Notebookcheck released their review today and the PWM is much worse than last years Pro so sensitive users beware.
14 Pro - 240 Hz
13 Pro - 510 Hz
14 Pro - 240 Hz
13 Pro - 510 Hz
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iPhone 14 Pro PSA: iPhone 14 Pro PWM much worse than 13 Pro
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There is something wrong with the test. Read the article… Furthermore this topic is already been discussed in the pwm thread…
I did read the article so reference where the issue is with the testing? Please enlighten me on the pwm thread. I searched and one didn’t exists which is why I created the post.
Assuming people didn’t read an article then mentioning a thread all while providing zero links or references helps nobody.
Post in thread 'Eye-strain while using iPhone X and up'
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/eye-strain-while-using-iphone-x-and-up.2085427/post-31591529
So if you really did read the article, you should have noticed that the measurements are not the same as the explanations in their article.
Follow the link. It has already been disussed….
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/eye-strain-while-using-iphone-x-and-up.2085427/post-31591529
So if you really did read the article, you should have noticed that the measurements are not the same as the explanations in their article.
Follow the link. It has already been disussed….
By the way i did a few test by myself (14 pro vs. 13 mini). Only with 240fps but its very clear, that the 14 pro performs better. So i think the notebookcheck article must be wrong..
Interesting!
My 13 pro is so easy on the eyes, but my 14 pro is so different, like my eyes are burning slightly when using it. This seems to answer why that’s happening!
Appreciate the link but it’s just a few MacRumors folks claiming something is wrong with no proof. And my post was only a couple hours after that link was reported in that 200+ thread that goes off topic more times than not, nobody wants to sift through all that ha.
Looks like it does, but he is comparing 13 Pro vs 14 Pro. Taking glance at the iPhone 13 Pro review images, they seem to perform nearly the same.
13 Pro: 510 Hz at 100 % brightness setting
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Review - Bombastic smartphone with minor weaknesses
The Apple iPhone 13 Pro impressed in our review, thanks to the new A15 Bionic, 6 GB of RAM, lots of storage, superb battery life, and a strong triple-camera system.
14 Pro: 482.6 Hz at 100 % brightness setting
So yeah, there appears to be a mistake in text of the 14 Pro review.
Just found this thread - I have a great deal of trouble using OLED screens because of PWM. Presently on iPhone 11 that I picked up earlier this year to replace an iPhone 8. I plan to stay on LCD screens as long as I can; hopefully Apple continues to offer at least one iPhone with LCD, otherwise I'll switch to a cheap android I suppose. It's just a phone, and not having headaches and eye strain is far more important to me than having the latest tech.
A simple explanation is that a 240.0Hz rate lines up perfectly with 240fps slow-motion so as not to appear on video. Otherwise I would be very excited with the progress Apple has made if I hadn’t already tried iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max—neither work for me enough to not cause eye strain symptoms and headaches.
Another interesting thing is that apple has improved the amplitude at which it flickers , frequency is 480hz constant above 39% brightness and below that its 240hz but the flicker is still reduced due to the way dimming has been implemented , i am getting my iphone 14 pro tomorrow , i will update the thread and see how it affects me , am really sensitive to PWM
iPhone 14 Pro Max has been significantly better than past OLED iPhones. I’m definitively in the top 1% of 1% of PWM-sensitive users, and I’ve been adjusting in a way I hadn’t before.
This doesn’t mean it’s symptom-free, but in retrospect the effect I’m having including persistent headaches after use is quite subdued.
I’d like to see amplitudes measured for the iPhone 14 lineup, although what I’ve seen indicates that Apple has lowered amplitudes so that they’re ~ 12% throughout most brightness levels as the max brightness of the panel is 2000nits.
Yes, I tried iPhone 12 Pro Max and my experience was mostly the same as iPhone X: constant headaches including persistent headaches after use.
thats great to hear man , i compared my old iphone X flickering and 14 pro is much better now at 480hz, i hope this cures everything , really waiting for tomorrow to check it out and see how it is , i literally had severe pain above eyebrows while using X
I had constant throbbing behind my eyes during and after using iPhone X.
The results seem to imply that iPhone 14 Pro Max has 240Hz flickering at lower brightness levels, then 480Hz above 39% brightness. However, Apple has continued to get closer to a DC dimming implementation and the effect has been lessened for me across all brightness levels.
The odd part is the Mini LED MacBook Pro has 14,880Hz PWM and that has been worse for me than this iPhone. So I’m beginning to look less to the rate, but I do still think 960Hz combined with DC dimming would be enough to mitigate eye strain symptoms.
I’ve been of the opinion that we should have a DC dimming Accessibility option for years. Perhaps the reduction in color accuracy or burn-in prevention is holding them back from offering a better DC dimming solution.
yea but i think they should still give that as an option , little bad colors are btter than migraines. and specially when apple gives priority to safety
Exactly, I’d be okay with some of the grays being off if it meant no migraines.
So i got my iphone 14 pro today , been using extensively for 4 hours , i can say eye strain is definitely less than iphone X but it is still there and slightly burning eyes and nausea. am hoping it gets better in few days else i would have to return , feels really bad its an amazing phone specially coming from iphone 11 .