well I tried it and I could not get leapord to load on my pc 
was hoping this would work for me, but nothing
was hoping this would work for me, but nothing
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Psystar Releases 'Rebel EFI' Software to Enable Installation of Snow Leopard on PCs
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Also - when you say that, - you do realize, don't you, that Apple was actually sued over Sosumi by the Beatles - and it cost them $26.5 million.
DELL, ACER and Samsung don't invest R&D into their own Operating System.
DELL, ACER and Samsung contribute sparingly to the Linux Kernel if their choices in 3rd party parts are flaky running Linux.
Even then, they don't have skin in the game as they are all Windows OEM providers who see Linux as a niche not worth targeting over Windows.
there are two issues
Pystar creating software to allow the installation of MacOS X - this violates the DMCA.
A user installing OS X on non apple hardware, this violates the EULA.
If Pystar does the second before shipping the machine, they violate both.
You can't be serious. Do they give all of the profit from the millions of OSX copies sold to charity or something?
Apple makes most of its profit from hardware sales. But they still make a hell of a lot of money via OS sales too. And that's with a limited Mac userbase.
Definitely. I didn't say WHO would take action
The EFF would probably be willing to back the makers of the software which was allegedly stolen, though.Pystar Efi-x efforts to clone Macs
I second these comments totally as once Apple opted to go the i386 Intel route then this would happen. Apple are listening and the recent editions to the MacMini Imac and Macbook lines are showing a significant drop in price. Take the iMac i7 and a PC equivalent, I saw a Canadian post somewhere that compared the price to a i7 PC with comparable monitor and the new iMac and the price difference is not enormous. From my own perspective I am still hoping for a MiniPro with an option to install a processor mounted on a daughter board which would not harm sales of the more powerful MacPro.
I have no real thoughts on Pystar as Apple are looking after that problem, but what is far worse is the ASEM company that produces a very expensive internalUSB module(s) that manipulates EFI and allows users to run OSX, albeit with loads of shortcomings. It has been proven that ASEM have stolen OS86 code and GPL licences without acknowledgement, and even go to great lengths to hide the fact that their $200plus unit is no more than a cheap memory stick. They produce no manual, and have a forum with a search engine that does not work, while their customers are verbally abused by moderators and the owner of ASEM who appears to have a number of alias.
It could be argued that those who purchase such items deserve what they get, and in respect of Efix they certainly what they are deserving.
As stated Apple have the Pystar issue in hand, but it is the scam sites that rip software, package it and sell it with claims that they cannot fulfill that need to be shown up for what they are. I feel sad for the ASEM victims though that are mislead by that which is no more than a scam.
I would further imagine that Apple might not be too worried about the one off-ers who are breaking their EULA by installing OSX on non Apple hardware, as issues arise (and these are numerous) which are not Apple's problem. The introduction of Snow Leopard has made it much more difficult to have a fully functional system on non Apple hardware.
The recent sales details speak for themselves, people who want reliability and quality will always follow the correct route.
Legalities aside, it doesn't bother me. Just so long as:
1. Apple's not forced to spend time/money offering any support to hardware that their product was not designed for.
2. Apple's not forced to spend time/money and delay future OS releases to accommodate and test for all the chaos of hardware out there.
3. Apple's not forced to implement any kind of piracy-deterence, license checking or serial numbers, to enforce that non-Mac owners must pay a full price for OS X, while the rest of us can continue to pay lower costs as upgrades (since we already have an initial license that came with our Macs). What would a "full" price for OS X be, if everything we've bought so far is an upgrade? I guess that's up to Apple.
and 4. Apple's reputation for quality doesn't take an underserved hit (in the press or in the market) just due to problems exclusive to NON-Apple hardware.
I'm not worried about 1 & 2 unless some court does something really crazy that forces Apple to spend a ton of money helping others profit from Apple's work.
And I'm not expecting Apple to be too worried about #3 unless hackintoshes become commonplace and cut into sales of real Macs. I doubt that will happen--the masses of everyday computer buyers won't be doing this.
But #4... that's Apple's problem--doesn't really affect me
I second these comments totally as once Apple opted to go the i386 Intel route then this would happen. Apple are listening and the recent editions to the MacMini Imac and Macbook lines are showing a significant drop in price. Take the iMac i7 and a PC equivalent, I saw a Canadian post somewhere that compared the price to a i7 PC with comparable monitor and the new iMac and the price difference is not enormous. From my own perspective I am still hoping for a MiniPro with an option to install a processor mounted on a daughter board which would not harm sales of the more powerful MacPro.
I have no real thoughts on Pystar as Apple are looking after that problem, but what is far worse is the ASEM company that produces a very expensive internalUSB module(s) that manipulates EFI and allows users to run OSX, albeit with loads of shortcomings. It has been proven that ASEM have stolen OS86 code and GPL licences without acknowledgement, and even go to great lengths to hide the fact that their $200plus unit is no more than a cheap memory stick. They produce no manual, and have a forum with a search engine that does not work, while their customers are verbally abused by moderators and the owner of ASEM who appears to have a number of alias.
It could be argued that those who purchase such items deserve what they get, and in respect of Efix they certainly what they are deserving.
As stated Apple have the Pystar issue in hand, but it is the scam sites that rip software, package it and sell it with claims that they cannot fulfill that need to be shown up for what they are. I feel sad for the ASEM victims though that are mislead by that which is no more than a scam.
I would further imagine that Apple might not be too worried about the one off-ers who are breaking their EULA by installing OSX on non Apple hardware, as issues arise (and these are numerous) which are not Apple's problem. The introduction of Snow Leopard has made it much more difficult to have a fully functional system on non Apple hardware.
The recent sales details speak for themselves, people who want reliability and quality will always follow the correct route.
Why wait? you can download it from the Psystar website. It needs an activation code to work for more than 2 hours, but that will show up eventually.
I'm pretty sure Psystar is doing the same thing as this ASEM company you speak of (obfuscating and re-selling the work of the OSx86 project), and I think Apple's targeting them because they're selling computers capable of running OS X. I don't think Apple really cares all that much if you or I use EFI-X or something similar to run OS X on our non-Apple hardware - if they did, they probably would have gone after the OSx86 project long ago. I think they just take issue when people are making money off of it. At the moment, Psystar is the bigger target compared to ASEM (I'd never heard of ASEM before your post).
Funny how everyone on here condemns the use of torrents until it's something against Apple then the attitude suddenly changes.
That's merely the paradigm that it is morally acceptable to steal from a thief.
Sorry, but all you paid for was a limited use license. If you want unlimited rights, you'll have to be willing to pay to own: Got $100B handy? That might be enough money to convince Apple to sell you Leopard.
Utterly irrelevant, particularly since ~75% of sales now are laptops.
The legal standard is merely "Reasonable Doubt", and as such, if Psystar is trying to say "My Dog Ate It" to what was months and months worth of business receipts, this absence can be deemed legally adequate to constitute an effective proof of a negative. Its an interesting situation where the Law can differ from the rules of classical science.
FWIW, I would certainly expect that if Psystar is taken down via DCMA, then the IP address of every purchaser is going to be found through discovery, and this all may play out with the DCMA doing the dirtywork for Apple.
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To all you people who tried it and asking "what gives?".
It is obvious you need a computer built to apple specs so the drivers work. Any other hardware will be a crap shoot to get running.
It is obvious you need a computer built to apple specs so the drivers work. Any other hardware will be a crap shoot to get running.
Because they are doing it legally and you are running it with an application that is approved by Apples SLA so you get support.
Just because people are so cheap (they take their dates out to a hot dog stand) and don't want to pay for something that's better... let them deal with their own problems he he!
PC's SUCK!
Doing that would open Apple to the same problem MS has - no way to ensure their OS will work on all the various hardware combination end users may have; the tech support burden could very well overwhelm any additional profit from OS sales.
OTOh, they could simply ignore Pystar and when end users call for support simply say "Sorry, we support Apple hardware only." Of course, every bad user experience weakens their brand and is potentially a lost sale of a Mac as users blame Apple, not the hardware.
Doesn't work for me. Bummer.
Tried it on a laptop and two desktops. All three get to the Apple splash screen and then get the 'no' symbol.
C'mon Psystar, I'm dying to give you my $$$.
At the very least, the hillarious Apple fanboy butt-hurt in this thread overshadowed my dissappointment with Psystar. Epic stuff!
Tried it on a laptop and two desktops. All three get to the Apple splash screen and then get the 'no' symbol.
C'mon Psystar, I'm dying to give you my $$$.
At the very least, the hillarious Apple fanboy butt-hurt in this thread overshadowed my dissappointment with Psystar. Epic stuff!
I managed to run OS X in a P4, but it was an old 10.4 release, obviously modified to boot in non-apple environments.
Not sure how "Rebel-EFI" works.
Try it in a newer PC, let us now the results.
(now that I see your signature, how is Linux running on your PS3? I've been meaning to install it on my PS3 just for **** and giggles, you know)
Yeh go on give em your $$$. Sucker
That's what everyone said when I went to the Apple store to buy an iPhone. I sure proved them wrong with the reliable network, rock solid stability, and advanced features like MMS and tethering.
...oh wait.
It actually does have legal precedence...
Source:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...odesk-affirms-right-to-sell-used-software.ars
Apple DOES make money on OS sales if they sell 10.000.000 more copies. Even for $29.
