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You can change the RAM in it, and most of the parts are not Apple-specific. But it's on the way there. At least it appears to be cheap for what parts it has, somehow.
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I did that once because I saw some comment section on Android Authority full of a bunch of Apple-haters, so I left a comment there to keep them all busy for a few hours then left.
LOL. I'm sorry, Not many apps make use of this. Plus, my Note III would eat it for breakfast.
On that, I do like my 5c though. It functions well and it's a pretty blue color that makes me smile.
I have no idea what Samsung's plans for Tizen will be and how it'd differ from the current smartphones. As mentioned before, Samsung pretty much hold the majority of the Android market but majority of the customers that buy Samsung devices don't see it as Android devices but rather Samsung devices. They have their own skin driving their own Samsung experience on top of Android devices. So, if they port the same experience using the same skin and terminology onto Tizen, to most users, it wouldn't make any difference.
That's why I think next year when Samsung starts to push Tizen hard, Google is not going to have one competitor anymore, their biggest competition will be Samsung/Tizen.
That's also why Google started pushing Google Play editions of Android devices and their Nexus/Moto series, they don't want Samsung to fragment Android further.
For now, until I can see it in person and learn more about it, I'd rather not say anything else.
Samsung is the largest single manufacturer of smartphones.
But look at how many non-Samsung phones are sold. Lenovo, LG, Huawei and Others add up to more units than Samsung.
That's my point it will never be perfect. You guys spend so much time pointing out what's wrong not really enjoying your products.
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Are you talking about the paid Samsung trolls??
I didn't say it holds the majority of smartphones, I said Android market./
Do you have the details on what Others mean? Are those including Windows Phone, Blackberry and such?
In addition, those numbers are just one quarter. It'd be nice to see the whole year.
Does that include the 20% cheat factor included in Samsung benchmark results?
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With 3GB of RAM, I doubt they'd need to cheat much. Also, I use multiple benchmark apps. Both regular and rooted versions to access the whole phone, not just the surface.
I do my own research. I don't need a brand to tell me what is quality when I can take it apart myself.
heh heh, I wish it is that simple. Google has done the same thing to Leveno last year and Acer in Sept this year by forcing them to cancel plan to build a non-Android phone:
http://www.zdnet.com/cn/report-google-stops-acer-from-launching-aliyun-phone-in-china-7000004246/
Samsung will have a all or nothing decision if it want to launch phone with it's own OS. And on top of it, they will have to find a replacement map (Nokia is it...there is no other map on the market now), a replacement of Google voice, Google drive etc. etc. And they also has to populate their own app stores (o.k. how do you get 4 million apps owner submit their app to your store when you don't have any users yet? And how do you review all of them in a timely fashion?).
But they got caught twice!! Whether they had to or not they did. They obviously were not fine with their devices being comparable to every other device.
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it's obvious they have a plan and that's why they get paid millions and millions of dollars. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it can't be done.
What do you base that on? Executable binaries take up more RAM, but data doesn't (technically it can, but by a very insignificant amount and only in certain circumstances).
Some could easily look at the Safari executable in a jailbroken iOS device and compare the 64-bit and 32-bit binaries. They would likely show the size difference (whatever number is bandied about, I think something like 25% larger).
But the web pages in the tabs, yeah, they all take up the exact same amount of RAM (perhaps a few bytes here and there, nothing that would add up to even 1MB extra).
In short, your anger is misdirected.
I see. Here are some more numbers:
ANDROID is 205 million smartphones. Samsung only sold 80 million smartphones total.
The point is... Samsung is not the majority of the Android market as you proclaimed.
On the first chart... "Others" is all the brands that didn't make the top-5 list. That includes bigger brands like HTC and Blackberry... plus all those no-name brands sold around the world. And combined, they make up a massive chunk of the smartphone market.
Sure... there are some Windows Phones and Blackberries mixed in there. But the majority of those "Other" phones are running Android. See below.
Here's the platform breakdown of the total smartphone market:
81.9% - Android
12.1% - iPhone
3.6% -- Windows Phone
1.8% -- Blackberry
Again... it's safe to say that most of those "Other" phones are running Android.
True. Maybe we'll see some yearly numbers in January.
But do you honestly expect them to be much different?
One place where data could take up a lot more space on 64-but vs 32-bit would be structures with lots of pointers. I haven't looked personally, but it would not surprise me at all if the DOM tree of a web browser would have a lot of pointers in it. Don't know if it would be in the more than 1MB range - that would be *a lot* of pointers (~250k of them) to get that high.
I would suspect that there might be some other bugs lurking in Safari/WebKit on iOS 64-bit that would be a better explanation for the issues being seen. It already sounds like 7.1 is a huge improvement in the A7 devices.
How much of that 205 million were legitimate smartphones? Maybe 30 million if your lucky, the rest were android powered devices at best.
I for one don't believe that their are paid trolls here. I'm talking about the over the top worshiping of all things Apple.
With such a HUGE lead, the webshare issue still remains. Are these android dumb phones with no web access?
How is that a mobile platform with 80% marketshare ONLY has 33% web share????
To top it off, ICS and GB still dominate 43% of android. 2 revs behind....
Problem is that if you scroll down to the comments section, there are many posts suggesting the opposite. Here are some of them.
Likewise, if you look at the photo of Android, it explicitly spells out 64-bit support as being one of the new features. Why would Google mention this if Android were 64-compliant all along? If they wanted to inform people of this fact, you would think they would just simply say it out.
As such, I question the veracity of the article you just linked. Somehow, I doubt it is that straightforward. Otherwise, you would have seen Google or Samsung tout this fact by now.
The chart said Worldwide Smartphone Sales.
So no... I don't think they're including Android-powered refrigerators and digital picture frames.
But who knows, right?
The chart said Worldwide Smartphone Sales and totaled 250 million for Android last quarter.
Worldwide Mobile Phone sales were actually 456 million last quarter.
So no... they're not including dumbphones in the smartphone figure.
Look... all I was doing was trying to prove that Samsung wasn't the "majority of Android" like MikhailT said. I think I've done that.
And yes... we all know that iOS has more web usage than Android... even though Android has HUGE market share.
Or at least that's what the reports say.
yep just like Android users do not use the web. I don't buy it.The chart said Worldwide Smartphone Sales.
So no... I don't think they're including Android-powered refrigerators and digital picture frames.
But who knows, right?
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but there are pleanty.
Have not seen any of those over the top Apple worshipers, u know and I know they don't exist just plain old Apple enthusiast here.
It's more than that...
... but it's all meaningless, because web (or ad) share has no correlation with ownership numbers or usage.
1) Such stats include tablets. Heck, if you compare iPad vs iPhone web usage, you would think that iPad sales outnumber iPhones by several times.
In other words, iPad owners do surf more than anyone else, and they skew the results.
However, for smartphones, the usage is equal.
The initial "report" that started the whole "iOS users are on the web more" meme was this one from Chitika. Inside it was this key paragraph, which was totally ignored by reporters:
2) Apps and widgets don't show up in such stats. In many places around the world, apps and games are used far more often than surfing.
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