Psystar Case Comes to a Close as U.S. Supreme Court Declines Review

[KnightWRX]

Linux with nothing to copy.

It's not like Linux copied anything from Darwin.

And it's not like Apple has been the sole innovator all these years. You're exagerrating what a world without copyright would be like by quite a margin.

Heck, Apple might not have bought NeXT at all in your world, they might have just taken the OS.

 

[Wondercow]

BTW it is my concern.
I am using a diy pc because of this decision.

I find it really annoying.

I went out and got windows 7 because of this. I no longer own or will own an iMac due to this. I sold my 2010 macpro due to this.

They can charge me more the 1k. Just let me upgrade the gpu when I want to.

And I want Bic to make fountain pens. And McDonald's has lost my business because they won't sell me a t-bone steak with clarified butter-glazed carrots and an escargot appetizer. I will not but any more Ferraris until they meet the needs of the market--a 5-door hatchback compact with great gas milage!

This is all my concern; why do companies think that they have the right to decide what markets to enter and which products to sell?!

I gave you a minus basically because apple refuses to address a person that has a 40 to 65 inch tv and wants a headless unit for quality picture.

The mac mini is not good enough.

Really? My Mac Mini is doing great as an HTPC. It plays back my 1080p, 7.1 channel Blu-ray rips* just fine. And it does that while EyeTV is recording over-the-air HDTV broadcast TV** from four tuners (and potentially compressing previous recording for viewing on an iPad or iPhone). Not to mention that the same HTPC is also my iTunes music server.

I have a 1" thick top-of-the-line 55" full LED TV. And Apple has met my needs nicely.

*I absolutely do not re-compress my movies. I have over 14 TB of MKVs ripped from my Blu-rays, averaging about 30-35 GB per film
**OTA broadcasts are not compressed like on satellite or digital cable; most shows that I record come in at 18-19 Mbps

 

[Renzatic]

Actually, the customer wins. Assume that the laws were different and had always been different: That Psystar were allowed to sell computers with MacOS X against the wishes of Apple. Then obviously Dell and HP and Acer and Toshiba would be allowed to do the same thing (and I dare say they build better computers than Psystar with better service, so Psystar would have lost). Now go back twelve years. So Steve Jobs says "I have this brilliant idea. We buy the Next company for $400 million, then we take their OS, and spend a good billion dollars to turn it into an OS that gives us a competitive advantage, and we sell lots of computers and make lots of money". And Tim Cook's predecessor says "Excellent idea. There's just a problem, all our competiors can just sell computers with the same OS and we can do nothing about it, so that $1.5 bn will be wasted". Result: No MacOS X. Microsoft with nothing to either copy or to force them to innovate. Linux with nothing to copy. Whatever OS you would be using today, it would be rubbish compared to what you _are_ using.

What WRX said. But...

Don't think I wanted Psystar to have unfettered access to OSX to do with as they please. If Apple doesn't want to license out their OS and have it sold on machines beyond their control, that's their decision. They have that right.

What I was arguing was that I, if I wanted to, should be able to slap OSX onto any machine I want without any potential legal repercussions. As long as I pay for the software I'm using, and don't extend its use beyond my study, I see it as a completely victimless situation. Apple doesn't have to support it, nor do I don't expect them to, ut my attempts to goof around with their software for my personal use shouldn't be illegal (omg my neckbeard foss 4-eva).

...but I'm beginning to see it isn't quite as simple as that. When you start inserting exceptions into your license agreements, you risk introducing yourself to a ton of slippery slope type situations, where one little aside could end up spiraling the software you've made out of your control completely. All it takes is one person taking advantage of a poorly worded clause, and OSX is being sold on every machine under the sun.

So why I don't necessarily like the idea of being blocked from slapping whatever on whatever I want, I'm beginning to understand why. It sucks to be wrong, but it happens...occasionally.

And in the meantime, if I ever want to hackintosh...hell, I'll go out, buy a copy of OSX, and do it. I just can't view it as a legal grey area anymore.

 

[philipma1957]

And I want Bic to make fountain pens. And McDonald's has lost my business because they won't sell me a t-bone steak with clarified butter-glazed carrots and an escargot appetizer. I will not but any more Ferraris until they meet the needs of the market--a 5-door hatchback compact with great gas milage!

This is all my concern; why do companies think that they have the right to decide what markets to enter and which products to sell?!



Really? My Mac Mini is doing great as an HTPC. It plays back my 1080p, 7.1 channel Blu-ray rips* just fine. And it does that while EyeTV is recording over-the-air HDTV broadcast TV** from four tuners (and potentially compressing previous recording for viewing on an iPad or iPhone). Not to mention that the same HTPC is also my iTunes music server.

I have a 1" thick top-of-the-line 55" full LED TV. And Apple has met my needs nicely.

*I absolutely do not re-compress my movies. I have over 14 TB of MKVs ripped from my Blu-rays, averaging about 30-35 GB per film
**OTA broadcasts are not compressed like on satellite or digital cable; most shows that I record come in at 18-19 Mbps

hook up a decent pc and do an ab test of video quality in comparison to your mac mini .

Apple is meeting your needs with a mini because you have never seen what you are missing.

 

[pdjudd]

...but I'm beginning to see it isn't quite as simple as that. When you start inserting exceptions into your license agreements, you risk introducing yourself to a ton of slippery slope type situations, where one little aside could end up spiraling the software you've made out of your control completely. All it takes is one person taking advantage of a poorly worded clause, and OSX is being sold on every machine under the sun.

Very much so - Apple is very protective of it’s business and it’s assets - based on this, they are going to make sure that very few people can make a profit directly like that. They have to protect their IP from competitive threats on a commercial level. Apple doesn’t want to loose control of their OS like they did before when they signed a terrible agreement with MS back in the day. IBM lost control over the PC market the same way, by not controlling their valuable assets.

So why I don't necessarily like the idea of being blocked from slapping whatever on whatever I want, I'm beginning to understand why. It sucks to be wrong, but it happens...occasionally.

You are a rarity on these forums since you are willing to admit that you were wrong on an issue like that. Most people that make these arguments maintain their position on the level of religious fervor.

 

[Wondercow]

hook up a decent pc and do an ab test of video quality in comparison to your mac mini .

Apple is meeting your needs with a mini because you have never seen what you are missing.

All I care about is if the image sent from my HTPC matches the image sent from my Blu-ray player. Guess what? It's the same. If a PC's output looks different (be it better or worse) than that from a Mac then the PC isn't showing you what the director, studio, or mastering folks want you to see.

 

[AnonMac50]

Nope. All retail boxes of OS X required that you licensed a prior version.

Where in the EULA does it say that?

 

[BaldiMac]

Where in the EULA does it say that?

I don't have the exact quote, but whatever clause requires you to install it on a Mac. Every Mac comes with a licensed version of OS X.

 

[k2k koos]

Lol they may have had more success with that name.

I think you are the only one who noticed I spelled it that way, deliberately I must add, they were ripping Apple off, so I thought Spystar to be a better fit. LOL.