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Publishers Not Making Much Money From Apple News+
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Completely agree ruins the experience.
I just can't pay for news. I have enough stuff to pay for in subscription for these days, it's draining to say the least. On top of that if I need news I just do a quick scroll on a few subreddits to find something that catches my eye or not, beyond that I try to stay away from news. Most of it isn't needed (celeb news for example) and most of it is pretty toxic and stressful to read these days. I see what I have to so i'm informed on whats needed but stay away as much as possible. I'd rather put the money towards Apple Music and jam good feeling tunes to keep my mood up rather than down
Well, I for one am SHOCKED /s
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correct. If come across the magazine as a PDF, I refuse to read it.
I for one love Apple News+. However, I theorize the problem that Apple’s seeing with it are not in content or price but rather in the UI and UX. The user interface is a cluttered mess and, like Apple Music, it’s not clear how to navigate or turn off/on certain features. Apple needs to rethink the UI and UX, which will in turn make it easier for them to show value to consumers within the app.
Hint: it has nothing to do with the interface. It's the whole concept that's flawed.
"One told Business Insider that revenue was one twentieth of what Apple promised"
That's fair. I'm getting about one twentieth the value I was promised from it.
That's fair. I'm getting about one twentieth the value I was promised from it.
Amongst other things, I’m a musician... In an Apple ecosystem... Apple Music was a no-brainer. And it has really delivered. Sure, I’d love to see more liner notes and production info that you might find on a vinyl sleeve (who the musicians are that played on the album, who produced, where was it recorded, etc.). Still, Apple Music has played a significant role in helping me reconnect with music in an incredibly meaningful way - for which I am truly grateful.
While I have managed to move to News as my one-stop news aggregate, I have yet to see a reason to jump into +. And I can’t imagine what would see me doing so. News isn’t music. There are just too many places to get the same news. It’s not like News+ can change the fact that people somehow stopped valuing facts. And unlike music, news is not near as intimate a commodity.
It doesn’t feel like we’ll see News+ gain traction over time. Guessing it is gone in 3 years (hello Ping). But I could be way off. Wouldn’t be the first time.
While I have managed to move to News as my one-stop news aggregate, I have yet to see a reason to jump into +. And I can’t imagine what would see me doing so. News isn’t music. There are just too many places to get the same news. It’s not like News+ can change the fact that people somehow stopped valuing facts. And unlike music, news is not near as intimate a commodity.
It doesn’t feel like we’ll see News+ gain traction over time. Guessing it is gone in 3 years (hello Ping). But I could be way off. Wouldn’t be the first time.
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...or maybe it's the content? We no longer have to sift thru opinionated, curated publications in hopes of finding something we're interested in. It's much easier to just search for what you're interested in and get the information you're looking for.
If you know what you're looking for. I like to read magazines to see what there is. I don't know what I'm looking for. I'm never really looking for anything specific.
I don't read magazines for news. I do it for various topics.
I've had several subscriptions over the years to various science, history and archeology magazines. WWII magazine. Various beer brewing magazines. I get a NW Marijuana magazine with info you can't get anywhere else, profiles on people and stores. I can find stuff related to most of these topics online but not the exact articles. It's not the same.
I like magazines. The experience is completely different. Most younger people I don't think get that.
I want specifics....don’t make a strawman argument...address the points I specifically addressed.
I just can't pay for news. I have enough stuff to pay for in subscription for these days, it's draining to say the least. On top of that if I need news I just do a quick scroll on a few subreddits to find something that catches my eye or not, beyond that I try to stay away from news. Most of it isn't needed (celeb news for example) and most of it is pretty toxic and stressful to read these days. I see what I have to so i'm informed on whats needed but stay away as much as possible. I'd rather put the money towards Apple Music and jam good feeling tunes to keep my mood up rather than down
I've stopped reading most of the news. Why read the news when I can't really do anything about it?! It's better to be uninformed than to be misinformed.
May be that is the problem? Why did Apple think Apple Music was good enough in its first release. Well we have Iovine to blame for this "next" song BS. So what about Apple News?
Apple isn't Facebook, or Google, or Microsoft which operate on this break fast ship fast mentality and constantly shipping junk and then decide to kill it. First impression Matters, and if it wasn't for Apple most people wouldn't even give Apple Music a second chance. Even the MacRumors Editor canceled Apple News after trying it out.
So I am so glad it failed. I hope it fail faster, along with TV content.
Agreed. Apple gets 50% which leaves $5 divided among 300 publishers. I’m not a math major but even I can see that doesn’t add up to much money. These publications are going to have to sell adds inside their Apple News subscribe to make anything. Which would make me unsub IF I were to even see the need to subscribe, which I haven’t.
#4 Eddy Cue’s hands all over it. Lucky he knows where the bodies are buried and he can get away with another train wreck on his watch.
Math can’t be changed simply by listening. Math is math. 50% to Apple means $5 divided by 300 publishers which equals pretty much nothing. Will AN succeed? I certainly wouldn’t bet against it, but the prices will have to change or Apple will have to find a way to increase subscriptions in a massive way.
Maybe reduce the price to $6.99 but keep the content providers' take at $5? Right now I use the basic news service only on my phone as my original iPad mini doesn't support recent versions of iOS. I may subscribe when I get a new iPad which would be a better reading platform. Paid news is higher quality than is most general news you see on the web (speciality sites like macrumors are thenexception).
Does any digital newspaper/magazine app make big money or is this just an Apple News problem? Is this also do to teething problems that need to be sorted out over time? I'm sure critics love to call anything Apple does a failure if it doesn't work out almost immediately. Sort of like AppleWatch being called a failure the first month after it was introduced.
Why are you arguing over this point? It’s like someone saying “the sky is blue,” and because you’re too lazy to go outside to look up, you just reply with “prove it for me.” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ll help. Quick Bing search—
The estimated aggregate revenue of U.S. based periodical publishers has fallen sharply in the past decade from 46 billion U.S. dollars in 2007 to around 28 billion in 2017. Americans spent an average of 24 minutes reading magazines on a daily basis in 2010. This figure is forecast to decline to 15 minutes by 2018. Although the time spent with magazines is declining, the number of magazine readers in the U.S. has seen a slight increased since 2012. The number of magazines in the U.S. has also stayed fairly constant over the years, varying from around 7,100 to 7,300 since 2008.
Do you need me to help with proving newspaper readership is declining as well?
Last time I paid for a magazine, in any format, was 2014. I was in the airport, my hour and half flight didn’t have WiFi, and amazon prime and Netflix downloading wasn’t a thing yet. All you had was iTunes which cost $5 to 10 per episode or movie. So I bought two fishing magazines and motor trend. Out of the hundred or so pages, maybe 15 were worth the paper it was printed on.