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If intel won't allow nvidia to provide their motherboards and gpus and instead saddle us as in these quads with their stone age gpus that will make their cheaps hotter, then apple is in for a messy situation considering their close ties with both intel and nvidia. And pretty soon AMD at their prices and ATI's gpus being IMMENSLY better architecture than intel is the winning combo to anyone with half a brain outside the pocketed by intel online pundits. Now with snow leopard using the gpu more effectively too, it's even more so. Who will get a $1000 intel quad with crap intel graphics instead of an amd quad with ati which will be maybe 5-10% cpuwise worse off than intel but HALF the price and with a 10 times better graphics solution from ati, or for that matter nvidia. It's a no brainer.
nVidia is safe on DMI but not on QPI.

Like I said before I'd like to see what chipsets go along with these. There isn't an IGP solution right now until Intel ships it onboard with the CPU.
 
Best Upgrade Ever!

No need for a quad core MBP.

I just stuck a new Corsair P256 SSD drive in my current MBP and it's like I increased my performance by a factor of 10. Unbelievable, I couldn't be any happier with the update.

Boot times are incredible, all of my applications launch and start before the app bounces in the dock once.

I would recommend this update to anyone before getting a clocked down quad core CPU.
 
Yes

They have used Montevina

Do you really think Apple wants to put Intel stickers on their machines?

To Intel, the code name "Montevina" refers to the combination of a 45 nm Core 2 Duo/Quad (code name "Penryn",) along with the 45-series mobile chipset (PM45 with discrete graphics, or GM45 with integrated graphics.) Therefore, Apple does *NOT* use "Montevina". They use the same processors, at the same bus speed (1066 GT/s,) with the same memory technology (dual-channel DDR2 or DDR3,) but because it does not use Intel's chipset, Intel does not consider it "Montevina". This means that it would not qualify for Intel's "Centrino" branding; which Apple has eschewed using even when their systems would have qualified for it. Apple could still, if they desired, slap a "Core 2 Duo" sticker on the system. But we know Apple doesn't like that.
 
Apple could still, if they desired, slap a "Core 2 Duo" sticker on the system. But we know Apple doesn't like that.

I was under the impression that Apple pays Intel a fee to not have to put the "Intel Inside" stickers on Macs. Was I mistaken? :confused:
 
I was under the impression that Apple pays Intel a fee to not have to put the "Intel Inside" stickers on Macs. Was I mistaken? :confused:
It's entirely up to the manufacturer. If you do put the sticker one you get few dollars from Intel. I'm not sure if their rate is per machine or a volume number one.

Apple isn't paying anything.
 
Quad core touch screen imac please! (ok, I can dream about the touch screen part :p)

Just get a Microsoft Surface and Hackint0sh it. :D

It's entirely up to the manufacturer. If you do put the sticker on you get a few dollars from Intel. I'm not sure if their rate is per machine or a volume number one.

Apple isn't paying anything.

Glad someone could clear that up, I've been wondering for a while.
 
remember that these processors will use Intel turbo mode just like the Xeon and Extreme editions desktop parts.

I am not sure if the turbo mode will enable 1 or 2x the multiplier. I think it is 2x.

That means that a 1.6ghz will run at 1.73 if its 1 or 1.9ghz if it is 2.

In PC you can manually change the multiplier turbomode on the extreme edition. I don't know if you can do it on the Xeon parts.

On my PC I have changed turbomode from 24x to x30. Let's hope we can do the same on the extreme edition laptop part.
 
DAMN!

I was going to buy a Quad this summer, then thought it wouldn't happen. So I started looking at cars and am buying one next week Thought I'd be able to just buy a Quad Q1/2 2010. Oh well. Looks like I'm going to be waiting for USB 3.0.
 
I was under the impression that Apple pays Intel a fee to not have to put the "Intel Inside" stickers on Macs. Was I mistaken? :confused:

The Intel logo program is not one where you pay a fee to put the sticker (properly called a "badge",) on (other than the marginal cost of the stickers, a few cents a piece, if I remember correctly.) It is a program where as long as your system meets Intel's trademark guidelines (http://www.intel.com/intel/legal/tmusage2.htm,) you can put the appropriate Intel badge on. Indeed, if you buy an Intel processor in a retail box, you get the badge for that processor in the box.

If you apply to Intel, and follow more stringent branding guidelines, you can get Intel to help pay for your advertising. (So when you see a Dell ad that ends with the Intel chimes, Intel kicked a few bucks in to that ad.)

Note that my knowledge of Intel marketing practices does not come from my current employment at Intel, I have *NOTHING* to do with marketing now. It comes from prior experience working at an Intel Product Dealer. It is entirely possible that things have changed in the last year; but I doubt it.
 
Nehalem

I can't believe all those who complain about the name Nehalem. None of you seem to have realized the underlying significance of the name. Take a good look and you will see that's it's Melahen spelled backwards. That's the reason for Nehalem.
 
I can't believe all those who complain about the name Nehalem. None of you seem to have realized the underlying significance of the name. Take a good look and you will see that's it's Melahen spelled backwards. That's the reason for Nehalem.
I'll just ignore Intel's years of using geological landmarks and locations for their naming conventions.
 
I am sure I look like an idiot for asking, but isn't Apple's third quarter of 2009 from April thru June? Does this mean we might see Nehalem chips in the next month and a half?
 
The Intel logo program is not one where you pay a fee to put the sticker (properly called a "badge",)

When I peel it off, and it leaves crap behind, and it looks like a sticker, feels like a sticker, and bends like a sticker.....it is a sticker.

There's nothing badge-like about it. ;)
 
Which stickers are you talking about? There aren't any on my laptop. Do you mean the stickers that come in the box that you're not required to put on anything?
Those are the stickers.

Like the stickers that come with my processor that I'm not required to put on anything.
 
At least these new notebooks will have the added functionality of being able to be turned upside down so that you can put your frying pan and have a fry up.
 
At least these new notebooks will have the added functionality of being able to be turned upside down so that you can put your frying pan and have a fry up.
Clarksfield is 35 W which is equivalent to the 25 W Penryns used in the MacBook Pro, and likely cooler than the 35 W Penryns also used in the MacBook Pro.
 
Is Apple going to use Calpella? As I recall they don't use Montevina (or enough of it to allow them to use Intel's trademarks like other laptop manufacturers do).

Didn't think Apple ever used Intel's brand names except the processors. Otherwise the macbooks would be advertised as being Intel Centrino
 
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