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Prototype 64GB iPhone 4 Circulating in China?
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So do i. I hope this is real. That aluminium backed one was very unattractive in my opinion.
I hope that the next iPhone comes in 32GB and 64GB. Not just because the 32GB Model would cost 199$, but because 16GB is not enough for High-Res Apps and the HD camera and also a decent music Library. They will probably have a 99$ 8GB iPhone 4 and the 32/64 iPhone 5/4G/Whatever
64 GB Nand flash has been in production by Samsung and Toshiba since late 2009. Heck, Toshiba is even now producing 128 GB chips. The problem is that 64 GB chips were and are much more expensive than two 32 GB chips, and the latter can't fit in an iPhone.
The prototype, whether real or not, doesn't at all mean that Apple can afford to put 64 GB in their devices, especially at anywere near the same price points. It's just a test, I assume.
I have no idea what the prices for 64GB Nand chips are since they are not posted anywhere on the internet that I can find. But given that the NAND market prices in general have been fairly stable over the last year, I'd guess they are still pretty expensive. Plus, Apple's demand would probably drive up the prices since I'm sure they are in short supply.
Bottom line is that as much as I really want a 64 GB iPhone, I doubt very much we see one in June of 2011. The only hope maybe is if the iPhone 5 gets a bigger 4"+ screen whereas maybe there will be enough room to stick another 32 GB chip in there. But the chance of Apple doing anything out of the ordinary like this to give us more capacity is close to ZERO. They would have done it with the iPad 2 already if they were going that direction. Plus no other phone has this capacity (even though they all have microSD slots) so there's no market pressure, and Apple also would not want to compete with their own iPod Touch.
So don't hold your collective breaths.
Tony
The prototype, whether real or not, doesn't at all mean that Apple can afford to put 64 GB in their devices, especially at anywere near the same price points. It's just a test, I assume.
I have no idea what the prices for 64GB Nand chips are since they are not posted anywhere on the internet that I can find. But given that the NAND market prices in general have been fairly stable over the last year, I'd guess they are still pretty expensive. Plus, Apple's demand would probably drive up the prices since I'm sure they are in short supply.
Bottom line is that as much as I really want a 64 GB iPhone, I doubt very much we see one in June of 2011. The only hope maybe is if the iPhone 5 gets a bigger 4"+ screen whereas maybe there will be enough room to stick another 32 GB chip in there. But the chance of Apple doing anything out of the ordinary like this to give us more capacity is close to ZERO. They would have done it with the iPad 2 already if they were going that direction. Plus no other phone has this capacity (even though they all have microSD slots) so there's no market pressure, and Apple also would not want to compete with their own iPod Touch.
So don't hold your collective breaths.
Tony
So Apple is doing something dishonest to keep the rest of the its competitors honest? This is how i understood Apple's actions. I believe recently it had been making bulk component purchases in addition to funding production facilities. Moves like that would enable Apple to "name" its prices. HP, Dell, Microsoft and Sony are rich enough to do what Apple does but they don't. They don't strike me as hapless victims of the market.
If this EVT device is real, it would be interesting to see the response from the competition. Are there many phones over 16/32GB onboard storage? Will there be after WWDC?
64 GB Nand flash has been in production by Samsung and Toshiba since late 2009. Heck, Toshiba is even now producing 128 GB chips. The problem is that 64 GB chips were and are much more expensive than two 32 GB chips, and the latter can't fit in an iPhone.
The prototype, whether real or not, doesn't at all mean that Apple can afford to put 64 GB in their devices, especially at anywere near the same price points. It's just a test, I assume.
I have no idea what the prices for 64GB Nand chips are since they are not posted anywhere on the internet that I can find. But given that the NAND market prices in general have been fairly stable over the last year, I'd guess they are still pretty expensive. Plus, Apple's demand would probably drive up the prices since I'm sure they are in short supply.
Bottom line is that as much as I really want a 64 GB iPhone, I doubt very much we see one in June of 2011. The only hope maybe is if the iPhone 5 gets a bigger 4"+ screen whereas maybe there will be enough room to stick another 32 GB chip in there. But the chance of Apple doing anything out of the ordinary like this to give us more capacity is close to ZERO. They would have done it with the iPad 2 already if they were going that direction. Plus no other phone has this capacity (even though they all have microSD slots) so there's no market pressure, and Apple also would not want to compete with their own iPod Touch.
So don't hold your collective breaths.
Tony
But considering that iPad 2 isn't the lame duck that everybody saw coming, I wouldn't put it past Apple to up the iPhone. That "terribly" underspec'd device has blown up the market like supafly TNT. We're talking WebOS. We're talking Xoom and droids. Kaboom! Was there a tablet iPad2. Apple has shaken up the market. Hoping, Hoping. Hoping. yeah!!! But then the reality that Apple does what it wants to sets in. I lower my expectations. Expecting 16/32 and hoping for 64. If 64 is real, I'm definitely putting on my Xmas in July wishlist.
There are not ANY other phones with greater than 32 GB onboard, and I don't know of any with even 32 GB built in, but there may be. There are a few with 16 GB built in (such as the Galaxy S II). But what they ALL have is a microSD slot that supports up to an additional 32GB, so almost of all them can access more than 32GB, probably topping out at a total of 48 GB usable at the same time, although if you want to carry microSD cards around you can swap to what you want making this configuration more versatile. There are limitations with most of these phones in that the apps have to to stored in onboard memory, though, not the microSD card.
So there's not a lot of pressure for Apple to come out with a 64 GB phone. The only REAL pressure is that a lot a people perceive it as their iPod replacement, and iPods have had capacity up to 160GB, so 32GB seems tiny by comparison. Unfortunately as well, I doubt Apple WANTS you to replace your iPod with your iPhone - they'd rather you buy two devices, so again this is not good news if you're waiting for a 64GB phone because, to many, this is enough capacity to not buy a Touch or Classic (not me, mind you, as I need all 160GB of my Classic).
Tony
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Then again, they could throw a single 64GB in the iPhone and two 64GB chips in an iPod touch and discontinue the iPod Classic...
Yes, but as stated, this is going to be too expensive for them to do in June 2011.
Also, having 64 GB in the iPhone would definitely be a deterent to a lot of people from buying even a 128 GB iPod. I think most people's media size falls somewhere in the 32Gb to 64GB range, especially if using the 128 kbps on the fly conversion option in iTunes. There are many users that require much more than that, including me, but Apple would certainly lose a large chuck of iPod Touch buyers if the iPhone went 64 GB.
Tony
Personally, Id rather see an aluminum iP5 with redesigned antennas (no black top strip like the 3G iPad), 4 inch screen, better battery life, and the new dual core A5...not that 64GB wouldnt be nice, I just think people need to relax and be selective about what media they put on their phone. Sorry, but only DJ's NEED to carry entire libraries with them...
...or people who don't want to have to constantly PRE-decide what music the want to listen to each day AND go to their computer every morning to change it around. Yes, I mean OLDER people like me, with more music and less time.
Tony
...or people who don't want to have to constantly PRE-decide what music the want to listen to each day AND go to their computer every morning to change it around. Yes, I mean OLDER people like me, with more music and less time.
Tony
I know i listen to at LEAST 50GBs of music a day...jeez apple get with it
. But seriously theres no way you cant fit what you want to listen to on a 32GB iphone. And for these "DJs" as the above poster mentioned its called a macbook...I know i listen to at LEAST 50GBs of music a day...jeez apple get with it
People who respond in this matter really don't get it.
I don't KNOW what I want to listen to each day. I want to be able to listen to anything I want to listen to at any time of the day. So if that song or album I want to listen to is not on the 20 GB or so that can fit on my 32 GB iPhone (out of the 100 GB+ music that I have), then I can't listen it it, plain and simple. This happens a LOT. Do the math. If I have 20% of the music on my iPhone and what I want to listen to is random, then 80% of the time I'll be disappointed. To some of us, music is not background noise - we want to listen to SPECIFIC things at SPECIFIC times, both of which are unpredictable and thus impossible to plan for in advance.
And don't talk about streaming off a cental server unless you give me an unlimited data plan and consistent 3G service across the area, none of which is currently available.
And thus the need for higher capacity.
Tony
But it's a pre-iPhone 4 prototype that wasn't actually released, which means it has no relevance to the upcoming iPhone 5.
Tony
The iPod touch uses two 32 gb cards while the iPhone only uses one 16 or 32 cause they have t squeeze the 3G antennae and related hardware in as well genius
And to think that my 1st computer only had 20GB...... Now in one little phone you can store around 3 computers.....
