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Promising iPad Apps: Mixr and iMockups
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Love the Dj app but can you...
....hook up an external HD to store your tracks? If not, it'll just be a gimmick as the iPad's internal HD is too small to hold a lot of hi quality tracks. This maybe fine at a party through your mates HiFi playing MP3s but hook it up to a club sound system and it'll sound awful. You need at the very least mp3 320 as a bare minimum. AIFF is best wherever possible. Looking forward to it very much.
Be great to have an iPhone version!
....hook up an external HD to store your tracks? If not, it'll just be a gimmick as the iPad's internal HD is too small to hold a lot of hi quality tracks. This maybe fine at a party through your mates HiFi playing MP3s but hook it up to a club sound system and it'll sound awful. You need at the very least mp3 320 as a bare minimum. AIFF is best wherever possible. Looking forward to it very much.
Be great to have an iPhone version!
I have a mockup program like this on my mac (Balsamiq Mockups). It is fast to use but involves a ton of click & drag. With this you will touch and drag, but that is the idea. It is supposed to emulate creating a paper mockup (Which is a pain) So the idea of touch fits it perfectly. The mouse in this case is a compromise in terms of input.
I think what people are going to find is that using your hands for touch input is just intuitive. It eliminates one layer of abstraction from the computer (the mouse).
Thanks. IOIIOOO mentioned this earlier in the thread. That's pretty much what I was looking for, except that it has limitations as an Air application that are a little disappointing.
Unfortunately, OminGraffle looks like a waste of my time.
~ CB
Not in love with the ipad yet, I think it is a few revisions short of being a great device, I think its silly you have to buy all the accessories for it, and the apps are going to be mainly games and fun toys.
One thing as a recreational DJ, I can see playing with this app for fun at the most, most DJ's need a program that doesnt crash, and we dont know how this app is going to hold up running for hours, also what kind of audio are you going to get out of the ipad, in the graphics dept I dont know too many artists that want to throw away a pen and start fingerpainting, I guess for quick sketch ideas on the go maybe.. another thing why wouldnt dj's spend a couple hundred more and get a 13" macbook that will handle the real pro dj software, youd need the high end 64gb version which comes in at around 700. also I know alot of dj's that hook up external drives, ipods etc to get music from, no option as of yet for the ipod.
The ipad is at best an executive toy/ebook reader and can come in handy for students ie medical interns, and similar jobs that the the touch apps have proven to work well. Its a device that alot of people will own between the desktop and laptop where they just dont want to carry around a whole lot of stuff. But most professionals will not use this solely as their device for work.
As a photographer as well, I can see the ipad being useful to show clients photos etc.. but doesnt mean im going to start using photoshop mobile for my workflow..
One thing as a recreational DJ, I can see playing with this app for fun at the most, most DJ's need a program that doesnt crash, and we dont know how this app is going to hold up running for hours, also what kind of audio are you going to get out of the ipad, in the graphics dept I dont know too many artists that want to throw away a pen and start fingerpainting, I guess for quick sketch ideas on the go maybe.. another thing why wouldnt dj's spend a couple hundred more and get a 13" macbook that will handle the real pro dj software, youd need the high end 64gb version which comes in at around 700. also I know alot of dj's that hook up external drives, ipods etc to get music from, no option as of yet for the ipod.
The ipad is at best an executive toy/ebook reader and can come in handy for students ie medical interns, and similar jobs that the the touch apps have proven to work well. Its a device that alot of people will own between the desktop and laptop where they just dont want to carry around a whole lot of stuff. But most professionals will not use this solely as their device for work.
As a photographer as well, I can see the ipad being useful to show clients photos etc.. but doesnt mean im going to start using photoshop mobile for my workflow..
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Omnigraffle does a great job with mockups for OSX, iPhone, iPad, Web. If you go to: www.graffletopia.com you can get all of these mockup stencils for free. And Omnigraffle is on OSX and will be on the iPad shortly.
This. People who have never touched an actual turntable will probably think that app is awesome, and i kinda think its pretty cool too, but its little more than a toy. Nobody would even think about using it for a serious gig.
It depends what you class as 'serious' I guess, on the other hand you probably are better off with a MacBook Pro, USB Turntable interface thing, and another HDD for all your music.
Something like this:
Exactly. The iPad will be an outstanding device for so many walks of life and professional fields, but I don't see DJing being one of them unless some serious third-party hardware is released. I agree that spending a couple hundred more on a MacBook would make a lot more sense.
What People Want to Hear
I'm not in the sound business, but I'm in the people business. I play, record and listen to a lot of music. I want to provide music people want to hear. I found this interesting:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=25288
It seems the low-quality mp3s are starting to become the preferred sound...it's a matter of what we want, not what someone says is the "best experience for us". Which is why Blu-Ray is still not catching on and DVDs, digital delivery is doing just fine.
I'm not in the sound business, but I'm in the people business. I play, record and listen to a lot of music. I want to provide music people want to hear. I found this interesting:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=25288
It seems the low-quality mp3s are starting to become the preferred sound...it's a matter of what we want, not what someone says is the "best experience for us". Which is why Blu-Ray is still not catching on and DVDs, digital delivery is doing just fine.
I agree, touch seems a great way to make a mockup. My problem, though, is ONLY being able to edit that particular document on an iPad. With no equivalent desktop version of iMockups (or a way to export to a format that a desktop mockup program can edit), it forces me to only ever be able to work on those mockups using the iPad.
I'm not sure if you've tested this app yet, but how do you know what it does or doesn't do? The resolution or quality of the screen hasn't been thoroughly reviewed for you to determine that the nudge/pitch shifting wont be accurate. Have you actually spoken to the developer, or even watched any previews/teasers for it beyond the image on the article?
Where do you really think this is positioned in terms of "professional"? Somewhere between DJ Hero and a real set? True, it cannot replace a physical DJ setup, but that's no different than comparing a physical keyboard to the virtual one we're so used to on the iPhone - it isn't meant to be a replacement, more like an extension (some of us can type pretty fast on a virtual one, but a real one will almost always be more comfortable and quicker to use). This could provide mobility to an up and coming DJ, or an app that a professional DJ could fire up and run through inspirations he just came across. When there is an actual product that you can pass judgement on, then by all means fire away. But until then, why not support any developer in their efforts? This isn't a fart app, this is a real effort to deliver something of quality. And a lot of people agree that it could be promising.
I wouldn't be too worried about that in the long run. The iPad and mockups is perfect fit, so someone is likely to make a functional implementation sooner or later.
But you're very right, I won't consider using a iPad-only solution. The drawbacks of that seem to outweigh the advantages.
They need to put those turntables in battle mode, nobody who scratches puts the needle in that position
But there are 2 types of DJ's nowadays - the club DJ's who are better off with Serato and a Vestax VCI, and the "IPOD DJ's" who've never touched a 1200 in their life, are more into making fancy slideshows than mixing songs, and get hired to do weddings and private events (and nothing against them, a lot of them do a great job). These "IPOD DJ's" will eat it up
But there are 2 types of DJ's nowadays - the club DJ's who are better off with Serato and a Vestax VCI, and the "IPOD DJ's" who've never touched a 1200 in their life, are more into making fancy slideshows than mixing songs, and get hired to do weddings and private events (and nothing against them, a lot of them do a great job). These "IPOD DJ's" will eat it up
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That app is just a gimmick. I've seen so many apps over the years that claim to be for the professional, but are just rubbish.
I could see dj's using the ipad with the AC-7 Pro app as a controller, but you would still need a laptop to run live anyway.
I'd love to, which is why I bought a Dell Mini 10v and hackintoshed it. The key bit of your question was the "similar capabilities" part. I would never feel safe allowing an iPad to replace a real computer; it's a toy, nothing serious enough to even make posts to a forum. However, I have so much faith in my hackintosh that I had no second thoughts about leaving my MBP at home while I traveled to New York. I'm typing on the hackintosh now, and I feel fine knowing that if there's some task that I'm up against that's even slightly out of the ordinary (e.g. copying a handwritten PDF to a Word document using multitasking) I'll be ready for it.
iPad unleashes imaginations
iPad unleashes imaginations in a way never before possible. It will be an amazing new few years, reminiscent of the early days of the Mac GUI and how that too opened up new possibilities previously never imagined.
iPad unleashes imaginations in a way never before possible. It will be an amazing new few years, reminiscent of the early days of the Mac GUI and how that too opened up new possibilities previously never imagined.
When vinyl was the standard DJs scoffed at CDs
When CDs were the standard DJs scoffed at laptops and iPods
The Mixr app looks pretty rough and short on features. Considering it's a first attempt for a device that isn't even yet released - not exactly a surprise.
We'll see what happens once the iPad's been out for a while.
If anything, I could see it supplementing a laptop based DJ setup, rather than replacing.
When CDs were the standard DJs scoffed at laptops and iPods
The Mixr app looks pretty rough and short on features. Considering it's a first attempt for a device that isn't even yet released - not exactly a surprise.
We'll see what happens once the iPad's been out for a while.
If anything, I could see it supplementing a laptop based DJ setup, rather than replacing.