Still at 5.0.48 on Setapp. Maybe .49 to .52 are just adding then removing the junk-ware, lol?
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PSA: Bartender Mac App Under New Ownership, But Lack of Transparency Raises Concerns
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At this point, they’ve bungled this too much for me to have any trust in what they’re doing. I’m sticking on v5.0.48 for now. Works just fine for me and my needs.
Do they have 14 year olds running their promos and customer relations? It was such a random mention without any reference to WWDC at all anywhere in their posts nor does WWDC have anything to do with their app what-so-ever.
They just keep piling on the wincing remarks (or lack thereof).
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I'm so bummed about this. When you violate trust once, it's hard/next to impossible (especially in software world) to regain that, and they're not doing a good job of it. I'm using Ice now and it's lovely. Basic for what I needed.
I tried Ice and it seems closest in feature parity to Bartender, but still nothing that specifically lets you choose which apps are hidden and which aren’t and specifically where they’re located.
I’m so bummed, too. Seeing how they’re wording some of this, I just lose trust even more.
I don't have those issues with Ice. You can CMD drag icons to be hidden/always hidden and where they're placed.
The irony is that Ice requires the same screen recording permissions people are freaking out about for Bartender
ICE work perfectly!
About Bartender, informing customers was complete crap.. or in other words, there was no information at all. Here is a great example of how to lose customers and trust. it would be interesting to see what percentage of customers switched to another product.
About Bartender, informing customers was complete crap.. or in other words, there was no information at all. Here is a great example of how to lose customers and trust. it would be interesting to see what percentage of customers switched to another product.
That usually implies that there is less control and oversight of the code. No one is reviewing almost all of the gazillion small open source projects. And, almost everyone who decides to use those projects doesn't review the code for themselves.
But, in the case of ICE, the developer seems to be well known and there are a number of well known collaborators. I would have high confidence that ICE has enough eyes on it ensuring that nothing is amiss.
Unfortunately Ice doesn't keep 1Password in the shown section. It keeps reverting 1Password to the Always Hidden area even though I manually move it to the Always Shown area. I am trying Hidden Bar now.
Now using Ice 0.10-beta.2 (which is for Macs with a notch, I'm on a Mac Studio Display) and so far it seems to be working well regarding 1Password.
Anyone else fully remove Bartender 5 yet when they restart their Mac the little blue "accessing location" indicator shows, and when you click on the Control Center menubar icon it says "Bartender 5"? I've trawled my HD looking for what is causing this and I'm at a loss as to what is still lingering around. I've removed all entries from Login Items, LaunchDaemons and LaunchAgents for my user and system wide but something is obviously still getting launched somewhere.
I removed Bartender 5 with AppCleaner and haven't seen any issues like you are reporting.
You might look at Settings > Open at Login to see if there is anything listed there.
Yeah, I did remove it initially with AppCleaner and then followed some instructions from somewhere, that I can't now find, that removed some additional bits and pieces that AppCleaner didn't find. There's nothing relating to it in Open at Login or the various LaunchAgent and LaunchDaemon directories. It's all very strange.
I bet most people that use the app still don’t know anything about this. Most Mac users don’t hang out in the MacRumors forms.
Every time you download an app, there’s a risk involved. Ask yourself, do I really need this? If the answer is not really or I can be fine without it then don’t use it.
This being said, I don’t always go by this and have used bartender in the past. It’s a bit risky having an app with screen recording permission from an unknown developer installed in your Mac. This would be gold to mine data. Each person has to decide if this is a risk they want to take.
