It's an entry-level computer, yes, but historically, it was also commonly used as a low-end server. With four cores, it was viable in that capacity (though I would have preferred ECC RAM). With two cores, it just doesn't have enough power to handle even my relatively modest server needs.
Unfortunately, Apple has been systematically making life more and more miserable for people running servers on their Macs. First, they ditched the Xserve (high-end server), then they redesigned the Mac Pro (midrange server) in a manner that prevents it from being rack mounted, and now, they turned the Mini (low-end server) into a toy. There's no usable Mac server hardware left for us at this point, so when my current box dies, I'll have no choice but to move to Linux and generic PC hardware.
Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that Apple needs to make the server market a primary focus in their design decisions, but completely throwing away that entire market segment is a strategically foolish move for a company that really ought to know better.
Could you give me a brief list ?
I know for a fact photoshop ( maybe some filters do ) , the os and most games don't require multi cores over 2 , so what apart from handbrake needs all these cores that you're all missing so much in the 2014 model ?
It's an entry-level computer, yes, but historically, it was also commonly used as a low-end server. With four cores, it was viable in that capacity (though I would have preferred ECC RAM). With two cores, it just doesn't have enough power to handle even my relatively modest server needs.
Unfortunately, Apple has been systematically making life more and more miserable for people running servers on their Macs. First, they ditched the Xserve (high-end server), then they redesigned the Mac Pro (midrange server) in a manner that prevents it from being rack mounted, and now, they turned the Mini (low-end server) into a toy. There's no usable Mac server hardware left for us at this point, so when my current box dies, I'll have no choice but to move to Linux and generic PC hardware.
Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that Apple needs to make the server market a primary focus in their design decisions, but completely throwing away that entire market segment is a strategically foolish move for a company that really ought to know better.
You do know that's not true right?
hot diddly dog...all those idiots on ebay trynna profit off poor late to game mac mini users can shove it
Apple has decided to throw the server market buyers under the bus, because these buyers are too smart to be roped into Apple walled garden with its incredibly high commission charges and its planned obsolescence of the iGadgets.Unfortunately, Apple has been systematically making life more and more miserable for people running servers on their Macs. First, they ditched the Xserve (high-end server), then they redesigned the Mac Pro (midrange server) in a manner that prevents it from being rack mounted, and now, they turned the Mini (low-end server) into a toy. There's no usable Mac server hardware left for us at this point, so when my current box dies, I'll have no choice but to move to Linux and generic PC hardware.
I've been watching the refurbished site and notice that the 2012 quad core i7 comes up every 20 to 45 days. Lasts about 3 hours then disappears. (I bought one for a friend). I suspect apple noticed these sold like there was no tomorrow. I'm wondering if they accidentally posted them in the new (non-refurbished) site. There is market for the quad core Mac Mini. Hopefully that configuration will return.Maybe they only had one.
...Question about HTPC application of the mini...
For that use case would the 1.4 GHz option make more sense so it's not sucking down as much juice?
I am semi tempted by the base model for this reason. Maybe I'm just trying to justify its existence.
It might be funny, but I tend to believe he's right: Apple had some spare units to sell, it's the best explanation I can think of. These days I recap how disgusting I find current Apple policies with their products and services, and it can only be compared to my feelings against Microsoft in their days.Lol, funniest comment I've seen on MR for a long time!
It might be time for Apple to do market research.
I totally agree but they've been 'dumbing down' the Server OS ever since Snow Leopard (which was the last 'real' OS X Server). I use the latest generation myself and even with my limited needs (2 domains with 10 users) it's really annoying to work with it. Everything only has a few 'on/off' sliders and if you need to do anything else you need to either hack config files (like I had to do to support email clients running Windows Live Mail) or install third-party software like Icefloor (which I had to use to amend the firewall rules).
You guys are happy that apple is charging you guys $700 for 2013 CPU and 4GB of ram? LOL
It's an entry-level computer, yes, but historically, it was also commonly used as a low-end server. With four cores, it was viable in that capacity (though I would have preferred ECC RAM). With two cores, it just doesn't have enough power to handle even my relatively modest server needs.
Unfortunately, Apple has been systematically making life more and more miserable for people running servers on their Macs. First, they ditched the Xserve (high-end server), then they redesigned the Mac Pro (midrange server) in a manner that prevents it from being rack mounted, and now, they turned the Mini (low-end server) into a toy. There's no usable Mac server hardware left for us at this point, so when my current box dies, I'll have no choice but to move to Linux and generic PC hardware.
Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that Apple needs to make the server market a primary focus in their design decisions, but completely throwing away that entire market segment is a strategically foolish move for a company that really ought to know better.
You guys are happy that apple is charging you guys $700 for 2013 CPU and 4GB of ram? LOL
Not sure if I overlooked any sarcasm tags, but ... Siri runs on HP servers and iCloud is powered by HP and IBM servers.Apple has opened up several new server farms across the US to handle the iCloud traffic... its likely that's where all the updated Xserves and mini servers are, right?![]()
Yeah an $18bn profit this quarter
They're REALLY struggling .
The 2.6ghz version is $699.00, with the same exact specs as the one above it,
I don't understand this obsession with the 2012 model , the gpu is outdated , the new model has much faster pcie - hardware and most normal software doesn't even use multi cores anyway , not more than 2 certainly.
It's because everyone on here buys a mini to run 50 virtual machines![]()
The mini is designed as an entry-level computer for personal computing. It is not meant to be a powerhouse. The current line up is more than sufficient for 99% of Apple users.
The 2014 mini is ridiculously overpriced if it's only meant as an entry level computer. You can buy an entry level Chromebox for 1/4th the price and an entry level Windows pc for 1/2 the price. Now as for it's more than sufficient for 99% of Apple users, does Apple put an asterisk saying, "hey, all of those power hungry apps, yeah, this isn't meant to run those. Buy an iMac or Mac Pro instead."
Apple has made some horrible decisions in recent years. Abandoning the professional community is just one of them, but now they are screwing over their regular consumers.
It's an entry-level computer, yes, but historically, it was also commonly used as a low-end server. With four cores, it was viable in that capacity (though I would have preferred ECC RAM). With two cores, it just doesn't have enough power to handle even my relatively modest server needs.
Unfortunately, Apple has been systematically making life more and more miserable for people running servers on their Macs. First, they ditched the Xserve (high-end server), then they redesigned the Mac Pro (midrange server) in a manner that prevents it from being rack mounted, and now, they turned the Mini (low-end server) into a toy. There's no usable Mac server hardware left for us at this point, so when my current box dies, I'll have no choice but to move to Linux and generic PC hardware.
Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that Apple needs to make the server market a primary focus in their design decisions, but completely throwing away that entire market segment is a strategically foolish move for a company that really ought to know better.
How did no one notice these 3 shipping containers in the corner of the warehouse for 3 years? What now...? Put them in the store I guess!