Yeah - until they get the NYT and WaPo on their service, it just won't be happening for me.
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Isn’t that what Apple is doing with their latest candidate guide for the 2020 Democratic debates feature?
It appears that Apple has hired a team of editors to sift through the content produced by third-party news organizations and pick out what they think are the most valuable posts, articles, and content for Apple News readers.
This is in contrast to Facebook, which simply relies on algorithms, and we have seen where that has led us.
This is also probably why news is so slow to roll out to other countries. It’s not easy to scale this sort of framework. But Apple isn’t just publishing an app and calling it a day. There’s a lot of backend work and if this ever comes to Singapore, consider me subscribed.
Apple News+ is working out for me. I canceled my print magazines and went all digital through News+. The convenience of iPhone and iPad has me reading more articles from those magazines (and other publications) than before. I think the only way for publishers to make more $ is to gain net new customers because folks like me were already subscribers now accessing content through a new, more convenient but also more economical channel.
I concur that there are a lot of sources to obtain free news. I will use myself as an example, I deleted AppleNews as I found it distracting with several news sites reporting on the same topic. Instead I just downloaded the new site app that I preferred they reporting style and bingo, free news that I can customize from a single source. Some people may agree and other disagree, as this news source is public funded, my tax dollars are supporting it, similar to a local town paper. Does it have some adverts, indeed but not enough that it is bothersome.
AppleNews would provide the same article from various sources, can I customize it sure, but I want AppleNews to be smart enough to know not to present the same article I read however by another source. I read the article on one site, I have the gist of it, I don’t need to read the same thing again, unless there is an update.
I am glad I deleted it. Strange thing was that I was looking forward to it’s introduction in Canada and it was a letdown.
Well, I think the service is fantastic.
Consuming this stuff in News is superior to the apps these publishers have been using -- which have been little more than platform independent, lowest common denominator abominations.
As far as making the publishers happy, I think Apple should use that cash hoard to pay (MUCH) bigger up front lump sums to these guys to lock their content into News and only News (or their paid InApp Subs) -- no more free content, no ads. That will lure more publishers and make News+ more valuable to new and existing subscribers
Consuming this stuff in News is superior to the apps these publishers have been using -- which have been little more than platform independent, lowest common denominator abominations.
As far as making the publishers happy, I think Apple should use that cash hoard to pay (MUCH) bigger up front lump sums to these guys to lock their content into News and only News (or their paid InApp Subs) -- no more free content, no ads. That will lure more publishers and make News+ more valuable to new and existing subscribers
It’s just text with pictures. Why can’t this simply be websites? I honestly don’t see a point to it all. They work and look better and are more engaging on mobile? What? Mobile-first news and articles have been a thing for many years now.
"One told Business Insider that revenue was one twentieth of what Apple promised, while another said that it was on par with what was earned from Texture, which isn't much."
One business to another. If Apple can't get it right, who can?
I remember when people subscribed to 12 month issue of Amiga magazines back in the day... Now THAT was sales.
One business to another. If Apple can't get it right, who can?
I remember when people subscribed to 12 month issue of Amiga magazines back in the day... Now THAT was sales.
Flib also uses magazine-style interface and sometimes diverted me to a paid site with ironclad paywall such as WSJ.
Pocket site also recommended news from WSJ BUT with special deal like $1 for first 3 months attached to the news articles.
Apple should have studied others in and out, I suppose Apple overestimated its existing clientele.
Pocket site also recommended news from WSJ BUT with special deal like $1 for first 3 months attached to the news articles.
Apple should have studied others in and out, I suppose Apple overestimated its existing clientele.
You can have the fake news sites, but I'd like something OTHER than NYT and WaPo.
Why not let me choose? Provide Washington Times and Investor's Business Daily as options.
I don't think I should have to pay for your news. Unless you're willing to let me be on the editorial board. If I have input into what they do/do not print, if I can slap down articles with dodgy or no legitimate source, and if I have the ability to fire anybody from the fake news fiction authors (reporters) to the delivery truck drivers, then we could discuss an arrangement. But I already have a job that probably pays better. A job I need so that I can pay my higher tax bill and fund our town's fake news dispensary too.
Puh-lease! What is with the last 5 people in the world and the NYT/LAT/WaPo? Seriously folks, they all report the same fake news and they even say their lies in the SAME WAY. This is why they're all failing. It's because most people now see through their fakeness and are leaving in droves! They are lazy and they are failing, even with their paywalls.
You’re not the only one. I don’t think what the publishers thought they’d make from this. Let alone what Apple said they’d make.
I don't think I should have to pay for your news. Unless you're willing to let me be on the editorial board. If I have input into what they do/do not print, if I can slap down articles with dodgy or no legitimate source, and if I have the ability to fire anybody from the fake news fiction authors (reporters) to the delivery truck drivers, then we could discuss an arrangement. But I already have a job that probably pays better. A job I need so that I can pay my higher tax bill and fund our town's fake news dispensary too.
The specific news network is publicly funded, similar to roads, bridges infrastructure, healthcare, etc. Though I may not use some of those it does not mean it is not of a benefit to others. In the event that I may need it one day, I am reassured it is available.
How do I know I am getting unbiased road or bridge maintenance treatment funding, public healthcare, etc. How do I know just because I am paying for private healthcare I am not being taken to the cleaners.
Let’s not be near-sighted on these things and let selfishness consume us to save a buck. If you don’t like it, live on an island and don’t ask for help when you cannot afford to.
I'm merely suggesting that your way for the last 50 years isn't working and that we probably could get a good start in reducing incompetency (and increasing freedom and liberty by the way) by reducing government involvement in just about everything. That is not selfishness, it is LOVE for my country and my fellow citizens.
But with bridge collapses and near-catastrophes in dams in the last few years, I am proposing that we at least think about having somebody ELSE check the bridges you and I drive over and under on our way to work each morning. If we can't reduce government incompetence, then we should do the next best thing and reduce government involvement.
I pay over 40% of all my income in various taxes to support inefficient (and sometimes downright dangerous) government programs. I SHOULD get some say in this. I surely have paid for it many times over.
But with bridge collapses and near-catastrophes in dams in the last few years, I am proposing that we at least think about having somebody ELSE check the bridges you and I drive over and under on our way to work each morning. If we can't reduce government incompetence, then we should do the next best thing and reduce government involvement.
I pay over 40% of all my income in various taxes to support inefficient (and sometimes downright dangerous) government programs. I SHOULD get some say in this. I surely have paid for it many times over.
While I concur that we all pay too much in income taxes, and the need for more efficient and competent processes, rather than complain on a forum take action. I support what you are saying, however there are other mechanisms in place that you may not be familiar with. Is the system perfect, no. Does it work, sort of. Is it getting worse, hard to say. Do I agree that Human Right is a problem everywhere including USA, yes I do. Are people waking up to the problem, by your response to this issue I believe yes.
I love the Earth, because as any nation it does not reside in a self-contained bubble it is shared with other nations. The air we breath, the water we drink the land we pollute will eventually make it’s way to other countries. Country boarders are a human made mechanism to territorial dominance, we forget an invasive species does not care who own what land, it looks to it’s fundamental requirements to sustain it’s life and procreate.
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I believe the poster means “crappy” of the systems in-place. Not necessarily Earth. Considering what are their comparing Earth to, as to have the opinion that it is crappy. I fear this individual has ever lived in any other form other than capitalism.
Don’t want right wing news. Don’t want left wing news. Both of those are just agenda-biased opinions of actual news. I want raw news. Tell me what is happening and leave the interpretation to me. Anything else is of no interest to me.
Apple News+ is...whelming. Just that. Whelming. Some publications are well presented, while others are just scanned PDFs. There's a great deal of inconsistency between them. Apple should be working with every publication evenly to help them create a consistent, easy-to-read layout that closely matches the print version, but that has been adapted for the modern conveniences of digital viewing (think eBooks).
I'm disappointed to hear the number of people around here who apparently believe that journalists don't deserve to be paid for their work. Good journalism takes time, effort, and often puts the journalists into a lot of personal danger. Free sites often get their news from the paid ones. The ones that don't are often low quality, filled with sensationalism and hyperbole, and lack any real substance. There's an argument to be made for bias, but bias exists on every news site. Like with anything else, you have to read them--and by them I mean the whole article and not just the headline--with a critical eye, understand the framework with which they are presented, and read multiple news sources to try and get as full a picture as possible. You can, and should, of course, have your own opinion, and be willing to modify that opinion based on new information you acquire.
I'm disappointed to hear the number of people around here who apparently believe that journalists don't deserve to be paid for their work. Good journalism takes time, effort, and often puts the journalists into a lot of personal danger. Free sites often get their news from the paid ones. The ones that don't are often low quality, filled with sensationalism and hyperbole, and lack any real substance. There's an argument to be made for bias, but bias exists on every news site. Like with anything else, you have to read them--and by them I mean the whole article and not just the headline--with a critical eye, understand the framework with which they are presented, and read multiple news sources to try and get as full a picture as possible. You can, and should, of course, have your own opinion, and be willing to modify that opinion based on new information you acquire.
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Which is why so many news articles are now apparently written by kids, with a lack of grammar and spelling skills, who simply copy from each other badly with next to no knowledge of the topic.
I suspect a bigger problem would be the small market for unbiased news stories. The media likes to tell their target audience what they want to hear.
Nope! He had nothing to do with it, he was away racing around in a Ferrari. Oh wait...
Why?
Apple developed and is providing as well as maintaining the platform as well as the servers and entire back end that runs the service, this is NOT FREE and Apple is giving access to a subscription base these companies would not otherwise have easy access to. Yet you expect Apple to do this for free? Why?!
Do you work for free? Do you give products you made away for free? Do you pay for expensive hardware and invest in staff to program and maintain a system for free?
The problem is not Apple’s cut, the problem is the entire news industry is in a downfall with massive competition from other sources. There is no easy fix to the problem here and everyone will need to work together to develop solutions.