PurpleRa1n or Redsnow?

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by cusco, Sep 26, 2009.

  1. cusco macrumors member

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    for the 3Gs version, i see on iclarified that there's two options to use: purplera1n or redsnow.

    which one is the most prefered? and which would be the most stable?

    i have the OS 3.0 version.

    i don't wanna end up bricking my phone... so any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

    p.s. i thought i had the 3G version, till my bro called me today asking if i figured out what my surprise was. the phone i got from him was a 3Gs after all. 32GB worth of storage. i feel so stupid.. board members, please forgive my stupidity with apple stuff. :(
     
  2. angemon89 macrumors 68000

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    If you're on firmware 3.1 you can't use either. But redsn0w is what you should use.
     
  3. cusco thread starter macrumors member

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    sorry to add that to my original thread. i have the FW 3.0.
     
  4. jmann macrumors 604

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    I would use redsn0w. It is made by the Dev Team, and purplera1n is the same thing almost just by some guy. The Dev Team has made way more software than he has (not that that makes a difference) but I've always used the Dev Team's software, so I have no reason to change. :)
     
  5. cusco thread starter macrumors member

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    cool beans. just waiting to DL the FW for the 3Gs and then hopefully i can JB and unlock tonight.
     
  6. hidehide macrumors 6502

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    But purplera1n is made by geohotz, who made the FIRST jailbreak for iphone
    and also the first jailbreak for 3gs

    However, iPhone Dev Team release more version and more support.

    Both will work.
    But I would recommend you to upgrade to 3.0.1 and use redsn0w
     
  7. cusco thread starter macrumors member

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    why upgrade to 3.0.1 first? any benefit in doing so?

    also, how do i upgrade it to 3.0.1; i can get the FW from iclarified right?
     
  8. jmann macrumors 604

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    This is from the Dev Team blog about purplera1n vs. ultrasnow, pretty interesting:

    and my favorite part. :D

    Back to business.

    If you are scared about the "SMS exploit" (which is absolutely ridiculous) then you should update to 3.0.1, other than that, it's the same as 3.0. :)
     
  9. cusco thread starter macrumors member

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    what's this SMS exploit you are refering to? also, how do i upgrade to the 3.0.1 version of the fw? do i put the phone into DFU and then shift + restore and load the 3.0.1 FW for 3Gs?
     
  10. jmann macrumors 604

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    It is a hack that people could "possibly" hack into your phone and get info or control it or some BS like that. But no one ever reported it happening, and that's why Apple was rushed to release that 3.0.1 update. You have the updating with DFU part perfectly correct. Do exactly what you said.
     
  11. cusco thread starter macrumors member

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    found the FW from iclarified....
     
  12. jmann macrumors 604

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    Refer to this page. :)
     
  13. cusco thread starter macrumors member

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    now updating it to the FW 3.0.1, would that make any changes to the modem software? i heard that if the modem software version changes, u wouldn't be able to JB or unlock later.
     
  14. mavis macrumors 68040

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    I use purplera1n and it works great, always has. The problem I had with redsn0w when downgrading from 3.1 to 3.0 was that since the phone shows the 'Connect to iTunes' screen after downgrading, you can't activate it before running the jb tool. With purplera1n, it's no problem - running purplera1n jailbreaks it and kicks it out of the connect to iTunes screen, whereupon you can activate normally. Redsn0w, OTOH, will 'hacktivate' your device if you run it prior to activation (which you have to do when downgrading) ...

    Anyway, purplera1n is the easiest method. It works very well, and I've never had any problems with it whatsoever.
     
  15. jmann macrumors 604

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    Nope. No baseband updates with 3.0.1. They even say to update to it on the Dev Team blog. :)
     
  16. cusco thread starter macrumors member

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    hey guys, i've DLed the 3.0.1 FW for the 3Gs, but was not able to upgrade it from the exisiting FW 3.0.

    i tried putting it into DFU mode, where itune said the phone will need to be restored before using it. then i hold down shift + restore and tried to load the 3.0.1 FW (iPhone2,1_3.0.1_7A400_Restore) and it would tell me the FW is not compatiable.

    any other ways to update it?
     
  17. thelatinist macrumors 603

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    You can't upgrade to 3.0.1 or restore 3.0 stock through iTunes any more. Apple stopped signing the 3.0.x firmware files on Sept. 9. If you have 3.0 on your phone now, you should just skip the restore/upgrade part and jailbreak using redsn0w.
     
  18. TheHeadFL macrumors member

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    I used purplera1n because I think it is easier and I haven't had any problems since it first came out.

    If this were 3.0.1, you can only use redsn0w because purplera1n does not support 3.0.1, however, Cydia never collected hashes for 3.0.1 (just 3.0.0) and therefore your only choice is 3.0.0, if you were lucky enough to have your phone hashed.

    In that case, both options are available, and I prefer purplera1n for 3.0.0 because its easier.
     
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    Ditto. I used redsn0w and have had some problems. Purplera1n worked perfectly for me.
     
  21. cusco thread starter macrumors member

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    ok, i was able to JB with redsnow using the 3.0 FW.

    after JB, i proceed to unlock using ultrasn0w. but when i first lanched cydia, it asked if i wanted to update the essentials, complete update, or developer. it said i need to do that in order to JB later on when i'm on 3.1.

    so i went ahead and just update the essentials and then proceed to entering the ultrasn0w http address. during loading, there's some error like it can't fetch some data and what not, but once i hit ok, it went again and said the same thing like it can't fetch this and that.

    Error: Refreshing Data
    Failed to fetch
    http://www.ispaziorepo.com/cydia/apt/.Release.gpg NetDB: Open nodename nor sevname provided, or not known


    but afterwards, i see ultrasn0w listed and proceed on as iclarified showed. however, when it comes to the final step, the ultrasn0w version i have just lets you reboot device, instead the return back cydia as stated in the iclarified.

    but after that i put in a tmo phone and it just say invalid sim and ask me to connect to itune. when itune launches, it said that's not a valid sim, etc etc.

    i've already turned of the network 3G before starting, so i don't know what i did wrong... ::(
     
  22. thelatinist macrumors 603

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    Why? My understanding is that purplera1n overwrites an arbitrary block of the baseband memory, while redsn0w accomplishes the same task without doing so. Geohot may have been first, but the Dev-Team seems to have improved on his implementation of the exploit. By his own admission, his work is "fast" and "hacky" while the Dev-Team's is "slow" and "right."
     
  23. mavis macrumors 68040

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    Wirelessly posted (iPhone 3GS (White, 32GB): Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A341 Safari/528.16)

    IINM, what you're referring to is the unlocking tool (purplesn0w), not the jailbreaking tool (purplera1n) ...
     
  24. TheHeadFL macrumors member

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    EDIT: nvm
     

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