Please check how fast Amazon's Graviton 2 is.
It is faster than the best Xeon.
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PSA for Developers: Mac Mini With A12Z Chip Cannot Be Repaired at Genius Bar or Service Provider
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Please check how fast Amazon's Graviton 2 is.
It is faster than the best Xeon.
One bets against Apple to their own detriment.
Media editing and engineering will work fine on Arm Macs.
It is related in the sense that the argument you are making suffers from the same fallacy. “There was a hierarchy yesterday and tomorrow that hierarchy will remain.”
I see you have the ability to predict the future of processors that has not even been developed yet.
Apple is not going to simply pull a CPU of of an iPad and slap it into a Mac.
The machines what they do ship next year are going to have a very different CPU that what an iPad or an iPhone has.
The testing Mac Mini is simply going to put so developer can TEST software - They are certainly not being built to speed machines
Common sense people please!
Demonstrably false. The chip in this dev kit was released publicly in mass quantities in 2018 in the iPad Pro, and was designed to function well in that environment - 1/4” think, cramped quarters, limited battery power and no cooling to speak of. They used it in this dev kit, rather than some newer iteration, because it’s powerful enough for the task at hand - developer transition. There was no need to put faster hardware in the box they’re leasing to thousands of developers. The machines that will start rolling out in the fall will be using entirely different chips, which have likely been in development for years, that are targeted towards the needs, and resources, of a laptop - more power and lots more cooling capacity, You seem unable to understand this point.
It’s clear that you’ve got your narrative etched in stone already, and are just bending any new tidbits as necessary to fit with your existing ”truth”. Why continue discussing it?
I think the “X” variants of the ARM chips seen in iPads for many years now, have been developed with the later use as Mac CPU already in mind. Perhaps they have even been explicitly developed to eventually lead up to an ARM Mac and put in iPads for testing purposes and (partially) re-financing R&D costs.
I'd look at things like precompiled headers. With one project I got a four time speedup just doing that, with no code change. And I'd look at the number of compile threads. Some open source apps spend three times more time to check their environment than the actual compile.
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Of course. "There will never be a Mac shipped to customers with this chip, so benchmarks will at best be misleading".
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Why would anyone want that?
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Squeezing it into less space costs time and money, which would be completely wasted.
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No, it takes you 6 hours to compile a massive laundry list of packages (including several semi-independent components of Qt) on which Qt depends.
If only there were tools to manage dependencies between packages so that you didn't have to keep doing that... maybe someone could even make a tool so you didn't even need to re-compile a whole package every time you changed a few lines...
Apple likely also used the A12z to avoid tipping off the competition as to what their custom silicon would be capable of.
If an iPad chip is already capable of better performance than many an intel chip, I can’t wait to see what a chip designed with a laptop or PC form factor will be truly capable of.
Just imagine - longer battery life and superior performance in a thin and light form factor without fear of thermal throttling.
No they won't - they'll **hopefully** have an ARM version of the Mac mini out by then. Just because it's out doesn't mean Intel development has stopped. a Mac mini is a budget machine - think about the people who have a £15,000 Mac Pro Intel rig - they'll be supported for a solid 7-8 years to come. It'll be a longer transition than PPC to Intel because Intel had ready to go chips and Apple don't. Intel had solid platforms available for all desktop systems, Apple don't.
There are planned Intel systems which haven't even released yet! There's no doubt in my mind you'd get a solid 7 years of use and updates and support for apps out of all Intel systems released a which point a 7 year old system isn't worth much anyway.
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Of course RAM will be soldered - they've never gone back at all, the latest revisions don't let you upgrade the RAM. The Mac mini and the iMac Pro have non user friendly ways to get into them where you can physically remove the chips - but the 27-inch iMac is really the only system left with user upgradeable ram and once that goes thin and SSD only no doubt it'll go.
Can't say I really care, the only reason people want to upgrade their own ram is to save money.
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We know what an A12Z can do though. It's of no interest - it's not going into a consumer product.
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Just to let you know, Linux exists in ARM (that's how it runs in a Raspberry but also in more powerful boards, and it just does the same as x86_64 counterparts).
to aapl:
new a12z mac mini spec should have
way better performance than quad i7
easy user replacable ram
user upgradable discreet graphics gpu
easy user replaceable ssd
another small on led next to rear power button
i still like the shape and color
new a12z mac mini spec should have
way better performance than quad i7
easy user replacable ram
user upgradable discreet graphics gpu
easy user replaceable ssd
another small on led next to rear power button
i still like the shape and color
1) Who's going to get this hot new piece of Hardware and not run any Benchmark tests or see what's cooking inside?
2) Will I get my $500.00 back at the end if they don't let me keep it?
3) Maybe it makes more sense to wait until the
I'm sure you'll get this Mac mini under a NDA.
As long as you don't make any Benchmark results public and don't share it even with your friends, you should be OK.
Of course, read the fine print of the NDA, just in case.
2) Will I get my $500.00 back at the end if they don't let me keep it?
3) Maybe it makes more sense to wait until the
IMO, Apple iOS just trying to avoid having benchmarks for a prototype become public before the official release, as these could affect public perception and their stock value. Besides, it makes no sense.
I'm sure you'll get this Mac mini under a NDA.
As long as you don't make any Benchmark results public and don't share it even with your friends, you should be OK.
Of course, read the fine print of the NDA, just in case.
They are not selling an a12z Mac mini, so what’s the point ?
To all the people talking about benchmarks and ifixit tear downs this is not a system that’s not going to be sold ever. Apple took an iPad processor and shoved it into a Mac mini just to develop software. An ARM based Mac will have a different processor designed for this purpose
iFixit basically thrives off of hot takes/scoops and the associated traffic they bring along with people buying their overpriced tools that they subsequently use to **** up their devices because rIgHt To RePaiR!!!11!
Of course they do. But who the hell cares about an Apple TV Dev kit? For $5 in ad revenue they nuked their relationship with Apple.
Only had 64K to write a BASIC Program.Sorry - the days of "I'm compiling code so I need the top end model" came to an end years ago - especially with the advent of SSDs (but I won't tell your boss if you don't - Folding@Home needs your over-specced machine to solve coronavirus ...). (OK, I'm being snarky - there are some seriously large code bases out there and loadsa cores do help - but when I were a lad you had to swap floppies 16 times just to compile a 'Hello World' program in Pascal and we was grateful!).
...but if you did manage to blag a 28-core Mac Pro "for compiling" then don't worry - you can still compile for ARM targets on an Intel Mac (if not, the iPhone would be in big trouble...)