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PSA: You'll Have to Visit an Apple Store If You Forget Your Vision Pro Passcode

Changing the password toolkit, by Apple:

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klasma said:
Passkeys are just keys stored in your iCloud keychain. To use your keychain, you must authenticate yourself. The way to authenticate yourself is by entering your passcode. Biometrics is only used as a convenience shortcut. Internally it still uses the passcode or device key. Biometrics doesn't replace anything. That’s why you need to reenter your passcode on reboot. The root of authentication is always something you know, not how you look. That’s why passcodes aren't going away.
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Never understood why Apple Biometrics is secure enough to enter my financial sites but is not secure to access an Apple device after a reboot. Apple should provide an option to always allow biometrics.
 
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ifxf said:
Never understood why Apple Biometrics is secure enough to enter my financial sites but is not secure to access an Apple device after a reboot. Apple should provide an option to always allow biometrics.
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I've thought the same for a long time, and it just makes sense with this device. It would make it a lot more seamless.
 
Unfortunately I can remember a credit card number, exp date & verification - six numbers is no problem for me. As others have said, Apple dropped the ball on this one. What happens if you live in an extremely rural area (me) and no Apple Store > a send back; does Apple pay for shipping or would that be on my dime?

Tom
 
ifxf said:
Partially finished prototype, this and no find my functionality. You think for the price they could have include a small battery in the unit.
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I don't think this is about price, after all the box comes with extras now uncommon in other devices such as two straps, the infamous polishing cloth, a charger lol. The device doesn't have a battery by design (possibly weight, which is already high).

A couple of iterations later perhaps the weight can be brought down along with the inclusion of a standby battery.
 
I don't get how folks here are blaming Apple for people not being smart enough to remember or write down their passcode. It's like blaming Apple for idiots driving with their AVP on.

I have a solution: during the AVP setup Apple could suggest people write their passcode in a note on their iPhone. And if they want to be really secure, lock the note with Face ID.

Seems like a no-brainer... then again, some people apparently actually have no brains.
 
klasma said:
That's quite an assumption that everyone has favorite sports heroes or is even remotely interested in sports. ;)
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Then you can use your favourite Roman emperors' year of death:

Marcus Aurelius 180 A.D.
Aurelian 275 A.D.
 
ifxf said:
Never understood why Apple Biometrics is secure enough to enter my financial sites but is not secure to access an Apple device after a reboot. Apple should provide an option to always allow biometrics.
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Your biometric information is stored encrypted in the secure enclave. The passcode is needed to decrypt it after reboot. If it wasn’t encrypted, it could be exfiltrated by someone stealing your device.
 
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klasma said:
Your biometric information is stored encrypted in the secure enclave. The passcode is needed to decrypt it after reboot. If it wasn’t encrypted, it could be exfiltrated by someone stealing your device.
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So the passcode isn’t stored in the enclave?
 
ifxf said:
Never understood why Apple Biometrics is secure enough to enter my financial sites but is not secure to access an Apple device after a reboot. Apple should provide an option to always allow biometrics.
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I thought the reason for the default back to the passcode (after even a few hours of my not using the phone) was due to the courts finding that users could be forced to open their devices using biometrics, but not passcodes. The high security crowd was pushing for the passcode default after that.
 
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