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Yes, the battery life of an Apple watch is poor compared even to a $35 no-name generic fitness tracker. I use a non-Apple watch many times when I am away from home or maybe even what on the trail up in the mountains with no access to power. The Versa does what's needed for almost a week with no need to charge.

Apple's problem is they try to make things thin even at the cost of lost functionality.
 
That is true. Most of the time I am able to get through the day with a single charge.

I can sometimes go 30 hours and sometimes 18. Hard to tell why.

But as the rumors suggested (official) sleep tracking is coming to Apple Watch soon, when will be a good time to charge it? It will be an interesting problem to solve ...

I would say thirty minutes in the morning when showering and thirty minutes in the evening before bed. :)

Will not ever be full, but should get you through the day.
 
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i think this is huge news.
i dont think it has anything to do with the trade war.
its more about china loosing competitiveness over all, in spite of the Yuan reaching a 10 year low of 7.17/USD today. china still cant be competitive even at this low exchange rate.

foretells even more big moves coming in apple's supply chain to incentivize more india assembly.
 
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Why? They don’t get 7 days of battery life from a smartphone either. If people can charge those everyday, why not a watch?
If it lasted 7 days people would complain it didn't last for 8 days. If the charge last 1+ days, I am good with it.

I take mine off and it goes on the charger. If I wore it for a medical condition I would save my pennies and have 2.
 
I'm still on the fence about the Apple Watch, even if it is light years ahead of where it started and does pretty much everything anyone hoped it could do. I think part of it stems from the fact that I don't wear wrist watches at all and don't necessarily feel like having to adjust to wearing one again (don't need one since I already have my iPhone with me), and part of it comes from the fact that I don't want to be even more connected to a device than I am with my iPhone (I already spend way too much time looking at that thing). Plus I still can't get over the odd rectangular form factor.

So there's no doubt that it's a fantastic wrist worn computer, it's just more of a question of do I want to be further tethered to an omni-present digital tracker or do I want to draw a line and say thanks-but-no-thanks to something that Apple has made great efforts to convince us we need. Digital device fatigue is real and I think all tech companies (not just Apple) need to consider how all of their gadgets are affecting us (especially kids and teens) emotionally and physically rather than just think of their bottom lines and the need to dominate at all costs.
 
Yes, the battery life of an Apple watch is poor compared even to a $35 no-name generic fitness tracker. I use a non-Apple watch many times when I am away from home or maybe even what on the trail up in the mountains with no access to power. The Versa does what's needed for almost a week with no need to charge.
And that $35 non-name generic fitness tracker can't do a fraction of what the Apple Watch does. Whats that? You don't need all those other things the Apple Watch does? Well then don't buy one, its not for you. But complaining that the Apple Watch doesn't get the same battery life is like complaining that a private jet is more expensive than your car, but you only need the car to begin with.


Apple's problem is they try to make things thin even at the cost of lost functionality.

People don't want bulky, awkward watches. What functionality is being lost due to "thinness" and what does that have to do with the profitability of manufacturing the Apple Watch to begin with?!
 
Then you are missing out. The Apple Watch is an amazing device. It has come in so handy so many times in my life and I wasn’t sure it would when I bought it. I use ii and rely on it far more than I ever thought possible. And the battery life isn’t horrible. I get about a day and a half. That’s pretty good for a device that small that does so much and that like ipedro said, is basically a small computer on your wrist.

If you want 7 days out of that...well, good luck. You’ll be waiting 20 years or more for that!

I'd love to hear more. I am kind where you were... not quite sure. But thinking of biting into Series 3 with the price it is at, get a taste of the Apple watch. I know some use cases straight away - dragging out the phone for audible is incovenient. Messaging, and call notifications on the watch would be handy too. I doubt it does heart rate tracking as accurately as a chest strap monitor for intense jump-y workouts, but I do have a chest strap monitor so that's all right.

I think mostly I am just getting swayed by all the apple watches I see around.
 
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It might be due to their own management issues. Apple Watch is the best selling wearable device right now.

I do not own one and I will not until they give me a good battery life, some of the competitors can go up to 7 days on a single charge, I just do not trust their quality.
Other watches offer more battery life but only a handful of similar features. I have no problem charging my watch while I’m sleeping
 
Then you are missing out. The Apple Watch is an amazing device. It has come in so handy so many times in my life and I wasn’t sure it would when I bought it. I use ii and rely on it far more than I ever thought possible. And the battery life isn’t horrible. I get about a day and a half. That’s pretty good for a device that small that does so much and that like ipedro said, is basically a small computer on your wrist.

If you want 7 days out of that...well, good luck. You’ll be waiting 20 years or more for that!
I can get through 24/7 without the Apple Watch 😂
So, I get unlimited days out of my analog watch, and only if I do serious sports, I put on a serious sports watch. I don’t get this 24/7 gadget dependency...
 
You sound like you work for Apple. Lots of people won't buy a smart watch until they can get a week out of it. And yes, those other watches are smart watches and can do way more than you give them credit for. Are they an Apple watch? Of course not.
Well , of course there are smartwatches that can last more than the Apple Watch, but you have to settle for less functionality. Which is perfectly ok, not everyone needs the full features of an AW. I have a Withings, as well as an Apple Watch 4. The Withings can last up to 15 days,sometimes more. The AW 2 days ( since the latest OS release). I love the Withings because of the analog watch aspect, and I wear it sometimes instead of the AW, but it is far, far more limited than the AW.

At this point in time, you can't have it both, it's either long battery time / limited features, or the opposite.
 
That is true. Most of the time I am able to get through the day with a single charge.

But as the rumors suggested (official) sleep tracking is coming to Apple Watch soon, when will be a good time to charge it? It will be an interesting problem to solve ...

Great point. My experience (YMMV) is that for those times I've either worn my watch overnight, or just forgot to charge it (yes... alcohol was likely involved) then 30 minutes while I showered/shaved/dressed the next morning gave me enough juice to last the day. Not a full charge, but I usually run a 45%/day burn rate.
 
I thought the Apple Watch was flying off shelves...
Apple watches flying off the shelves means profit for Apple, not necessarily Quanta. The complaint in the article states lack of profit for Quanta (not Apple) as reason for wanting to exit AW manufacturing. Contract manufacturing doesn't typically generate high margin profit and the manufacturers primarily get by on volume. If the volume generates profit that is too minimal or worse, negative, selling the under performing plant makes sense. It's all speculation so we don't know if it's true or not. Apple does have a reputation of squeezing suppliers to maximize their profit so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
That is true. Most of the time I am able to get through the day with a single charge.

But as the rumors suggested (official) sleep tracking is coming to Apple Watch soon, when will be a good time to charge it? It will be an interesting problem to solve ...

I have recently converted to sleeping with mine on and using sleep tracking. I charge mine for 20-30 minutes after I get home for the day, and again while I'm in the shower (if needed) in the morning. My watch so far is usually at 100% when I go to put it back on for the day.
 
i think this is huge news.
i dont think it has anything to do with the trade war.
its more about china loosing competitiveness over all, in spite of the Yuan reaching a 10 year low of 7.17/USD today. china still cant be competitive even at this low exchange rate.

foretells even more big moves coming in apple's supply chain to incentivize more india assembly.

The tariffs are absolutely a factor. Apple has already begun to shift production away from China and into India and other SE Asian nations. China sees that they are going to be losing billions in the coming years and it's having a market effect.
 
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I do not own one and I will not until they give me a good battery life, some of the competitors can go up to 7 days on a single charge, I just do not trust their quality.
This is exactly what I need, 7 days battery. Between iPad, iPhone and then Apple Watch I’m getting battery charge fatigue.
 
What can the Apple watch do that a standard garmin 945 cant? Or vivoactive?

I use my garmin for workouts,runs, cycling. It tracks everything,gps constantly on. Lets me upload data to strava, it connects to my watch so i know when an sms or email comes in. I got heartrate and always on display, super long battery life. Activity tracking with gps for 5 hrs only uses 10%ish.

it tracks so much data you can go nuts analyzing it. When im out riding, garmin has a feature to track where my friends are, theres even a live playback of your ride where garmin tracks the cyclists around you and lets you know where they are relative to you in animation.

it tracks the daily temperature, altitude climbed and so much more.

it has ant and bluetooth so i can connect to any speed cadence meter for cycling, power meters and running cadence sensors too.

sometimes i wear it to work so it tracks my steps, how many stairs i climbed as well.

so how is the apple watch better? Using some app in a tiny screen? Im serious though,how is an apple watch superior?
 
This is exactly what I need, 7 days battery. Between iPad, iPhone and then Apple Watch I’m getting battery charge fatigue.
One month or one year would be better, but those aren’t happening either.

If the watch doesn’t offer sufficient value/usefulness to you to make it worth spending 10 or 15 seconds putting it on the charger at night, maybe the Apple Watch isn’t for you.
 
I do not own one and I will not until they give me a good battery life, some of the competitors can go up to 7 days on a single charge, I just do not trust their quality.

I had the same battery fears before I got my watch. It is much less of an issue than I thought it would be. I have the series three and I easily make it through 2 days at a time.
 
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The tariffs are absolutely a factor. Apple has already begun to shift production away from China and into India and other SE Asian nations. China sees that they are going to be losing billions in the coming years and it's having a market effect.

no supply chain the size of apple's products makes changes that have decades long implications based on 3 months of a one-time, one-off president. it doesnt happen like that.

as you admit, apple is getting more and more involved with india. it is a continuation of that, due to the uncertainties both political and economic of dealing with china.
 
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It might be due to their own management issues. Apple Watch is the best selling wearable device right now.

I do not own one and I will not until they give me a good battery life, some of the competitors can go up to 7 days on a single charge, I just do not trust their quality.

I have worn mine every day for a few years now. I usually get 24 hours. It’s not perfect, I know. But, to not acknowledge the “quality” of the Apple Watch is ridiculous. It’s quite amazing.
 
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