"Proview's suit alleges that Apple's efforts to keep its identity secret amounted to fraud."
Translation: "We should have asked for a lot more money."
Translation: "We should have asked for a lot more money."
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Proview Sues Apple in U.S. Over Alleged Deception in iPad Trademark Purchase
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Proview was paid what Proview asked for the rights, which they said included China. They are the ones that are acting in bad faith, not Apple. So they deserve nothing and should get nothing.
The only reason that Apple doesn't 'own' the trademark on the books is because Proview is refusing to honor a signed and paid deal and transferring the 'ownership'.
It would be like if you owned a car and I offered to buy it from you and we sent a deal, even put it on paper and I gave you the money you asked for. But then you found out that I had just won the lotto and felt that I should have paid you more so you refuse to file the paperwork to transfer the registration.
Why should they upset. They got their asking price. I'm sure they were happy with it at the time of sale.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's been thinking that the ProView logo looked an awful lot like the original Portal logo. Maybe they're an Aperture Science subsidiary?
Actually, that would explain a lot about their recent legal dealings.
Question: Doesn't it undermine their case that the party that sold the trademark for China wasn't authorized to do so when you're simultaneously suing over the trademark in another country claiming that Apple owns it, you just didn't charge them enough because you didn't do the background checks.
I said elsewhere that if Apple had been asked for millions of dollars for the iPad trademark they probably would have just called it something else equally silly-sounding that would have seemed equally natural after hearing it for a couple months. "iPad" was widely mocked, and MacBook sounded ridiculous, but nobody thinks anything of either now, so the iTab iSlate or iSlab or whatever would seem normal now. Even country-specific--Japan got used to the Airport being called AirMac.
Actually I'd venture to say that the Chinese Mafia (CM) runs capitalism in Communist China. Those banks that are behind this have deep pocket too, since the CM controls most of the funds.
You're totally right, but its not even about Apple's value here in America. This is standard ops. in the intellectual property realm. I've been involved in some of these kinds of deals, and the buyer almost never wants the seller to know who they are or what they want. As soon as a seller sniffs out an amazing idea, they suddenly take the price from reasonable to nearly impossible to swallow. I was once in a negotiation where a seller had caught up on whom the buyer probably was, and announced with much fanfare that the price tag for a domain name we were seeking had gone from $12,000 to $250,000. They get starstruck and lose site of reality. Obviously, this deal didn't happen.
Proview can claim "fraud" all they want, but that boat don't float around these parts.
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+1 ... so right about that.
Any idea where you read that? I've said quietly in my own circles that I'd be willing to pay more for American-made Apple products, but my only reservation was how much. I said that without any knowledge of how much that increase would really be though -- so I'd love to read that.
If it was $60 on the iPad -- I'd pay it. I know some people can't afford to, or simply wouldn't want to... but to support my country, and provide American jobs, I'd pay it.
I think it was the WSJ, but it only considers labor costs and nothing else. Labor is a very small part of the overall cost of the iPad. It is a very flawed talking point.
Or annoying little brother
Honestly Proview, this is just getting embarrassing.
The expression: "Grasping at Straws" comes to mind (as does "frivolous litigation".)
Apple invented frivolous litigation.
The big issue i remember reading about was that Apple has their devices built in China because ALL of the fabrication can be done there with fabrication plants being near each other. One plant builds certain chips, one plant makes the glass screen etc.
This makes the process very easy and cost effective where in the U.S. Apple would be stuck importing different parts because there isn't the factory infrastructure here to build all the different parts and streamline the production.
I think it would be a boost to Brazil, India, and possibly Africa's economies, not the US.
You claim ethical and moral superiority, yet you show prejudice and ignorance. How many hours have you been studying this case such that you can make a bold claim like that? Haven't you seen the papers where Apple purchases the IPAD trademark?
So this common practice is deception... and yet despite what the Hong Kong court decided in Apples favor, its NOT deception for Proview (the parent company) to sell the trademark and state that it included China, then have their own subsidiary (also called Proview) magically disagree, two years later, with the deal the parent company made. I see
(I wonder if the name was coincidence, or an intended Apple rip-off, albeit a legal one? I believe Proview trademarked iPAD in 1998, same year the iMac came outfirst of Apple's iName products. And ProView's iPAD all-in-one, as Peace posted above, looks suspiciously like that first iMac too! Look at the holes and handles. None of which seems very relevant today, but it would be ironic if the whole thing started with Proview trying to make a knock-off iMac and get it confused on both style and name with the real thing!)
You are so on the money. I said the same thing when I saw pictures of their IPAD.
Ah, the classic Walt Disney trick.
This is exactly how Walt bought up all that farmland in Orlando without the price skyrocketing.
I find these kind of business "spy stuff" stories fascinating.
This is exactly how Walt bought up all that farmland in Orlando without the price skyrocketing.
I find these kind of business "spy stuff" stories fascinating.
I'm sure Google would give them a no-interest "pay me back whenever you can" loan on the sly as well to keep the fire burning on these lawsuits.
This iPad trademark suit and its potentially negative implications for iPad exports from China has me thinking it will be a relief when automation replaces the many hands method of building iWidgets and manufacturing can be done cost effectively in the US.