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Qualcomm Says New Snapdragon 8 Elite SoC Has 'World's Fastest Mobile CPU'
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I hope it does. Keeps everyone moving forward and not resting on their laurels like intel did in the old days.
I guess this is what the iPhone 17 will be getting too. No in-house Apple modem, please.
Did you have something like Samsung DeX in mind?
Competition is good, so if true, that’s cool.
And a 45% increase over the previous generation would put this at least in striking distance of the Geekbench scores of Apple’s mobile CPUs.
There are two kind of mind-blowing aspects to this, though:
One is a 45% jump in performance. In this era Of CPU development, that’s absolutely massive, and extremely rare unless either your previous design kind of sucked, or your new one is revolutionary.
The other is that it took until this chip, with a 45% jump in performance, to even get close to where Apple is. The core performance of the A series vs Qualcomm’s was, until this generation, staggeringly unbalanced. As in, three-year-old Apple CPUs were directly competitive with Qualcomm’s top of the line.
And a 45% increase over the previous generation would put this at least in striking distance of the Geekbench scores of Apple’s mobile CPUs.
There are two kind of mind-blowing aspects to this, though:
One is a 45% jump in performance. In this era Of CPU development, that’s absolutely massive, and extremely rare unless either your previous design kind of sucked, or your new one is revolutionary.
The other is that it took until this chip, with a 45% jump in performance, to even get close to where Apple is. The core performance of the A series vs Qualcomm’s was, until this generation, staggeringly unbalanced. As in, three-year-old Apple CPUs were directly competitive with Qualcomm’s top of the line.
It should be easily possible, but the big corporations would be sad not to get to sell us more expensive products...
I believe Microsoft tried this already. It went nowhere.
Someday it might happen but I don’t see it now. Desktop usage would need a paradigm change. People just don’t want to pull their phones out to use the computer and then there’s the heat generated among other things.
It is an interesting thought but it’s far from being a new idea. Maybe someday though. Apple won’t start it but if Android can do it right then maybe they’ll jump in.
They tried that back in 2010-11 with the Motorola Atrix. It was a great concept, but way ahead of its time. They could do that now with iPads, but I don’t think they’ll ever run macOS on an iPad.
I’ve been thinking about that more recently, but I’ve found each of my devices has specific use cases. It would be cool in certain situations, but unnecessary in most others when I usually have everything with me in a backpack.
Motorola tried it back in 2010-11 with the Atrix. Way ahead of its time.
Anyone have a link to TSMC ‘s production of the Snapdragon 8 on the N3E process? Specifically the breakdown between A18/Pro and the Snapdragon 8. I was under the impression Apple had purchased all N3E production well into 2025?
So, will this chip be in the S25 Ultra? As it stands, the Samsung S24 Ultra (the best performing phone from the Android sales leader in the States) has the equivalent performance of the 12 Pro Max on the single core score and 14 Pro on the multi core. Seems fair to say they are are least a couple years behind. You could argue 4 years behind.
Almost like an Apple keynote…😳 Before the bashing starts, I’m an Apple fan too!
We’re talking about inherent heat in a hardware design, not random heat due to a software issue that was fixed.
Apple explains why the iPhone 15 is overheating and how it plans to fix it
It's a software issue, not a hardware one.
www.macworld.com
I didn’t watch the most recent keynote, but I recall lots of hard numbers, including occasional geekbench scores being present in presentations. They also frequently show web rendering scores, and battery life is always mentioned.
When a new powerful chip is released, the first question everyone should ask (and many are) is “Battery life/watt usage?” And “heat?”. Yes, those will be device dependent. But if phone makers have to down clock these chips to make them practical in a mobile device, then I’d personally dock them a lot of kudo points.
That was an interesting device. Being able to run a full-blown desktop os from a phone now would be great. Now that the iPhone has USB-C, it can do mirroring if you plug it into a large external screen, so there is no reason that once the phone detects that, it could launch a full version of macOS.
A modem iPhone is more than capable with a very fast CPU, fast GPU, plenty of fast NVMe storage, and if 8GB of RAM is good enough for macOS currently, then the iPhone should have no issues running it. And now that macOS runs on the same silicon, this should be really easy to pull off now. Would love to see Apple give this a go. Make a nice dock with plenty of inputs that you can dock the phone with neatly. Then you have a fast phone and pretty quick full-blown macOS in your pocket.
I guess you believe everything Apple tells you, don't you? The thermal management in the iPhone 15 Pro series was woefully inadequate for the chip. It was not a software issue, although Apple tried to gaslight users into believing it was. Like when they made the signal bars a bit taller on the iPhone 4 instead of admitting they designed a faulty antenna system.
No, in fact I think it’s the other way around, the A18 Pro is faster than the SDGEN3 on CPU, but it loses badly on GPU.
It seems that With the snapdragon gen 4 The A18 Pro will lose in both CPU and GPU, the days when apple was ahead of the competition for 2 whole generations is over I think. And it’s no wonder why, apple gets 10% - 15% improvements every year when Qualcomm is getting 20% - 30%, lets see if apple can catch up and surpass again.
It doesn't have "Apple Intelligence that is more than two years behind industry leaders".
So no.
So no.
Yes, and it was verified as fixed by independent sources. You know, the same sources that verified it actually was a problem.
Also, it wasn’t across all phones because (surprise!) I own one and have NEVER had thermal issues. The only time I even thought it was warm was when driving in the sun, mapping with GPS, playing music over cellular, and charging using induction. About the worst case scenario and it has never had a problem.
So, I feel a 2 year personal experience + independent verification is plenty to state the issue is resolved and not a function of a law in the hardware.
If there was only one streaming service with no competitors, it would be $1zillion/mo.
Hey @OtisFeelgood, I see your reactions suggesting an anti-Apple viewpoint here. Did you have anything to say on this topic? Let's hear what you have to say.
Let's hope that benchmarks show that the marketing message has been fluffed up. Great to see Apple being kept on their toes.
Let's hope that benchmarks show that the marketing message has been fluffed up. Great to see Apple being kept on their toes.