make the system more stable. There is a significant change to the chipset, but I can't talk about that.
We want the new news...myapplseedshurt said:Let me tell you something... and your going to have to trust me on this.
the "new" 90 nm 970's shipping right now are NOT radically different from the original 970. The only addition was something called PowerTune (there was even a rumor thread about that on this site). PowerTune will allow the 970 to be used in lower power boxes, that's it. Actually, it can hurt performance due to the overhead of switching frequencies back an forth, depending on the situation. The other problem is that the 90nm version is a smaller die, which is harder to cool. Hence, the cooling system might be bigger for the newer procs, but I'm not sure about that. There are some bug fixes in the 90nm products, but nothing that will make the system more stable. There is a significant change to the chipset, but I can't talk about that.
Everybody saw the stuff on PowerTune, and there were some of us wondering if Apple would ever implement it -- considering there are some interesting new dynamic thread balancing features and a dynamic clock-gating circuits in the Power5 -- which will hopefully find it's way into the GR-UL.
Also we want to know about the U3-Lite, what new features are in the Memory Controller replacing the U3H in the PowerMac9,1 and if there is a change in the HT PCI-X Tunnel.
Another point on Apple being conservative on shipping dates. I had to order a 23" display for a major project that needed more screen space than I have on my 15" PB. Was old 3 - 5 days to ship so I added $30 for overnight shipping when I ordered this afternoon. Just got an e-mail saying it had been shipped. Will be on my desk within 18 hours of calling in the order!
Also go word that the shipping time for the AirPort Express has gone down. If anyone wants one NOW is the time to order fast. The more people that learn about it the longer the wait in the future.
Also go word that the shipping time for the AirPort Express has gone down. If anyone wants one NOW is the time to order fast. The more people that learn about it the longer the wait in the future.
Apple will sell them no matter what they charge, hell, people were still paying top $$$ for the G4 iMac (old, expensive piece of stupidly out dated technology) up until a couple of months ago. Some people are just so in love with the Apple brand that they can't see past it, and will buy no matter what they are actually going to get for their money.Bear said:
edesignuk said:
Since I am replacing Dulls at work (got a PB) and at home (G5 iMac ordered on Day 1) I can assure you I am ready to pay top dollar. I'm willing because I have that in the Dull world you get problems that cost you more that the "extra" you pay for a Mac. Try having data corrupted and have to reformat and reinstall Windows - then go through all your data (accounting programs for 2 companies) to ensure that there are no problems. Once is enough to more than pay that "extra" for a Mac.
Time is money, especially when you own small one man companies like I do. Problems with PC cost me far more than a Mac ever will - even if I went with a 2.5 PM. What I get for my money is something that works day in and day out, year end and year out. People want to buy a Dull because it's cheaper (until they move you up with "enhancements) then let them have at it. I may be in love with the Apple brand, but I'm far more in love with the stability it brings me in my work.
Oh, and by the way, this afternoon I ordered a 23" display from Apple today for a huge project that is too big for by 15" screen alone - and it will be on my desk in the morning.
We have a couple of thousand "Dulls" at work (as well as another few thousand HP/Compaq). We have very few problems with Windows (XP Pro), our main support issues are application specific, and we have very few hardware failures.kenaustus said: