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Push Gmail workaround guide

Steve121178 said:
You can't do it natively any more unless you forward to another account or use decent alternative apps. If you could do it natively I'd have suggested it!

So as I said, Mailbox.
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Or if you pay $50/year for Google Business. Then you get Activesync.
 
The heck with Gmail

I understand the statement: "I don't want to switch email providers, everybody already has my gmail address". I have been using Gmail for some time as well.

BUT, if we do all these work arounds, then Google gets away with dropping exchange support unless you pay! :eek:

If your local pizza place stopped delivering, wouldn't you find one that did????

I for one will move my mail account to a provider that gives me what I want. (iCloud, Outlook, etc.) I will forward my Gmail for a few weeks, but have an automatic reply sent to anyone sending me mail letting them know with a statement like; "since gmail no longer supports exchange/push, I am moving my mail to xxxx@xxx.com. Please change my email in your address book".
 
ddublu said:
Looked at that but then you have to change your email address.
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Actually I don't think you do. You can use your own domain but I don't think you have to.

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stisdal said:
I understand the statement: "I don't want to switch email providers, everybody already has my gmail address". I have been using Gmail for some time as well.

BUT, if we do all these work arounds, then Google gets away with dropping exchange support unless you pay! :eek:

If your local pizza place stopped delivering, wouldn't you find one that did????

I for one will move my mail account to a provider that gives me what I want. (iCloud, Outlook, etc.) I will forward my Gmail for a few weeks, but have an automatic reply sent to anyone sending me mail letting them know with a statement like; "since gmail no longer supports exchange/push, I am moving my mail to xxxx@xxx.com. Please change my email in your address book".
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My issue is actually less about people having my email and more about the fact its my login at a million places and you can't change it even if you change your email. Annoying.
 
stisdal said:
I understand the statement: "I don't want to switch email providers, everybody already has my gmail address". I have been using Gmail for some time as well.

BUT, if we do all these work arounds, then Google gets away with dropping exchange support unless you pay! :eek:

If your local pizza place stopped delivering, wouldn't you find one that did????

I for one will move my mail account to a provider that gives me what I want. (iCloud, Outlook, etc.) I will forward my Gmail for a few weeks, but have an automatic reply sent to anyone sending me mail letting them know with a statement like; "since gmail no longer supports exchange/push, I am moving my mail to xxxx@xxx.com. Please change my email in your address book".
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I see your point but having firstname.lastname@xyz.com is harder and harder to get....

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Tom359 said:
I've posted this before, but I've been doing this forever because I hate the gmail clients.

Step 1 -set gmail to auto forward to your icloud email. I know you have one, you have an iphone.

Step 2 -go into the mail settings on iphone and disable every SMTP server except the gmail one. This way every email you send will use gmail and not iclould.

Step 3- Profit! ....and push email. Works great for me.
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Help me out on step 2....I have 3 exchange accounts listed + iCloud....if I go to mail & settings I dont see any SMTP servers including a gmail one...I added smtp.gmail.com and turned off iCloud SMTP....went to send an email and it still shows from username@icloud.com as sent from address.
 
Question about the Outlook method given by OP:

After setting this up, if I delete an email from within Outlook, will it reflect in the Gmail account?

In other words, if I delete an email from within Outlook, then go and log into that same Gmail account, will the email be there, or will it be in the trash?

If not, is there a way to enable this?
 
vaultwit said:
Question about the Outlook method given by OP:

After setting this up, if I delete an email from within Outlook, will it reflect in the Gmail account?

In other words, if I delete an email from within Outlook, then go and log into that same Gmail account, will the email be there, or will it be in the trash?

If not, is there a way to enable this?
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No. You can have gmail mark read or delete upon forwarding but there is no communication back to gmail from outlook.
 
So obviously I found out the hard way that gmail no longer works through exchange. So if I want to use Apple's Mail App I need to fetch. I have fetch selected every 15 minutes and when I open the mail app the last check (shown at the bottom) was over an hour ago.

It sucks that it won't push, but now it won't even fetch?
 
After looking at all these suggestions and messing around with forwarding & all sorts for ages, I've reached the conclusion that it's easier to just use the Gmail app for notifications (leave all Gmail notifications on but switch off badges in Notifications) and the native app for everything else (switch all native badge notifications off except badges in Notifications to stop duplicate notifications).

It works fine, just 'slide to unlock' instead of sliding from the Gmail notification in your lock screen and then open the Mail app. Not perfect, but it works.

I'm more annoyed about the fact I can no longer sync my Google calendars via Exchange. Now my calendar colours are all messed up again.
 
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I followed the OP's instructions, and I noticed that my Gmail's inbox AND sent box are being forwarded to my Outlook.

In other words, if I had sent an email to my friend, that "sent" email is showing up in my Outlook's inbox... which is confusing, since that is an email I sent... not received

Anyone know how to set it so that only the Gmail's inbox emails are forwarded?
 
Tehpsyc said:
I decided to type this up because I finally got this working to my liking. I personally do not enjoy the Gmail iOS app and would much prefer the stock Mail app, especially now that iOS 7 has launched. I did some reading and couldn't find a straightforward answer to see if there was any hope to bringing back push Gmail now that Google has killed off Exchange support. So, using a roundabout approach with some of Outlook.com's newest features, I was able to get a setup working very much to my liking.

You'll need:
  1. Gmail account
  2. Outlook.com account
  3. 10 minutes max

Here we go:
  • Optional Step 0
    From within your Outlook.com account, and merge your gmail account with both send and receive. This will sync all your backlogged email from the gmail account into Outlook.com. If you don't care about your backlogged Gmail contents, skip this. You will still need an outlook.com account though.
    http://imgur.com/MyAEuW0
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  • Step 1
    Within Gmail, go to your settings, then Forwarding POP/IMAP, then select the first option and forward your Gmail to your new alias. By doing it this way instead of having outlook.com treat the account as send and receive (which is just a standard POP access that checks at intervals, not push), the emails are forwarded as they are received with only a few seconds of delay compared to push email. Go through all the confirmation steps. Gmail will also mark forwarded emails as 'read' if you desire. Because of the way Gmail handles forwarding, your emails will still report as being sent to the gmail, and be from the original sender, not sent to your outlook and from your gmail, like you'd expect with a normal email forward.
    http://imgur.com/4rEs1tn
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  • Step 2
    Within outlook, go to Options > Rules for Sorting New Messages
    Add a new rule for sorting that says:
    To or CC line | Contains | YourGmail@gmail.com > Destination
    It should look something like this:
    http://imgur.com/pKiF1Bf
    This step is only necessary if you want to sort your incoming gmail into another folder besides inbox. I prefer this because I have multiple gmail accounts this single outlook.com account will be handling.
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  • Step 3
    Add your Gmail account as a send only to Outlook.com
    http://imgur.com/qG4fAZy
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  • Step 4
    Setup your Outlook.com account on your iOS device
    http://imgur.com/SH4Xlgt
    Make sure to enable push notifications for the newly created folders (Inbox is the only one enabled by default). Your final result should look something like this.
    http://imgur.com/Y0zFxxt
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So there's your strange way of making a Google service work on an Apple product using a Microsoft service. (Though to be fair emulating exchange support, the old solution, was not really any different). The shortcomings are that you can't change the send from address within the mail app, it uses whichever you set on Outlook.com. But its a good way to get push email without having to use the Gmail app!

If anyone has any ideas on how to improve upon this, let me know. Or if anything is particularly unclear I'll be happy to fix it.

UPDATE: This should work just fine with iCloud too, but iCloud doesn't have the send-as feature/simplicity that outlook.com has. You'll have to manually configure your smtp settings to use gmail's servers instead, but it should work.
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I think I have this working "but", am I supposed to get a notification on the main screen with an email that was instantly pushed?. Clarification" On my 4s, when an email was sent to my gmail acc it was instantly pushed to my phone and a window would pop up with a new email notification with detail from sender. Now, after this new set up on my 5s, I get the email pushed instantly but I am not receiving a notification window. Did I miss a step or is this the way it's supposed to be ?.
Thanks
JP
 
Slicktype said:
I think I have this working "but", am I supposed to get a notification on the main screen with an email that was instantly pushed?. Clarification" On my 4s, when an email was sent to my gmail acc it was instantly pushed to my phone and a window would pop up with a new email notification with detail from sender. Now, after this new set up on my 5s, I get the email pushed instantly but I am not receiving a notification window. Did I miss a step or is this the way it's supposed to be ?.
Thanks
JP
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Just go into your notification center options and make sure the notifications for the Mail app are enabled. By default they aren't.
 
Has anybody else noticed that mails forwarded to your outlook account that were sent from a gmail account sometimes don't get forwarded? For instance. I send an email from my non-gmail work account and it gets forwarded to my outlook account immediately, every time. But if my wife sends me an email from her gmail account sometimes it never gets forwarded to my outlook account at all.

Anybody else seeing this?
 
phositadc said:
Has anybody else noticed that mails forwarded to your outlook account that were sent from a gmail account sometimes don't get forwarded? For instance. I send an email from my non-gmail work account and it gets forwarded to my outlook account immediately, every time. But if my wife sends me an email from her gmail account sometimes it never gets forwarded to my outlook account at all.

Anybody else seeing this?
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YES!! Outlook.com doesn't get ANY of my messages from google. I set google to forwards to other account with no issue. It just won't work for me to outlook.com.
 
Steve121178 said:
You can't do it natively any more unless you forward to another account or use decent alternative apps. If you could do it natively I'd have suggested it!

So as I said, Mailbox.
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Dude he gave us a work around. That works natively. Using other accounts.

We don't want to use mailbox.

Thanks
 
Saying use Mailbox is a great suggestion except it has a very very bad bug in that it requires to re-add your email accounts evert 8 hours.
 
Tehpsyc said:
Just go into your notification center options and make sure the notifications for the Mail app are enabled. By default they aren't.
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Thank you so much for this.
To the OP, you're awesome !!! Thank you so much for this walk through. Push is a must for me and this guide worked perfectly !!!.
Jp
 
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