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Proof that iOS lies to you about your capacity
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This is a misconception. The difference in capacity has nothing to do with formatting (well you might lose a couple KB to the partition table). The capacity difference is purely due to a marketing decision. Manufacturers say 1GB is equal to 1E9 bytes, or 1,000,000,000 bytes. OS' treat 1GB as 1024^3 bytes, or 1,073,741,824 bytes. If you divide your storage capacity (in bytes) by that number, you'll get the reported capacity
And the OP already took that into account. What he didn't consider is how much space the OS takes
felixgun said:
This is a misconception. The difference in capacity has nothing to do with formatting (well you might lose a couple KB to the partition table). The capacity difference is purely due to a marketing decision. Manufacturers say 1GB is equal to 1E9 bytes, or 1,000,000,000 bytes. OS' treat 1GB as 1024^3 bytes, or 1,073,741,824 bytes. If you divide your storage capacity (in bytes) by that number, you'll get the reported capacity
And the OP already took that into account. What he didn't consider is how much space the OS takes
You don't even have your figures right. 16 GB is 14.9 GiB.
Then you have to subtract the system partition, which on the iPhone 4 was 950 MB and which is sure to be bigger on the 4S due to Siri (although without a jailbreak I can't check for myself). Let's assume that's 1.2 GiB; that gets you down to 13.9 GiB.
Finally you have to subtract the file system overhead. I'm not familiar enough with the HFS+ filesystem to calculate it, but I can easily believe it would account for the remaining ~300 MB of missing space.
Simplified technical layout, cheaper to produce. One chip less. Space is luxury in Phone and iPod.
To OP:
There are also log files written over time, dumps from apps which crashed etc. please wipe your device complete and tell us that is free
And thus putting a limit on the amount of space the OS can take up in every future iteration. Or if you put in more than you will ever need for the OS, then you'd be wasting space. Either way, the glass is half empty.
Space. You think apple are really going to try and cram in an extra chip into a device they are painstakingly trying to keep as small as humanly possible?
OMG another one of these threads?
Two things you need to know:
1. Formatting doesn't leave the entire amount available
2. The OS takes up space, and every update that comes out for the OS.
Ok I think the thread can be closed now.
Two things you need to know:
1. Formatting doesn't leave the entire amount available
2. The OS takes up space, and every update that comes out for the OS.
Ok I think the thread can be closed now.
iPhone 4S "16GB" capacity = 16,000,000,000 bytes
16,000,000,000 bytes = 14.9 GiBytes
Settings -> General -> About -> Capacity = 13.6 GB, which I assume is actually GiBytes meaning 14,602,888,806 bytes
Difference = 1,397,111,194 bytes = 1.3 GiBytes
I suspect that the 1.4 billion bytes is used up by the OS.
16,000,000,000 bytes = 14.9 GiBytes
Settings -> General -> About -> Capacity = 13.6 GB, which I assume is actually GiBytes meaning 14,602,888,806 bytes
Difference = 1,397,111,194 bytes = 1.3 GiBytes
I suspect that the 1.4 billion bytes is used up by the OS.
They could integrate iOS memory with the CPU chip, which would be faster. And since the life of iPhone is expected to be only 3 years or so, the capacity required for iOS could be estimated so that future revisions could be made. Just sayin'
It would still be an extra chip and extra cost... and we'd still get the countless threads asking where their space went due to hidden log files and caches.
Why would Apple want to do that? What happens if they underestimate and you're suddenly stuck with a phone that can't be upgraded
Complaining that some of your internal storage is used to store the OS is like complaining you don't get the full capacity of your HDD on a computer due to the operating system taking up several GB of disk space
This is the only point that needs to make. Anyone who cares enough can readily find out this fact before they purchase the device. This shouldn't even be an issue.
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What the firetruck does OP MEAN?
What the firetruck does OP MEAN?
I'm used to it by now, but I think they should also advertise the number of USABLE gigabytes just to make things easier. I mean 64 and 57 is kind of a big difference..
You could have used Google... "original poster" (of the thread)
You could have used Google... "original poster" (of the thread)
So you are also scammed by the car manufacturers, because they don't count the volume of fuel that is in between the fuel tank and the engine...
Proof that iOS lies to you about your capacity
See the following two images:
http://imgur.com/a/mkPFS
In the first image, you can see Xcode - a app made by Apple. It reports my 4S has 14.59GB.
In the second image, you can see iOS settings screen. It reports my 4S has 13.6GB.
Now, there are 3 numbers..
Number 1: 16GB - the number on the packaging, 1000 mb = 1 gb
Number 2: 14.59GB - xcode, this uses 1024 mb = 1gb
Number 3: 13.6GB - iOS, ???
As you can see, iOS clearly is lying about how much data you can store.
See the following two images:
http://imgur.com/a/mkPFS
In the first image, you can see Xcode - a app made by Apple. It reports my 4S has 14.59GB.
In the second image, you can see iOS settings screen. It reports my 4S has 13.6GB.
Now, there are 3 numbers..
Number 1: 16GB - the number on the packaging, 1000 mb = 1 gb
Number 2: 14.59GB - xcode, this uses 1024 mb = 1gb
Number 3: 13.6GB - iOS, ???
As you can see, iOS clearly is lying about how much data you can store.
