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Qualcomm vs Intel chip. A bigger deal then you think.
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Add my anecdotal experience, my Qualcomm Simfree unlocked 8+ kills my wife's crappy Intel based ATT NEXT 8+. I've posted numerous times with speedtest comparisons to boot. Stop living in denial. Again, if you live in a heavy urban area with numerous towers, there isn't a big difference. However, I travel in rural areas often and that's when the differences become big. I've even tried swapping our sim chips just to make sure, but my 8+ always gets better reception and speed vs my wife's 8+. Also saw the same difference with the 7+ generation.
Apple is moving away from Qualcomm modems/chips because of lawsuits and outrageous royalties.
In future we might see Intel and even MediaTek modems in upcoming iPhones.
Intel modems introduced in iPhone 7 had problems initially. But with all the "year worth" of baseband updates have narrowed down the gap between the two.
With Qualcomm's reduced revenues and R&D budget along with Intel's determination to beat Qualcomm at their game, I wouldn't be surprised that they will be at feature/speed parity by next year.
In future we might see Intel and even MediaTek modems in upcoming iPhones.
Intel modems introduced in iPhone 7 had problems initially. But with all the "year worth" of baseband updates have narrowed down the gap between the two.
With Qualcomm's reduced revenues and R&D budget along with Intel's determination to beat Qualcomm at their game, I wouldn't be surprised that they will be at feature/speed parity by next year.
Check this out. On the internet, I read that I was the President of the US. I don’t live in the White House! Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. The research is anecdotal at best. I had a Qualcomm 7+ and I have an intel X, so far no reception or speed differences that I can tell.
I was also told that my sound quality was much better with the Intel X than it was with the Qualcomm 7 (and by someone who wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Verizon CDMA vs T-Mobile VoLTE sound quality).
iPhone 8 Plus Intel vs. Qualcomm already show measured differences.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/28/iphone-8-cellular-bandwidth-tests/
Hardly anecdotal at this point, unless you want to believe the glass back of 8 is different from the X.
The X uses the same Intel and Qualcomm modems as the 8.
It’s not all about peak transmit rate. Most people operate in average to marginal signal strength especially in buildings. The difference there is very noticeable.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/28/iphone-8-cellular-bandwidth-tests/
Hardly anecdotal at this point, unless you want to believe the glass back of 8 is different from the X.
The X uses the same Intel and Qualcomm modems as the 8.
It’s not all about peak transmit rate. Most people operate in average to marginal signal strength especially in buildings. The difference there is very noticeable.
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Face ID issues is not a big deal to me. I don't wear masks. I don't have a identical twin. I'm not a celebrity or have a mold of my face. I would need to adjust certain habits for it though especially if I'm lying in the bed, it's lying flat on a table, keeping it at a certain distance from my face, etc.
Stuff like Qualcomm modem does. This matters to ridesharing drivers who do Uber and Lyft. This matters to couriers who do GrubHub, Caviar, Postmates, DoorDash, UberEats, etc. The carrier actually matters more to me than the phone hardware just like ecosystems, software, and services matters to others.
You can have the best phone ever but if the carrier sucks, app is poor, voice navigation is flawed which they all are, you can't get any signal for GPS on hilly areas and has poorer battery life, it's just a useless paperweight that can tick off your passengers and anxious, starving customers.
Stuff like Qualcomm modem does. This matters to ridesharing drivers who do Uber and Lyft. This matters to couriers who do GrubHub, Caviar, Postmates, DoorDash, UberEats, etc. The carrier actually matters more to me than the phone hardware just like ecosystems, software, and services matters to others.
You can have the best phone ever but if the carrier sucks, app is poor, voice navigation is flawed which they all are, you can't get any signal for GPS on hilly areas and has poorer battery life, it's just a useless paperweight that can tick off your passengers and anxious, starving customers.
I would still like to see the data on the X. As I said, in my area, I saw no difference in speed or signal strength between versions of the 7+. I will see if I can find someone here with a Qualcomm and run a side by side Speedtest and GoPro it. YMMV
People that have the intel don’t and won’t admit it because they are upset. I understand but doesn’t change the facts
People that have the intel don’t and won’t admit it because they are upset. I understand but doesn’t change the facts
This is just a ridiculous statement and you are attempting to stir the pot for some reason. Even IF there is a difference it is extremely minimal and would only impact a very small number of people overall. You and others here make it sound as if the Intel versions are not usable, which is utter nonsense.
People that have the intel don’t and won’t admit it because they are upset. I understand but doesn’t change the facts
Intel launched a new XMM 7560 modem earlier this year which should make its way to 2018 iPhones. I would expect it to reach parity with Qualcomm.
People that have the intel don’t and won’t admit it because they are upset. I understand but doesn’t change the facts
If that is true, then it’s very cool of you to take pleasure in their plight. Very humane of you. Perhaps you should change your name to Ghandi? Oh wait I’m wrong you’re not being nice, and you’re definitely not acting like Ghandi.
Why do you have to try and ruin someone else’s experience?
But here’s the validation you’re looking for:
You are better than everyone else who purchased a new iPhone. Congratulations.
I don't think its a huge deal.
yeah some hard core Apple fans are certainly upset, but for the far majority people don't care. The phone works as it should regardless if its Qualcomm or Intel.
I consider myself an apple fan, and tbh, I don't care at all.
Very Juvinile
People that have the intel don’t and won’t admit it because they are upset. I understand but doesn’t change the facts
Um from the article you just posted.
"it is not clear whether it is superior for coverage, which would require more in-depth testing. "
So I would say that all this is still very much anecdotal
I don't get why people are posting about Intel being better/closing the gap to Qualcomm. There are already tests on this and Qualcomm trumps the Intel.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/28/iphone-8-cellular-bandwidth-tests/
In every carrier situation, look at how the Qualcomm has faster download speeds compared to the Intel with the iPhone 8.
Unless in real world testing by real users shows otherwise? And this testing was conducted AFTER Apple put in the 'Qualcomm inhibiting software' to make it perform like the performance of an Intel.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/28/iphone-8-cellular-bandwidth-tests/
In every carrier situation, look at how the Qualcomm has faster download speeds compared to the Intel with the iPhone 8.
Unless in real world testing by real users shows otherwise? And this testing was conducted AFTER Apple put in the 'Qualcomm inhibiting software' to make it perform like the performance of an Intel.
[doublepost=1509810434][/doublepost]I care more about reception and I find intel on ATT in my area provides better reception at least when I had both the Intel and qualcom iPhone 7 plus for 6 months each. I decided to get the intel this time and I find the X has even better reception then both of my 7+ phones.I don't get why people are posting about Intel being better/closing the gap to Qualcomm. There are already tests on this and Qualcomm trumps the Intel.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/28/iphone-8-cellular-bandwidth-tests/
In every carrier situation, look at how the Qualcomm has faster download speeds compared to the Intel with the iPhone 8.
No, that's off. WiFi at home is too expensive (data limited cable plan) whereas phone calls are free. However, I've got VoLTE with Telstra, and that works great.
I don't get why people are posting about Intel being better/closing the gap to Qualcomm. There are already tests on this and Qualcomm trumps the Intel.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/28/iphone-8-cellular-bandwidth-tests/
In every carrier situation, look at how the Qualcomm has faster download speeds compared to the Intel with the iPhone 8.
Unless in real world testing by real users shows otherwise? And this testing was conducted AFTER Apple put in the 'Qualcomm inhibiting software' to make it perform like the performance of an Intel.
8mb/s on ATT and 3ish on Tmo is a "big deal?" The 7 Plus numbers are even closer, about 3mb/s each difference.
Taking the grand average over those 2 models and 2 carriers i dont see anything earth shattering