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Push Email Support for .Mac Accounts on iPhone 2.0
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What makes you think this will only work with .mac?
Have you missed the other announcements?
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I'm so glad this tells me what "push" means. At first I'm just like, what the heck. This is sweet!
I know nothing about any of this, but thinking out loud--if what you say is true, then maybe the push signal NEVER comes over WiFi, but always arrives like an SMS message, regardless of whether you're also online with WiFi or not. But then, once the iPhone knows there's mail to be retrieved, it would use whatever connection is can get--WiFi preferred--to do the actual data transfer. So the Internet would not be directly used for the notification/checking, only when actual mail arrives.
What I'd really love to see is push gmail and google calendar. I subscribe with iCal to my google calendar but I have to plug in to sync events and contacts. I like entering events in the phone's calendar so I can set up alarms, but I also really like having a web based calendar that I can pull up easily at work on our pc based closed network. If i could add events to google cal and have them immediately sync over the air including the alarms, that would be really cool.
when I watched the demo video I was hoping for the same sort of implementation thru google and/or .mac as I have both.
when I watched the demo video I was hoping for the same sort of implementation thru google and/or .mac as I have both.
obviously you have no idea what's going on.
The email service must also allow for push email. Apple is just adding a feature to .Mac, they are in no way crippling other email services.
Also they are supporting Microsoft exchange which has this very feature.
Apple really should have supported IMAP IDLE from the get-go in iphone Mail just like they do in Mail.app on OS X. Would solve a lot of the push complaints from non-exchange/yahoo providers, like oh .mac and most other imap providers.
And even with this I wouldn't sign up for .mac. I'm not paying $100 for something that can easily be duplicated with a pro flickr account, a gmail address, and a wordpress.com blog. Even paying for flickr the whole thing is only $25/year.
And even with this I wouldn't sign up for .mac. I'm not paying $100 for something that can easily be duplicated with a pro flickr account, a gmail address, and a wordpress.com blog. Even paying for flickr the whole thing is only $25/year.
Have you seen a current Blackberry? My Blackberry 8320 (Curve) uses Edge when I am at the office, since I don't get T-Mobile where I live, I connect it to my Wifi at home and I am able to make phone calls and get my pushed email.
RIM does this, that's pretty real world.
I totally agree - as a FastMail user I have had IDLE push email for years on my Treo (using IDLE and an email client called Chatter).
Come on Apple - support IDLE for real PUSH IMAP email!!
I wish it could push calendar items too. I update my calendar on my MBP but sync my phone with my mini. It would be great to get calendar changes as they happen!
i've been using plaxo to sync my calendar and contacts between my computers - it's free and works very well.
While having "push" anything doesn't really mean that much to me (I don't need "instant" e-mail -- I'd rather retrieve it when I'm ready for it), it's nice to see Apple FINALLY giving some kind of perk for .Mac subscribers.
They could do a LOT more, though. .Mac still costs way too much for what little you get. I still have it, and I like having a .mac e-mail address -- but I feel stupid every time I have to renew for another $99, and wonder what am I really paying for?
Keep the .Mac benefits coming, Apple!
They could do a LOT more, though. .Mac still costs way too much for what little you get. I still have it, and I like having a .mac e-mail address -- but I feel stupid every time I have to renew for another $99, and wonder what am I really paying for?
Keep the .Mac benefits coming, Apple!
Using push email does not conserve battery life unless you get fewer emails than polling intervals each day--and the kinds of hyper-obsessive people who feel they "need" push email get a constant stream, so it will not be the case. Periodic polling is the least battery-intensive method because it does not require an active connection; the only time it is wasteful is if the poll comes back empty (i.e. no new mail).
Somebody messed up the original post. Push does not save battery life; rather the opposite, especially if you get messages every few minutes throughout the day, thus preventing your connection (either EDGE or wifi) from ever sitting idle.
I think he was referring to the supposed battery savings, since the only way the article statement could be true is if Apple has invented some new technology.RIM does this, that's pretty real world.
When you buy a BlackBerry, you can create a Blackberry Mail account which basically lets you set up you current email address and receive your messages as push to your cellphone. My gf set up her Gmail account this way.
Now could Apple come up with something similar for non .Mac subscribers? They could even use this database to create Apple ID for the iTMS
Now could Apple come up with something similar for non .Mac subscribers? They could even use this database to create Apple ID for the iTMS
Im really confused about this push mail thing..
at the moment as im just starting out with the iphone (and as Ive found out ive used $90 of data usage already)! i'm limiting my internet usage to keep my bill down.. will this push email service mean it will cost more in terms of downloads? does it mean its always busy doing something in the background all the time?
can i disconnect/connect from push mail whenever i want?
and i know this is a dumb qn, but if i sign up for .mac can i access my .mac account over the internet? sorry im a newbie!
at the moment as im just starting out with the iphone (and as Ive found out ive used $90 of data usage already)! i'm limiting my internet usage to keep my bill down.. will this push email service mean it will cost more in terms of downloads? does it mean its always busy doing something in the background all the time?
can i disconnect/connect from push mail whenever i want?
and i know this is a dumb qn, but if i sign up for .mac can i access my .mac account over the internet? sorry im a newbie!
OK so you've a jailbroken phone then
... Well push requires that the phone keeps an open connection back to the server, in this case Apple. Now you are billing for bytes send and not time connected (I hope)... in which case push should be low on your billing as you will be sending/receiving very low amounts of data. Unless you get lots of mail
I don't think you can turn off the push mail on iphone 2 short of disabling the e-mail account in the preferences of the phone.
Yes mobileMe and in fact .mac allow you to access your e-mail via a web browser, so you can read/file/reply your mail from any internet connected system using almost any web browswer.
--Zed
I'm really confused about this $90 for data thing. In the US, iPhone's all should have an unlimited data plan with AT&T for $20. How are you getting charged extra?
As for .Mac, yes, you can check using a browser if you like along with checking on the iPhone.
isn't this all par & arcel of the new mobileme service anyway?
ie, PUSH email, PUSH calendar, PUSH contacts...
ie, PUSH email, PUSH calendar, PUSH contacts...
But the OP and most of the replies posted before the announcement at WWDC re MobileMe
Steve
Thanks for your help zed2, thats good to know..
and thanks bytethese, the $90 bill is cos im in australia and using an unlocked phone! hasnt been released here yet..
and thanks bytethese, the $90 bill is cos im in australia and using an unlocked phone! hasnt been released here yet..