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It's a freaking cellphone. Last thing a tiny screen phone needs is 8-16GB of RAM and 10gigabit 5G. This is just specs for dick measuring contests, but not for actual usage.
For most people in the emerging market, their smartphone is their only, and often times, first, ever computer. With the new normal of everything long distance (learning, working, etc), the phone has become the primary all in one computer for many.

Even in developed countries, the smartphone has become an indispensable always on computer in your pocket. More or better tech won’t hurt. Diminishing return at certain point, maybe, but still welcomed.
 
The faster you go the more data you are likely to consume.
Only if you've got slow data now that you are literally waiting for. Less waiting allows you to do more, so more data will be used in that case. Most people now on 4G are not waiting. You can't watch a movie faster or listen to an album faster. You can browse only as fast as you can read. I don't see how having some ridiculous 10Gbps speed will consume significantly more data on a phone.
 
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This is theoretical. No one is ever going to realize 10Gbps speeds on their phone. I'd be surprised if a 5G tower even had a 1Gbps shared between all of its connections.
 
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Practically speaking I need those speeds in my iPhone about as much as I need a smaller battery.

Anyone here that actually have a legit reason for such a speedy iPhone?
Actually what I need is to disable the mmWave antenna to avoid an excessive battery drain. With the speeds of regular sub-6 5G I have more than enough.
 
All those crazy upgrades and data speeds and the tower by your house can only do half 0.1Gb just like it is happening with iPhone 12. I am sure they test their data speeds with a dedicated line where only one device is the client.
 
For you maybe maybe someone else needs it.
You're right...someone does need it. There surely is ONE PERSON, SOMEWHERE, that needs it. Therefore, let's spend a bazillion dollars on upgrading the towers and sell users millions of phones on the marketing premise that they NEED THIS.
 
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Practically speaking I need those speeds in my iPhone about as much as I need a smaller battery.

Anyone here that actually have a legit reason for such a speedy iPhone?
What is actually important as some acknowledged is:

Power efficiency
Latency
Coverage of distant areas
Reliability

When all this is met then speed is nice bonus. Saving 0.5 second 20x a day can make some ppl happy :) Or downloading video that you will watch hour in 5 seconds.

Main benefits it can bring is to Apple headset as it can be moving big data to guarantee user satisfaction.

For Apple is more important besides efficiency of X modems its own modem developement as I thing they may make adreement only about iPhone but not iPads or Macs, not talking about glasses or car where secutity can play key role and Apple will want integrate connectivity directly into silicon what not sure is possible with Qualcomm technology.
 
You're right...someone does need it. There surely is ONE PERSON, SOMEWHERE, that needs it. Therefore, let's spend a bazillion dollars on upgrading the towers and sell users millions of phones on the marketing premise that they NEED THIS.
So basically crap on QC because tour a Apple fan. Lol
 
So basically crap on QC because tour a Apple fan. Lol
I crapped on your comment, not QC. And, sorry, but your "Apple fan" accusation doesn't apply, as the QC chip can just as easily be found in an Android phone. What I said has nothing to do with brand.
 
Practically speaking I need those speeds in my iPhone about as much as I need a smaller battery.

Anyone here that actually have a legit reason for such a speedy iPhone?
Even at home, 10 Gigabit is more than anyone needs (that's 1 GB of data in less than a second). I'd rather see 1 Gigabit reach every spot in the country than a continued push for higher speeds in just a few areas.
 
Practically speaking I need those speeds in my iPhone about as much as I need a smaller battery.

Anyone here that actually have a legit reason for such a speedy iPhone?
Because the future is different than today. We won’t just be surfing the internet and checking email with our connections. You have to build infrastructure and devices ready for that.

In the meantime, we have 4K video, large file downloads, large app updates, etc. Faster connection is always better.
 
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Practically speaking I need those speeds in my iPhone about as much as I need a smaller battery.

Anyone here that actually have a legit reason for such a speedy iPhone?
I agree that for iOS 13.5 it is completely overkill but If Apple expands iOS to eat into Mac OS it may make sense. Imagine a doc for an iPhone with an external monitor(s), keyboard and mouse. It would be great to get rid of my laptops and just buy a dock or two for my phone.
 
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Even at home, 10 Gigabit is more than anyone needs (that's 1 GB of data in less than a second). I'd rather see 1 Gigabit reach every spot in the country than a continued push for higher speeds in just a few areas.

So for wireless, the reason for increased speeds is not for you.
The airwaves are a shared resource.
The faster you can get on/off allows others to do the same.
This is about effective sharing of a fixed resource.
If you can increase the bandwidth of wireless in an area by some factor you also reduce the amount of congestion and waiting.

So don't think about you doewnloading faster; its more effective utilization for everyone.
 
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I crapped on your comment, not QC. And, sorry, but your "Apple fan" accusation doesn't apply, as the QC chip can just as easily be found in an Android phone. What I said has nothing to do with brand.
So because you don’t need more speed or bandwidth. No one else does. Got it. Why does it bother you what QC spends their money on? I’m sure Apple spends lots developing tech for our iPhones

hope the android users appreciate the extra speed too. Jesus. Some here are delicate
 
Because the future is different than today. We won’t just be surfing the internet and checking email with our connections. You have to build infrastructure and devices ready for that.

In the meantime, we have 4K video, large file downloads, large app updates, etc. Faster connection is always better.
I agree that for iOS 13.5 it is completely overkill but If Apple expands iOS to eat into Mac OS it may make sense. Imagine a doc for an iPhone with an external monitor(s), keyboard and mouse. It would be great to get rid of my laptops and just buy a dock or two for my phone.

Sorry, but no… You two are talking about something way beyond a 2022 iPhone; and even if it was for a 2022 iPhone very few people would realistically get a 10 Gigabit connection from their mobile network. The capacity for everyone starting to use that for their everyday internet simply won't be there for a very long time; and it will cost a ridiculous amount of money compared with their regular broadband+wifi. Not to mention that all streaming needed comes in way below that even for 4K content; all while most people still will be watching stuff on their old 1080 TVs. And good luck if you intend to actually use that bandwidth to regularly download a lot of stuff, because all that data requires storage.
 
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Even at home, 10 Gigabit is more than anyone needs (that's 1 GB of data in less than a second). I'd rather see 1 Gigabit reach every spot in the country than a continued push for higher speeds in just a few areas.
I love to see that happen. Too many of us pay too much for slower speed connectivity with data caps compared to other countries. Still it’s interesting to see how technology progresses.
 
Who the heck needs this?!? Most of the world is still stuck on crappy 3G or 4G that pretends to be, except it's worse than the crappy 3G, connections. It's like buying a Ferrari in a country with no roads. Focus on a stable infrastructure, and maybe then look at scaling up. Innovation is useless if no-one can use it.
 
Only if you've got slow data now that you are literally waiting for. Less waiting allows you to do more, so more data will be used in that case. Most people now on 4G are not waiting. You can't watch a movie faster or listen to an album faster. You can browse only as fast as you can read. I don't see how having some ridiculous 10Gbps speed will consume significantly more data on a phone.

Less waiting is only part of the way you use more data. If you have a faster connection you can be provided what ever you're look at, at higher quality.

Watching a movie or listening to an album faster has nothing to do with it, it's that you can get a higher quality version of the movie or music. So instead of being stuck at 480p you now can watch 720, 1080 4k with out buffering. That uses more data.

Apps that have infinite scroll suck when you have a slow connection that just don't work, so having a fast connection you use more data because of all that content being loaded as you scroll.

If we were still stuck with 3G connections we would not have phones with the ultra high screen resolution we have because when your on a mobile connection you would never be able to load images and video that look good and take advantage of the display. You would be waiting for things to load and just give up.
 
Who the heck needs this?!? Most of the world is still stuck on crappy 3G or 4G that pretends to be, except it's worse than the crappy 3G, connections. It's like buying a Ferrari in a country with no roads. Focus on a stable infrastructure, and maybe then look at scaling up. Innovation is useless if no-one can use it.

IDK where your getting your information from but most of the world is NOT stuck on crappy 3G or 4G. Billions of people across the globe have access to very fast mobile networks.
 
Hmm.... I can already imagine it now..
2021: Huawei with Snapdragon X65
2021: Samsung with Snapdragon X65
2021: OnePlus with Snapdragon X65
2021: Huawei with Snapdragon X65
2021: Google Pixel with Snapdragon X65
2022: iPhone with Snapdragon X65: "Innovation"
This modem isn't going to launch until 1H22, presumably with the S22 series. When Apple released the iPhone 12, it had the newest modem available. iPhones always drop in 3/4Q. The iPhone and Qualcomm's modems are on different release schedules, so Apple will always feel 'behind'.
 
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