Puppy was treated as a football
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wdlove
macrumors P6
Chip NoVaMac said:
I agree that the potential is there, but it doesn't mean that they will. It is just something that is often found when doing a history on a criminal. Ti also happens with sexual predators, then often have a history of sexual abuse as children. It is all just so sad.
Chip NoVaMac
macrumors G3
wdlove said:I agree that the potential is there, but it doesn't mean that they will. It is just something that is often found when doing a history on a criminal. Ti also happens with sexual predators, then often have a history of sexual abuse as children. It is all just so sad.
Thank you, that is what I meant. It was not to say that they would go that far as adults.
Today i had to take my dog to the local pet store for his shots, and there were people there that seemed like they really weren't taking very good care of their animals even if they were getting them the required shots, there were some guys that were probably in their low 20's with a pit-bulls that they were dragging out side that seemed very violent, even those kind of dogs can be ill-tempered, if they took care of them they could be very friendly. I just wish all people could treat their animals as well as I treat my dog even though he may be a bit spoiled.
comictimes
macrumors 6502a
Stupid language filter... if it weren't for that, I would have quite a few choice words to say in relation to those kids...
I really don't understand, though, how it you could make yourself do something like that. I mean, with plenty of horribly atrocious things that people do, if I work hard enough, I can begin to understand what made them do it. But with something like this, it's completely inconcievable to me.
Stupid f***ing brats....
I really don't understand, though, how it you could make yourself do something like that. I mean, with plenty of horribly atrocious things that people do, if I work hard enough, I can begin to understand what made them do it. But with something like this, it's completely inconcievable to me.
Stupid f***ing brats....
takao
macrumors 68040
Brettla said:
yeah i remember when new neighbours moved in their new house a few years ago they had an agressive dog who was barking all night long for about 2 weeks and during the day he sometimes attacked people who passed the street 30 meters away from the house (in our street there is an elemetary /middle school so every day hundreds of kids/teenager passed the house)
typical case of mistrained dog..and with myself being nearly biten in my right foot when i was riding my bike i wasn't really in tears when police took action after 2 weeks
on topic: wasn't there a case about some guys who used a small dog for 'punting' as well a few months ago ?
Hemingray
macrumors 68030
wdlove
macrumors P6
Speaking of football here is another sad story that caused an injury duing hazing.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/09/17/nine_players_suspended_in_football_hazing_injury/
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/09/17/nine_players_suspended_in_football_hazing_injury/
King Cobra
macrumors 603
All right, a few things. First, I am able to find words to express what I feel after reading through the two initial puppy stories, so that means this post might seem overboard. Second, just reading the title of the thread makes me want to kill someone. Third, the 13 year old that did essentially destroy the puppy's future has no developed understanding or respect for morals, much less, no respect for the potential of the life of a household pet that serves as a source of future positive memories. I've determined that puppies are so cherished among almost everyone because they best resemble the positive childhood memories that a person has with stuffed animals. So treating a puppy as he did shows just how little (if at all) caring he has about wanting to remember his past childhood memories of stuffed animals. It also shows that he doesn't want to care about remembering any linkage between the innocence of stuffed animals and his childhood caring and relationship with them, and the innocence of a real animal that so closely resembles his childhood memories.
Fourth, I'm willing to bet that the 13 year old is aware of the puppy's injuries, but, at the time the puppy was in his control, he forced himself to think otherwise, and I'm willing to bet that he's reflecting back on the damages he's done to the puppy and the puppy's loss as a result of his actions. I bet you that his consciousness has kicked his memory back to the reality of his childhood memories with stuffed animals and sharing his emotions of innocence, only now, to a far greater amplitude due to knowing what real, physical damage he has done to the puppy. So the 13-year-old was, at the time, apathetic, cruel, puppy-destructive, memory-destructive, self-destructive, and seriously ignorant to set his state of mind away from the reality of physical destruction to a puppy, something that resembles well cherished and personal childhood memories. As Hemingray said, he should be forced to look at that picture for the rest of eternity, as that will further destroy the boy's own mental stability in terms of being able to establish positive memories in his future, and hence, make the boy feel like his life isn't worth living.
Fifth, I can't even go back to those articles to dwell on the details of the injuries and the ultimate consequence. It's so sickening and, more accurately, so disruptive to my imagination to have such an image with its related components (the injuries and consequence) burned in my mind in detail.
Sixth, about the hazing article: Big deal. That's far more commonplace than dog cruelty, and it's most likely not going to be as memory-based as the puppy article(s) in terms of magnitude.
Finally, for the love of Jeff, no more saddening current events like this!
Fourth, I'm willing to bet that the 13 year old is aware of the puppy's injuries, but, at the time the puppy was in his control, he forced himself to think otherwise, and I'm willing to bet that he's reflecting back on the damages he's done to the puppy and the puppy's loss as a result of his actions. I bet you that his consciousness has kicked his memory back to the reality of his childhood memories with stuffed animals and sharing his emotions of innocence, only now, to a far greater amplitude due to knowing what real, physical damage he has done to the puppy. So the 13-year-old was, at the time, apathetic, cruel, puppy-destructive, memory-destructive, self-destructive, and seriously ignorant to set his state of mind away from the reality of physical destruction to a puppy, something that resembles well cherished and personal childhood memories. As Hemingray said, he should be forced to look at that picture for the rest of eternity, as that will further destroy the boy's own mental stability in terms of being able to establish positive memories in his future, and hence, make the boy feel like his life isn't worth living.
Fifth, I can't even go back to those articles to dwell on the details of the injuries and the ultimate consequence. It's so sickening and, more accurately, so disruptive to my imagination to have such an image with its related components (the injuries and consequence) burned in my mind in detail.
Sixth, about the hazing article: Big deal. That's far more commonplace than dog cruelty, and it's most likely not going to be as memory-based as the puppy article(s) in terms of magnitude.
Finally, for the love of Jeff, no more saddening current events like this!
latergator116
macrumors 68000
I hope these kids get proper punishment(Since those stupid teens soaked a tortoise and lizard in bleach, they should get soaked in bleach. Seems fair to me.) : http://www.turnto10.com/news/3733032/detail.html
: http://www.turnto10.com/news/3733032/detail.html King Cobra
macrumors 603
cslewis
macrumors 6502a
My god, that's disgusting. Why on earth would anyone even think of doing such a thing? Being a thirteen-year old, I can tell you that the teens who commited such an atrocity don't deserve to see the light of day again.
Speaking of pet problems, my guinea pig has delevoped some sort of skin condition that resembles severe dandruff. Any suggestions for care? He is getting weekly baths and special lotion, and so far that has not helped.
Speaking of pet problems, my guinea pig has delevoped some sort of skin condition that resembles severe dandruff. Any suggestions for care? He is getting weekly baths and special lotion, and so far that has not helped.
rainman::|:|
macrumors 603
My guess is that your guinea pig has skin mites. Tea tree oil applied to the skin can help with this. A vet would be a wise visit, however... skin mites usually require medication.
PETA has been running a campaign for a while, citing the connections between childhood animal cruelty and future violent behaviour. The idea is, lock these kids up and get a psychologist in there quick, if they're showing signs of animal abuse. PETA is actually a really great organization, but most people laugh them off. Well, they're one of the few organizations that takes on these situations directly... whether it's a puppy being kicked to death, or elephants in a circus trained with blowtorches or chickens stomped to death for KFC. If you all really do have such compassion for these animals, stick up for PETA when they get bashed. Toss them a $5 donation. So people will think you're a bit of a liberal-*****, at least you'll be doing the right thing.
paul
PETA has been running a campaign for a while, citing the connections between childhood animal cruelty and future violent behaviour. The idea is, lock these kids up and get a psychologist in there quick, if they're showing signs of animal abuse. PETA is actually a really great organization, but most people laugh them off. Well, they're one of the few organizations that takes on these situations directly... whether it's a puppy being kicked to death, or elephants in a circus trained with blowtorches or chickens stomped to death for KFC. If you all really do have such compassion for these animals, stick up for PETA when they get bashed. Toss them a $5 donation. So people will think you're a bit of a liberal-*****, at least you'll be doing the right thing.
paul
Abstract
macrumors Penryn
I agree completely. I actually quite like PETA, but I'd feel like a hypocrite if I spoke up any louder, as I'm not a vegan. I think you'd be a vegan if you were a true supporter.
I've given up on eggs and milk, and may give up on pork soon, but that's really not the same thing. I looove steaks.
I've given up on eggs and milk, and may give up on pork soon, but that's really not the same thing. I looove steaks.
homerjward
macrumors 68030
lol, sounds like one of my friends whose a vegan and pulls up to school every day in his dad's caddy with a full leather interior, or this Hindu guy i saw today in front of compusa putting his cpu into the back of expeditioneddie bauer while wearing a leather jacket....although that's being hypocritical of me. i love meat/eggs/milk of all kinds and could never have the will power or anything to be a vegetarian
wdlove
macrumors P6
Abstract said:I agree completely. I actually quite like PETA, but I'd feel like a hypocrite if I spoke up any louder, as I'm not a vegan. I think you'd be a vegan if you were a true supporter.
I've given up on eggs and milk, and may give up on pork soon, but that's really not the same thing. I looove steaks.
Pork happens to be healthier for you than steak. As long as the steak is lean and you only have it once a week then that's OK.
okay..
As a child I had a small problem with abusing animals. I wouldn't necessarily do severe damage to them but there was this inescapable psychological problem where I would try to hurt them, like squeeze their necks, and I felt some sort of small thrill about it...Like a sense of power, I could actually put the life of another animal into jeopardy. I was sent to a child psychotherapist and he said that I wasn't alone and that more and more children are experiencing this type of problem. Children, being young and unexperienced with moral reasoning are also easy victims to mob mentality so it's also kind of easy to see how this problem could escalate.
I'm nineteen now and I could never think of hurting a spider (who keeps my home clean and free of pests) let alone a cute lil puppy. ^_^
I think the parents should be rightly punished, it's this negligent parenting and letting your kids grow up on the media that causes these things. Yes, my parents were negligent and abusive. I do not live with them anymore.
As a child I had a small problem with abusing animals. I wouldn't necessarily do severe damage to them but there was this inescapable psychological problem where I would try to hurt them, like squeeze their necks, and I felt some sort of small thrill about it...Like a sense of power, I could actually put the life of another animal into jeopardy. I was sent to a child psychotherapist and he said that I wasn't alone and that more and more children are experiencing this type of problem. Children, being young and unexperienced with moral reasoning are also easy victims to mob mentality so it's also kind of easy to see how this problem could escalate.
I'm nineteen now and I could never think of hurting a spider (who keeps my home clean and free of pests) let alone a cute lil puppy. ^_^
I think the parents should be rightly punished, it's this negligent parenting and letting your kids grow up on the media that causes these things. Yes, my parents were negligent and abusive. I do not live with them anymore.
wdlove
macrumors P6
iluze said:
I think that you should have pride in yourself for realizing that you had a problem. Then you did something about the problem and successfully found treatment. Your example shows that there is hope if a person is willing to try.
At nineteen you have a very adult attitude.
Chip NoVaMac
macrumors G3
wdlove said:I think that you should have pride in yourself for realizing that you had a problem. Then you did something about the problem and successfully found treatment. Your example shows that there is hope if a person is willing to try.
At nineteen you have a very adult attitude.
Amen to that.
And a big thanks for sharing such a personal detail goes to iluze.
MacAztec
macrumors 68040
This story is sad, but...
I started laughing because it reminded me of a person i saw on the road today. I started busting up when I saw this person, check it out...
It was a HARDCORE PETA FREAK, with a license of LUVPETA or some crap. Then the person had all these animal abuse stickers all over the car. Not only that, the person had rainbows and stuff (which meant they were homosexual). I didnt know if i wanted to feel bad or just laugh.
I started laughing because it reminded me of a person i saw on the road today. I started busting up when I saw this person, check it out...
It was a HARDCORE PETA FREAK, with a license of LUVPETA or some crap. Then the person had all these animal abuse stickers all over the car. Not only that, the person had rainbows and stuff (which meant they were homosexual). I didnt know if i wanted to feel bad or just laugh.
