Re: Re: Re: This board is going to be used for...
That would make sense because apple doesn't screw it users like the pc world
That would make sense because apple doesn't screw it users like the pc world
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(to crassusad44) just a note:
When doing Photoshop color mods, remember to change the reflection on the table too. There's still a red reflection on the table from the original image. (see lower right corner of board)
That's not to say that the original couldn't be fake too, but if it was, it was a much better fake.
When doing Photoshop color mods, remember to change the reflection on the table too. There's still a red reflection on the table from the original image. (see lower right corner of board)
That's not to say that the original couldn't be fake too, but if it was, it was a much better fake.
If it's fake it's an EXCELLENT forgery.
look at the traces. you can follow them from component group to component group. The sockets that are obscured by bad lighting were not "fixed" so the pin holes are not apparent......... I doubt it's fake. The only thing that I'm suspect of is the RAM slots.
look at the traces. you can follow them from component group to component group. The sockets that are obscured by bad lighting were not "fixed" so the pin holes are not apparent......... I doubt it's fake. The only thing that I'm suspect of is the RAM slots.
Well...
The keyword here is "prototype" .. not "finished product". It could be an early prototype of a server board without all that other stuff on it yet.
The keyword here is "prototype" .. not "finished product". It could be an early prototype of a server board without all that other stuff on it yet.
Re: question?
As we've discussed in previous threads, the Apple servers are exactly the same as their desktop machines (at this point in time). Hence the presence of a modem port on the mobo. SCSI and additional Ethernet ports are handled through PCI cards.
As we've discussed in previous threads, the Apple servers are exactly the same as their desktop machines (at this point in time). Hence the presence of a modem port on the mobo. SCSI and additional Ethernet ports are handled through PCI cards.
Re: Well...
Yeah could be. But I'm still freaking amazed that this guy tried to sell it. What was he thinking? I'm surprised Apple didn't send Men In Black over to neuralyze him. Also, I thought Apple locked up their prototypes in a generic case you weren't allowed to open. Anyway. Can't wait to WWDC.
Yeah could be. But I'm still freaking amazed that this guy tried to sell it. What was he thinking? I'm surprised Apple didn't send Men In Black over to neuralyze him. Also, I thought Apple locked up their prototypes in a generic case you weren't allowed to open. Anyway. Can't wait to WWDC.
HAHA
Yea.. not "supposed" to open. I would assume also not "supposed" to sell either =) But he tried.
Yea.. not "supposed" to open. I would assume also not "supposed" to sell either =) But he tried.
Re: Re: question?
yeah I'm aware they are the same right now. If this is supposed to be a "rackmount" server mobo, it must have been a quick reconfigure from the desktop mobo. Why waste the circuit board to move things around. Bring on the power baby.
yeah I'm aware they are the same right now. If this is supposed to be a "rackmount" server mobo, it must have been a quick reconfigure from the desktop mobo. Why waste the circuit board to move things around. Bring on the power baby.
Re: Re: Re: question?
I agree. If this is a rack mount mobo, it doesn't need an onboard modem. If it's some sort of hybrid (new desktop form factor) then I can see why it would be included. Here's an upclose view of those ports:
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Originally posted by gjohns01
I agree. If this is a rack mount mobo, it doesn't need an onboard modem. If it's some sort of hybrid (new desktop form factor) then I can see why it would be included. Here's an upclose view of those ports:
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Didn't bother to do Photoshop work. Took me 1 1/2 min in PhotoRetouch Pro...
But thanks for the info, anywayz
Re: This board is going to be used for...
I can believe that. The one thing that's a bit odd is two DDR speeds. Wouldn't that require two different system busses? Never heard of anyone doing that before. Other than that though, thats either a **** good guess, or inside info.
Originally posted by Backtothemac
Hey everyone, I can tell you right now. Write it down. Here are the specs from MWNY.
1.0 1.2 and dual 1.4 G4's all with SOI
No Rapid I/O on this board, but will have bluetooth
266 DDR in 1.0 and 1.2 333 DDR in 1.4's (not positive, could all be 266 or 333)
2 usb 2 firewire 1firewire2.0 and 1usb 2.0
60, 80 and 120GB drives
New Superdrive and faster CDRW's and combos.
Gforce 4MX and Ti's
256,256, and 512 MB of ram exp. to 4GB.
Case revision.
We will see 10.2, updates to iApps, as well as other stuff at NY, but this is by far going to be the biggest.
I can believe that. The one thing that's a bit odd is two DDR speeds. Wouldn't that require two different system busses? Never heard of anyone doing that before. Other than that though, thats either a **** good guess, or inside info.
ADC POWER PORT
OK so this is the low down of the image
AGP with a "ADC power port" (Why would you need this in a server?)
AirPort "cool maybe 2.4ghz or highter"
4 DDR slots recessed far back on the mainboard
(Maybe this is a new tower design?)
If it running DDR then the bus must be up t aleast 266mhz maybe 333mhz
Apple CPU connector (standard)
Three IDE ports
(one for main HD plus CD/DVD Drive)
(The other two IDE ports are for RAID Arays)
(Ideal for Video editor's)
Modem(Standard)
Battery(standard)
And RED mainboard(Test board)
FireWire(2 ports, maybe 2.0)
USB(2 Ports, not likly to be 2.0 also)
Mini-Jack line in(Thank god apple brought it back, what a mistake that was)
Unknow port(to me it look alot like the video port on the ibook)
OK so this is the low down of the image
AGP with a "ADC power port" (Why would you need this in a server?)
AirPort "cool maybe 2.4ghz or highter"
4 DDR slots recessed far back on the mainboard
(Maybe this is a new tower design?)
If it running DDR then the bus must be up t aleast 266mhz maybe 333mhz
Apple CPU connector (standard)
Three IDE ports
(one for main HD plus CD/DVD Drive)
(The other two IDE ports are for RAID Arays)
(Ideal for Video editor's)
Modem(Standard)
Battery(standard)
And RED mainboard(Test board)
FireWire(2 ports, maybe 2.0)
USB(2 Ports, not likly to be 2.0 also)
Mini-Jack line in(Thank god apple brought it back, what a mistake that was)
Unknow port(to me it look alot like the video port on the ibook)
I don't think that that port is like the video one on the iBook. Why would Apple do that?
About this motherboard going into a rack... (I don't know much about racks, so bear with me on this one...)
Wouldn't it be plausible for Apple to make a server rack, AND a high-end workstation rack? This way, high-end users would be able to buy something like 4 rack-mountable computers and put them all in a rack. And maybe with a special PCI card or something, hook them all together to work as one computer?
This way, people who need tons of power, with an un-limited budget can buy as many computers as they need, and hook them all together, and the lower end pro users would be able to affordably buy one.
Just a thought, but this may explain some of the features like the firewire, usb, and all of that other stuff on a 'server'. Since Apple's server and desktop motherboards are the same, it would make sense for Apple to use this 'test' motherboard in regular desktop, or high-end rack computers...
About this motherboard going into a rack... (I don't know much about racks, so bear with me on this one...)
Wouldn't it be plausible for Apple to make a server rack, AND a high-end workstation rack? This way, high-end users would be able to buy something like 4 rack-mountable computers and put them all in a rack. And maybe with a special PCI card or something, hook them all together to work as one computer?
This way, people who need tons of power, with an un-limited budget can buy as many computers as they need, and hook them all together, and the lower end pro users would be able to affordably buy one.
Just a thought, but this may explain some of the features like the firewire, usb, and all of that other stuff on a 'server'. Since Apple's server and desktop motherboards are the same, it would make sense for Apple to use this 'test' motherboard in regular desktop, or high-end rack computers...
test boards
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but I seem to recall another thread where it was established that Apple uses a series of different colored boards that effectively mark the stage that the process is at. I can't find the thread, though. If anyone can confirm this, what does the red mean, ae we gong to see this in a year, or five years, or ever?
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but I seem to recall another thread where it was established that Apple uses a series of different colored boards that effectively mark the stage that the process is at. I can't find the thread, though. If anyone can confirm this, what does the red mean, ae we gong to see this in a year, or five years, or ever?
That is no gigawire
It is just a 56k modem on the motherboard. You are making a fuss over nothing. And still only 4 PCI slots. When will Apple ever learn some people really use 6 PCI slots. True I could go get a Magma case or Marathon Computing rackmount, but that's not the point.
It is just a 56k modem on the motherboard. You are making a fuss over nothing. And still only 4 PCI slots. When will Apple ever learn some people really use 6 PCI slots. True I could go get a Magma case or Marathon Computing rackmount, but that's not the point.
Re: That is no gigawire
Please provide some photographic evidence that shows it's a modem port.
From the pictures we've seen here thus far, it looks more like a 1394b port than a modem.
Please provide some photographic evidence that shows it's a modem port.
From the pictures we've seen here thus far, it looks more like a 1394b port than a modem.
just curious about something in general...
why is there such a "small" limit on RAM in the current macs (ie towers)? i remember hearing a guy at the maya demo at mwny last year saying the computer was a dual 800 with 1.5 gigs, but ideally the computer would have 5 gigs of ram with terabytes of hard drive space...
so is the issue of limiting it to 1.5 (as of now) a cost, space, practical (ie, not enough people would want more than 3 slots to make it worthwhile) issue?
why is there such a "small" limit on RAM in the current macs (ie towers)? i remember hearing a guy at the maya demo at mwny last year saying the computer was a dual 800 with 1.5 gigs, but ideally the computer would have 5 gigs of ram with terabytes of hard drive space...
so is the issue of limiting it to 1.5 (as of now) a cost, space, practical (ie, not enough people would want more than 3 slots to make it worthwhile) issue?
the evidence it isn't 1394b
Nobody knows what 1394b will look like, it is only rumored. But I know how big my modem port is, and you could easily fit a modem port in that box shaped port shown in the image above. No other port is a modem port on that machine, and if you think the modem port will be on the front of the Mac, which it would have to be if it is next to that airport card slot, think again, Apple wouldn't do that. By process of elimination it is the 56k modem. And why only give one 1394b port? That's plain silly. We'll see who is right in July. I'd certainly like to be proven wrong, but remember until we actually see the thing, or the specs for 1394b are out, my guess is the 56k modem has been put on the motherboard next to the other ports.
Nobody knows what 1394b will look like, it is only rumored. But I know how big my modem port is, and you could easily fit a modem port in that box shaped port shown in the image above. No other port is a modem port on that machine, and if you think the modem port will be on the front of the Mac, which it would have to be if it is next to that airport card slot, think again, Apple wouldn't do that. By process of elimination it is the 56k modem. And why only give one 1394b port? That's plain silly. We'll see who is right in July. I'd certainly like to be proven wrong, but remember until we actually see the thing, or the specs for 1394b are out, my guess is the 56k modem has been put on the motherboard next to the other ports.
I don't think it's the modem port.
My initial reaction to the suggestion that the mystery port is a modem port is that this is not the case.
There is a location complete with screw mount (right next to the airport socket toward the PCI slots) and a typical looking modem socket (labled on the diagram version of the photo as a cable connection) on the board for a modem daughter card, complete with it's typical cable attachment nearby (the white blob on the edge of the logic board to the left of the airport socket).
Another thought is that, although an ethernet plug is wider than a phone jack, it is the same height. Thus the fact that port X is quite a bit smaller than the ethernet port could point to it being something else.
I have swapped out my share of G4 logic boards, and modem cards and the phone cord receptacle have always resided each in their own enclosures, OFF the board.
I could be way off base, but I believe that the reasoning behind this is that modems are frequently blown in areas where thunderstorms occur. Why replace the whole MLB when you could just replace a daughter card?
Typically the phone cord receptacle (PCR) rides above the MLB, mounted to the case, and connects to the board with a very short cable.
My initial reaction to the suggestion that the mystery port is a modem port is that this is not the case.
There is a location complete with screw mount (right next to the airport socket toward the PCI slots) and a typical looking modem socket (labled on the diagram version of the photo as a cable connection) on the board for a modem daughter card, complete with it's typical cable attachment nearby (the white blob on the edge of the logic board to the left of the airport socket).
Another thought is that, although an ethernet plug is wider than a phone jack, it is the same height. Thus the fact that port X is quite a bit smaller than the ethernet port could point to it being something else.
I have swapped out my share of G4 logic boards, and modem cards and the phone cord receptacle have always resided each in their own enclosures, OFF the board.
I could be way off base, but I believe that the reasoning behind this is that modems are frequently blown in areas where thunderstorms occur. Why replace the whole MLB when you could just replace a daughter card?
Typically the phone cord receptacle (PCR) rides above the MLB, mounted to the case, and connects to the board with a very short cable.