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Proview Sues Apple in U.S. Over Alleged Deception in iPad Trademark Purchase

This action kind of undemines their case against Apple's ownership of the iPad trademark in China.

If the entity sueing them is Proview's Taiwan arm, then why? Are they even party to the ongoing lawsuit?

If they entity sueing them is Proview's PRC arm, then why would they sue regarding a trademark they believe they own anyway?

Odd.
 
Hmmm, so if Proview didn't sell the IPAD rights to Apple's shell company, how can they sue Apple for deception?

Game over Proview!
 
I know this is not on topic, but here goes.

I just wanted to be the first to say happy birthday to Steve Jobs. He would have been 57 today. I wished he was still here thinking up new fantastic products to make our lives easier.

I hate to do it in this post, because of it's negativity, but I have never had a story take root on here ever.
 
peteullo said:
I can't believe this company just won't give up already. There is no way the US court will penalize its most valuable company for a company that is near bankrupt and from a foreign country.
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I would hope that a US court would rule solely one the relevant facts and not based on the financial status and nationality of the two companies.
Here we've been told by the Macrumors "experts" of how corrupt the chinese courts are. Are US courts no better?
 
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Dear proview,

That is not fraud. Apple was. It required to identify themselves to you. Since you scoundrels currently make no relevant products please blow up in a gas fire.
 
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DanteMann said:
And the shameless hypocrisy continues. Please Apple just pay what you should pay in good faith already. You try to sue Samsung and others at every turn, but you blatantly use someone else's trademark and for whatever reason, you feel you shouldn't have to pay. But everyone else owes you everything right? I've got a nice tall glass of ethics and morals on the table for you. Come take nice big soul cleansing swig.
Absolutely despicable and shameless.
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Comprehension is not something you would consider a strong suit?
 
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macguy360 said:
afin said:
That would be a boost to the U.S. economy, but wouldn't that just drive product prices far higher than they already are?
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It has already been estimated that if iPads were made in the U.S. the price increase wouldn't be substantial. I believe the article that I had read said that the price increase would only be about $60 per iPad.
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The article is wrong. The increase only accounts for estimated labor. It would probably cost 20 billion dollars up front to get to the point it was only $63 more dollars a unit
 
iPadPublisher said:
Any idea where you read that? I've said quietly in my own circles that I'd be willing to pay more for American-made Apple products, but my only reservation was how much. I said that without any knowledge of how much that increase would really be though -- so I'd love to read that.

If it was $60 on the iPad -- I'd pay it. I know some people can't afford to, or simply wouldn't want to... but to support my country, and provide American jobs, I'd pay it.
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I believe it was $60 in additional labor costs, which I believe is highly unlikely since the academics who wrote the article had no knowledge of the manufacturing process. We just found out part of the process and number of steps to assemble and iPad, not all the steps to manufacture all the components.

The speculated cost of $60 more dollars in my opinion does not include the facility, and operational costs for a series of facilities.

As fas as supporting US jobs, you do support jobs at Apple, FedEx, UPS, and many others in the chain. The CPU I believe right now is made in Austin, Tx which has many US workers.
 
They may have a better chance of winning here as the US is up china's rear, not to mention china has no native hi-tech it's all ours. China can just raise the toll prices here to pay for the cost of the legal case and dumbed down people will never notice.
 
I'm excited to see what the US will say bout this case, gonna whoop their ass back to China.

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Lennholm said:
I would hope that a US court would rule solely one the relevant facts and not based on the financial status and nationality of the two companies.
Here we've been told by the Macrumors "experts" of how corrupt the chinese courts are. Are US courts no better?
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Yes, from what I've seen especially in federal courts, when it's one person vs the government, the government does do a good job to not be corrupt. it's surprised me how un biased they are at times.
 
macguy360 said:
The big issue i remember reading about was that Apple has their devices built in China because ALL of the fabrication can be done there with fabrication plants being near each other. One plant builds certain chips, one plant makes the glass screen etc.

This makes the process very easy and cost effective where in the U.S. Apple would be stuck importing different parts because there isn't the factory infrastructure here to build all the different parts and streamline the production.
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The infrastructure was here, they move it overseas. China didn't invent that.
 
Hmmm...

Not being a big Scrabble player, I wonder if 'Proview' and 'Psystar' are worth the same number of points. I think they'll both be worth the same thing in the end, however.

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The article is wrong. The increase only accounts for estimated labor. It would probably cost 20 billion dollars up front to get to the point it was only $63 more dollars a unit
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Ok. That leaves $80 billion. What next? :D
 
NameUndecided said:
Laugh now, but every one of you just wait. Proview is going to win this case in China and now in the USA. Apple is going to have to change the name of their iPad, and Proview is FINALLY going to give their original IPAD that looks alarmingly like an iMac but never mind that part the 1000fold comeback that it deserves.

The re-emergence of Proview's IPAD will act as a complete game changer on what present society's definition of what a "game changer" actually is, and the only reason anyone will carry around their Apple iTabs (formerly the Apple iPad) is because they'll want something flat and sturdy to rest their Proview IPADs on (new models will feature a carrying-handle and convenient retractable electrical plug).
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The people the voted down this post need to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
 
LastName said:
Not being a big Scrabble player, I wonder if 'Proview' and 'Psystar' are worth the same number of points. I think they'll both be worth the same thing in the end, however.

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Ok. That leaves $80 billion. What next? :D
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it's not gonna happen bro, the next oppurtunity to move manufacturing back here, is when it all moves to another third world country for cheaper prices, and we almost certainly won't get it back then either.
 
proview dilemma

seems to me proview are desperate they are cash starved and their argument
1) that apple were deceptive in their initial purchase is flawed and
2) they should have used due diligence which is their perogative.
So the resulting consequences are down to them.
 
Gamoe said:
Sneaky, sneaky Apple!!

Frankly, it was deceptive- Whether it was fair game or not, or more importantly in this case- legal or not- is another question entirely. But I would be upset if I thought I was dealing with a small company and it turned out to be a famous and huge international corporation, that's for sure.
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Here's the alternative: Apple says "We are Apple, we want to buy the iPad trademark from you". Proview: "Pay us one BIIIILLON dollars". Apple: "We changed our mind, we'll call it the ApplePad in China and you get nothing".
 
SteveSparks said:
I believe it was $60 in additional labor costs, which I believe is highly unlikely since the academics who wrote the article had no knowledge of the manufacturing process. We just found out part of the process and number of steps to assemble and iPad, not all the steps to manufacture all the components.
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Sure, but if it's worth exploring opening a factory in Brazil to get around high tariffs surely the transporting of raw parts from non-local locations can't be that big of a stumbling block.
 
So Proview, in complaining to the courts that Apple deceived them when they signed the deal, is actually admitting that they signed it. Therefore, upon that admission, they are legally bound to uphold the agreement with Apple. At least, in my books, that's an admission.
 
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