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This reminds me my friend owes me $10 for lunch last week. I shall promptly chase him up for it now.
 
You guys are missing the big picture here in all of this. A few have tried to point it out, the 31 million is nothing, yes, we all know that. It’s what it means for them if they roll over on this and accept that. Sets a precedent for the rest of their ongoing battles going forward with Qualcomm
 
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You guys are missing the big picture here in all of this. A few have tried to point it out, the 31 million is nothing, yes, we all know that. It’s what it means for them if they roll over on this and accept that. Sets a precedent for the rest of their ongoing battles going forward with Qualcomm
Nobody missed it. That got pointed out in several posts already.
 
You guys are missing the big picture here in all of this. A few have tried to point it out, the 31 million is nothing, yes, we all know that. It’s what it means for them if they roll over on this and accept that. Sets a precedent for the rest of their ongoing battles going forward with Qualcomm

Correct, this is not about money, this is pocket change for Apple.

It is about not accepting that you are guilty and wrong, and trying to prove so.
 
Eh, lets not forget Qualcomm was granted injunction against apple . Apple has a long memory and will hold a grudge (see Nvidia). Some hotshot lawyer will keep this moving just because they can.
 
Doesn't make sense to me. If Apple used Intel chips, and it's the chips that violate the patent, then shouldn't they be suing Intel?

What you just stated is the reason the FTC brought a suit against Qualcomm for anti-competitive practices. The reason these fees are being assessed against the Intel phones is because Qualcomm's policy has been that you can't license their patents unless you buy their hardware. Since Apple was still using Qualcomm's licensed technologies with phones that they weren't paying Qualcomm to put chips in, they feel entitled to extra money to offset the "loss" in profits by not being the chipset provider for those devices.

Legally speaking, the practice of tie-in purchases is monopolistic which is forbidden by anti-trust laws in the US. Hence the FTC's suit. I find it interesting, therefore, that they are so boldly asserting a right to EXTRA royalties on these Intel devices. To me, this is a flagrant admission of serious anti-competitive practices and I am starting to side more and more with Apple.
 
Seems like apple is still being stubborn. Pay it off and unite.

How about the consequences of such capitulation, how this will affect the other lawsuits that will cost Apple much more, a lot more than just money?
 
Doesn't make sense to me. If Apple used Intel chips, and it's the chips that violate the patent, then shouldn't they be suing Intel?

Apple switched to using a mix of Qualcomm and Intel chips. The reference to Intel was merely to determine how many iPhones were in violation — those that used Qualcomm chips only.

EDIT - maybe my interpretation was wrong. It was better explained by others, I'm guessing.
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$31 Million to irrevocably ruin your relationship with Apple.

Qualcomm is making bad decisions here IMHO.

I agree that this is a foolish move by Qualcomm. They mismanaged this from the beginning and only made an enemy, not a business partner. I normally don't wish ill on anyone, but I do wish ill on the greediness of Qualcomm as a company.
 
So Apple low-balls Qualcom (as it does with every other supplier), Qualcom rightly tells Apple to pound sand, Apple gets buthurt and decides to sue to get their way.

Timmy, quit acting like the petulant child you are and pay the money Qualcom deserves.
 
So Apple low-balls Qualcom (as it does with every other supplier), Qualcom rightly tells Apple to pound sand, Apple gets buthurt and decides to sue to get their way.

Timmy, quit acting like the petulant child you are and pay the money Qualcom deserves.
Just out of curiosity, do you think what you wrote is what this is all about?
 
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That's cheap compared to losing customers due to inferior Intel radios.
 
Basically the coffee budget for the legal teams...
Apple should just pay or settle it now at this bargain, instead of locking themselves out of 5G for another year - for which they’ll pay a much higher price.
I’m not convinced that’s true. I’m skeptical how much real benefit the majority of users are going to see with 5G. Theoretical numbers and marketing gloss are one thing, but I think 5G will be slow to show any improvement in most people’s daily routines.
 
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You’re assuming that much more bad stuff will happen.

Yes. More than my assumptions, Qualcomm is hoping for worse things than the $31 million to happen to Apple as a consequence of this payout.
 
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You’re assuming that much more bad stuff will happen.

Yes. More than my assumptions, Qualcomm is hoping for worse things than the $31 million to happen to Apple as a consequence of this payout.
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I want 5G iPhones in 2019. Settle and make up.

What will you do with a 5G iPhone (really wishful thinking) in 2019? The network to support 5G will not be ready for another 3 years, at the least.
 
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