So your saying Qualcomm will hurt Apple? Seems accurate if Intel’s chips don’t add up.
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Qualcomm Expects Apple to 'Solely' Use Intel Modems for 2018 iPhones
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Intel's wireless product team is based in Israel.
I sure hope it’s finally on par with Qualcomm. I’ve waited for the unlocked version with the last 2 generations to make sure I get a Qualcomm chipset. It’s not just faster speed with the available reception, it’s the difference between getting slow arse 4G vs LTE in rural areas....
The FTC has charged Qualcomm with violating the FTC Act. The complaint alleges that Qualcomm:
- Maintains a “no license, no chips” policy under which it will supply its baseband processors only on the condition that cell phone manufacturers agree to Qualcomm’s preferred license terms. The FTC alleges that this tactic forces cell phone manufacturers to pay elevated royalties to Qualcomm on products that use a competitor’s baseband processors. According to the Commission’s complaint, this is an anticompetitive tax on the use of rivals’ processors. “No license, no chips” is a condition that other suppliers of semiconductor devices do not impose. The risk of losing access to Qualcomm baseband processors is too great for a cell phone manufacturer to bear because it would preclude the manufacturer from selling phones for use on important cellular networks.
- Refuses to license standard-essential patents to competitors. Despite its commitment to license standard-essential patents on FRAND terms, Qualcomm has consistently refused to license those patents to competing suppliers of baseband processors.
- Extracted exclusivity from Apple in exchange for reduced patent royalties. Qualcomm precluded Apple from sourcing baseband processors from Qualcomm’s competitors from 2011 to 2016. Qualcomm recognized that any competitor that won Apple’s business would become stronger, and used exclusivity to prevent Apple from working with and improving the effectiveness of Qualcomm’s competitors.
And Qualcomm is a US company.
The comparison is done between Qualcomm's newer X20 LTE vs. older Intel 7480 (which is on iPhone X). I would be shocked if Apple doesn't move forward with Intel 7560 or 7580, which competes more squarely with X20.
That is not to suggest that Intel is on an equal footing with Qualcomm. X20 is released many months prior to 7560.
I wonder how all this will change (or if it will change) when Verizon shuts down its CDMA network at the end of next year.
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong, but the way I understand this is that Qualcomm controls the patents for CDMA technology. At present the only carriers that still used CDMA technology are Verizon, Sprint and a few Japanese cellular carriers.
Verizon has already stated that it is shutting down its CDMA network at the end of 2019 and has already stopped allowing customer to add new devices that are not VoLTE capable. If the T-Mo/Sprint merger goes through, I believe that Sprint will shut down its CDMA network and rely on the combined T-Mo/Sprint LTE network for voice.
I also believe that the technology for GSM and LTE is owned by a consortium. So royalties are paid to the consortium as opposed to a company.
I wonder if this whole thing might resolve itself in the next 18 to 24 months.
Now what I don't know if whether there are other patents for modem beside the CDMA technology that Qualcomm owns where Intel or Apple may owe royalties.
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong, but the way I understand this is that Qualcomm controls the patents for CDMA technology. At present the only carriers that still used CDMA technology are Verizon, Sprint and a few Japanese cellular carriers.
Verizon has already stated that it is shutting down its CDMA network at the end of 2019 and has already stopped allowing customer to add new devices that are not VoLTE capable. If the T-Mo/Sprint merger goes through, I believe that Sprint will shut down its CDMA network and rely on the combined T-Mo/Sprint LTE network for voice.
I also believe that the technology for GSM and LTE is owned by a consortium. So royalties are paid to the consortium as opposed to a company.
I wonder if this whole thing might resolve itself in the next 18 to 24 months.
Now what I don't know if whether there are other patents for modem beside the CDMA technology that Qualcomm owns where Intel or Apple may owe royalties.
Well dayum. Qualcomm crafted that wearing big boy pants. Playing the part of GTAT we have Apple. Qualcomm may have been the inspiration for Apple's style of supplier bullying. I have no sympathies for either of 'em. Just bidness.
Actually the Snapdragon X24 LTE modem, announced and demonstrated last February, was the world's first 7nm chip.
Wrong again. Shipping devices with X20 modem already have better features, and demonstrated X24 has way, way more advanced features.
The NXP Deal is off the table now. Let’s see the value over the next Q.
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I thought Apple had stopped paying the license fees? Lawsuit?
Apple still has the payments in an account for Escrow in case the lawsuit is lost - mandatory procedure.
Apple also sided with Intel against Qualcomm in this lawsuit so not sure where Intes patent payments are going.
Potentially yes. What if Inte is using different patents or tech that is implemented differently? If that’s the case then no royalties are levied.
The “perceived speed” anyone would be looking for will be shown if the iOS UI gets a segnificant change:
Time before an action is executed and being executed - hitting a button, next screen presented etc; all in the apps code and restricted by iOS core code.
Speed in overlays within the UI; I’ve noticed significant speed in transitions when activated Mission Control in iPhone X vs the former modes (8/7/6S/6/SE) that I’ve used.
Share sheet speed - needs to be increased along with sorting options for name, size, folder first, etc passed onto 3rd parties participating in “Files” API. I noticed Mega.nz is somewhat broken here. But the speed in it showing up and action ING any request is too slow in 2018.
Not to mention, all three companies source thousands of parts from all over the world. It's a global economy.
We get to see what those CDMA patents and tech Intel brought from Via Telecom is going to do performance wise. Good planning years ago from Intel on what they might need to have if they were ever going to make it in the Mobile space. Hopefully they made some improvements and jumps in what they got.
Almost utter crap. iPhone users don't give a rats *** about such things only Android users care about a perceived change in 10% chip performance. Apple users care about ease of use, enjoyment, iMessages, smooth interface, support support support, easy transitions...... I would challenge you to find a iPhone user that knows if he has a Intel or QC chip in his phone.
Apple products to many people are more like that first bike (well that shows my age)
Android products to their users are more like trophies for the short time they are on top and then they need to buy the latest to brag again.
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Apple sells the number one phone. Every year each model improves in almost every regard. So I’m going to trust Apple over you to figure out how to give me a great phone.
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Start by investing in education so people can learn to spell and have an original thought.
And Qualcomm is required to use intel’s Semiconductor patents.
It’s a small intellectual property world.
It’s Qualcomm’s fault to begin with. Qualcomm did an anti-competitive move by paying Apple to NOT use intel’s modem, and they got fined for it. Added with qualcomm’s greed or asking more royalties from Apple, Apple probably decided for its interest to distance itself from Qualcomm.
