iPad Pro PWM Confirmed - 2024 IPP - OLED - Keep those 2018 12.9 IPP’s 🤬

[erihp]

Maybe the answer to this is putting away your phones, tablets and laptops for a while.

I say that a bit tongue in cheek, but when you consider the history of mankind, its not a shock that we would feel negative effects from these bright screens blasting our faces every waking moment of the day.... pwm or not, its the amount of exposure and usage to blame, ultimately.

It's your body telling you to give it a rest... send all the mad face emojis you want.

 

[gusping]

Buy an M2 or M3 iPad Air. It’ll be as good as or better than your 2018 Pro and doesn’t have an OLED screen. Plus, it’ll last you another seven years - or more. Amazon is selling both the 11-inch and 13-inch versions at $100 off right now.

Yeah, the iPad Air has crossed my mind but no promotion or face ID is a problem. I can probably squeeze out this 2018 iPP another year at most. So i think i’ll just hold on as long as possible.

 

[xpxp2002]

Yeah, the iPad Air has crossed my mind but no promotion or face ID is a problem. I can probably squeeze out this 2018 iPP another year at most. So i think i’ll just hold on as long as possible.

M2 iPad Pro, then. I intentionally bought one to replace my 10.5”, expecting OLED to come to the next model. I’ll be sticking with it as long as I can.

 

[tivoboy]

I still use my 2018 IPP 12.9 with the external slim keyboard (this is key), but just actually grabbed a 2024 IPad Air M2 13” for $349 (it was a university deal) and will look for a suitable keyboard (not giant Magic Keyboard) and see if I can handle the 60 hz refresh and the annoyance of TouchID vs. FaceID.. certainly the speed and power are going to be MUCH appreciated..

 

[jimmy_uk]

All OLED screens have PWM, but from what i understand, the higher the frequency of said PWM, the less noticeable. Apple uses something like a PWM frequency of 428? I heard that some compnies have increased the frequency over 1,000 which has all but solved the issue for those that get eyestrain & headaches from PWM. Perhaps Apple can fix this with a software update? Or if it’s a hardware issue, perhaps when the M5 ipad pros come out? I dunno 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, higher PWM frequency sounds like a fix on paper, and it may have helped some people—but honestly, for me (and a lot of others), it hasn’t made a difference.

It’s not just about how fast the flicker is. Things like how deep the brightness dips (the amplitude), how aggressive the modulation is at lower brightness levels, and how the display handles changes all factor in. Even at 1,000Hz or more, if those other things aren’t dialed in, it can still cause serious eyestrain.

 

[pdoherty]

Hopefully Apple takes the PWM issue seriously and implements an actual solution for their phones and tablets. I won't be buying another iPad with a PWM display until they resolve it (and I've been using iPads since the first model - I was in line at the store on day one to buy an original iPad).

 

[Macalway]

"If thy eye offends thee, pluck it out!"

 

[gusping]

M2 iPad Pro, then. I intentionally bought one to replace my 10.5”, expecting OLED to come to the next model. I’ll be sticking with it as long as I can.

The M2 iPP is too expensive to justify, and i'm not spend hundreds of ££ on a several year old iPad. I would rather just ride my 2018 iPP into the sunset than risk that.

Hopefully Apple takes the PWM issue seriously and implements an actual solution for their phones and tablets. I won't be buying another iPad with a PWM display until they resolve it (and I've been using iPads since the first model - I was in line at the store on day one to buy an original iPad).

I've also owned pretty much every large size iPad since launch. But until the M4 iPP i have never had an issue with OLEDs. iPhones, LG TVs, QD-OLED 4K 240hz monitor, etc. None have caused any issues. I will most likely try the M5 iPP again just in case, but i expect the panel to be exactly the same.

 

[pdoherty]

I've had issues with PWM on other devices, too. It was why I sold the Steam Deck OLED I bought - it would make me cross-eyed/blurry if I used it more than 20 minutes.

 

[fastson]

Don’t notice it at all.