ProtonMail Launches Tor Onion Site to Evade State Censorship

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Encrypted email provider ProtonMail has launched its own onion address, allowing users to access the service over the Tor anonymizing network (via TechCrunch).

    The Swiss-based email account provider, which has more than 2 million users, said the measure was aimed at defending against state-sponsored censorship, and pointed to recent moves around the world to block encrypted communications and expand surveillance.


    ProtonMail said it was worried about increased attacks on online privacy, such as encryption messaging app Signal being blocked in Egypt, and the UK passing expansive surveillance legislation which mandates tracking of web activity.

    The service also reported a bump in registrations following President-Elect Donald Trump's election win, with web users said to be seeking a non-U.S. based secure email provider in case of a broad expansion of online surveillance activity.
    ProtonMail can now be reached over the Tor network directly using the onion address https://protonirockerxow.onion. The provider has also posted instructions on how to access the site on iOS devices, although it is currently looking into problems with access via the free Onion Browser app.

    ProtonMail is a free download for iPad and iPhone on the App Store. [Direct Link]

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  2. macs4nw macrumors 601


    ProtonMail, the choice of preference for terrorists and crooks worldwide.....
  3. mw360 macrumors 65816


    Aug 15, 2010
    Yes, but on the other hand, starting tomorrow, Donald Trump will have the power to read your email. :eek:
  4. Robert.Walter macrumors 65816

    Jul 10, 2012
    I wish Apple would do something similar. Maybe with an included VPN.

    Oh and with reasonable storage subscriptions.
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    Such systems are also valued by researchers, lawyers, dissidents and people that generally value their privacy and or want to protect against espionage.
  5. Telos101 macrumors regular


    Apr 29, 2016
    Save a thought for folks living under the panoptic control of authoritarian regimes that routinely shut down any channel that enables "dissent".

    Coming to a country near you.
  6. mkeeley macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2007
    How will that be any different to what Obama's been doing?
  7. Sasparilla, Jan 19, 2017
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    Sasparilla macrumors 6502a

    Jul 6, 2012
    Have to disagree there. Crooks (beyond petty crooks) and terrorists wouldn't trust a e-mail holding site like ProtonMail, because the messages are just stored there (a honeypot for govt surveillance) - cause eventually the govts are going to get in or get a copy and decode it 15 years from now.

    Terrorists in particular know to use encrypted chats that do not store messages or encryption keys on servers. You could take ProtonMail and Signal away and the (really) bad guys would still find or create their own encrypted chat systems that would be would only prevent normal people from having privacy in their communications.

    ProtonMail is for normal folks that want some privacy in their communications - its not fail safe. Signal gives a higher level of privacy / security for communications. The bad guys will always have their own ways of doing things, regardless of ProtonMail or Signal. JMHO...
  8. wlonsdale macrumors newbie

    Aug 30, 2009
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    Like Obama has been doing for eight years
  9. Dagless macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    Considering how petty Donald has been over this... I mean I've never seen a president elect behave in the way Trump does, it could be worrying.
  10. miknos Suspended


    Mar 14, 2008
  11. mw360 macrumors 65816


    Aug 15, 2010
    It would be exactly the same, but with Obama replaced by a petty, vindictive, intolerant, ill-tempered, shameless, unhinged, corrupt proto fascist, who seems to have a real, real problem with dissenting voices.
  12. mkeeley macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2007
    I really like what I've seen of him so far. Upsetting the hand wringers is just icing on the cake.
  13. NomadicTy macrumors regular

    Feb 11, 2007
    So you'd rather have a dear leader that is corrupt, lying, deceiving, murdering by drones (including US citizens without a trial), surveillance state expanding, cold war reigniting, race baiting, clueless about economics, never had a real job nor business before politics, and whistle-blower prosecuting as long as he is smooth talking and sweet jiving? Oh the letter D after names erases all the faults, right?
  14. mw360 macrumors 65816


    Aug 15, 2010
    As far as I can see that description is only one drone strike away from describing Trump. If he campaigned on halting drone strikes then good for him.
  15. KALLT macrumors 601

    Sep 23, 2008
    The choice for people with a bit of common sense. We are all effectively sending and receiving postcards with sensitive information on it. It makes no sense any more, given the available technology. Apple included support for S/MIME in Mail many years ago and it is till pretty much used exclusively by businesses.
  16. canadianreader macrumors 6502


    Sep 24, 2014
    I was thinking the same thing this morning about how people trust appearances while they know the horrible truth behind smiles or tears. They all know about drones killing children in Asia and Middle-East, the NSA, the new cold war or the blind support of the so called "freedom fighters" in Syria. I guess they are reassured by fake smiles and empty words. Thanks for your comment.
  17. justperry macrumors G3


    Aug 10, 2007
    In the core of a black hole.
    This should be in the PRSI section, took only 2 post to make this a Trump/Obama thread.
  18. theBostonian Suspended

    Apr 15, 2012
    You can't escape politics even in the core of a black hole.
  19. DogHouseDub macrumors 6502


    Sep 19, 2007
    You sir/ma'am, are the master of understatement. It's akin to worrying if your car tires have enough tread left to make it through another winter - then letting the family dog do the driving.
  20. coolfactor macrumors 68040

    Jul 29, 2002
    Vancouver, BC CANADA
    I now use Runbox (out of Norway) because I'm done with hosting my email on Google's servers. Beyond just privacy, they tend to just terminate features and services without much notice. I understand that Google needs to make money, and providing reliable, free email services is quite costly, so I'd rather just have no part in their games to recover their costs.

    I run a legitimate website development and hosting business with legitimate clients. Choosing services providers on factors other than cost is a very important aspect of my business. Runbox still delivers the best prices that I've found, amazing customer service, and the privacy that's just better for my clients.
  21. DrewDaHilp1 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 29, 2009
    All Your Memes Are Belong to US
    I thought Tor nodes were already being compromised by intelligence agencies?
  22. jimbobb24 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 6, 2005
    People are scared of Trump using the surveillance state that Bush created and Obama wildly expanded? Better late than never.
  23. webbuzz macrumors 65816


    Jul 24, 2010
    Since day one.
  24. Paul Dawkins Suspended

    Paul Dawkins

    Dec 15, 2016
    Logical fallacy.
  25. MacFever macrumors regular


    Feb 1, 2007
    The encrypted email service (Lavabit) that Snowden used and which closed it's doors because it didn't want to surrender it's servers to government... is coming back... Looks like they are launching a new service in the next 24 hours. Would be interesting to see what they are coming back with...

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