Question about internet speeds

[sushi]

FWIW, Speedtest doesn't show sustained throughput.

care to explain? seems pretty sustained to me (for short term anyway).

You sort of answered your question with your statement.

Speedtest and similar sites run a short duration test to check your bandwidth. Just like USB vs. Firewire, short term transfers are not necessarily indicative of long term (larger) transfers. File size, duration, distance to your ISP (ADSL), distance from the source, the server, etc. can affect your actual throughput.

For fun, download Mac OS 9.2.1 from Apple's site. The file is 82MB in size. Dial up used to take about 6.5 hours. Typical ADSL around here is 2-3 minutes. FIOS is around 1-2 minutes. My friends FTTH was 7-12 seconds.

Of course the infrastructure is continually improving to support our increased thirst for speed.

On day we'll look back on my friend's FTTH connection and reminisce on how slow it was.

 

[DoFoT9]

You sort of answered your question with your statement.

Speedtest and similar sites run a short duration test to check your bandwidth. Just like USB vs. Firewire, short term transfers are not necessarily indicative of long term (larger) transfers. File size, duration, distance to your ISP (ADSL), distance from the source, the server, etc. can affect your actual throughput.

For fun, download Mac OS 9.2.1 from Apple's site. The file is 82MB in size. Dial up used to take about 6.5 hours. Typical ADSL around here is 2-3 minutes. FIOS is around 1-2 minutes. My friends FTTH was 7-12 seconds.

Of course the infrastructure is continually improving to support our increased thirst for speed.

On day we'll look back on my friend's FTTH connection and reminisce on how slow it was.

i would like to know how large the file size is of the speedtest's test. i would take a guess that they are around 10mb or so. i think that is large enough to give a sustained rate, or very close to it. burst rates normally only last 1-2 seconds (unless your on a freakishly good internet provider haha).

i just ran a test and found out the packet size totals about 8.45mb. i get 16.17mb DL, 0.77mb UL with a ping of 28ms, which is pretty close to my 20/1 (i have to connect to a server that is 1000km away dont forget). from a reliable server i can get 2MB/s constant rate.

my experience with speedtest gives nearly spot on constant download rates, provided that there isnt too much traffic in your local area/country.

if my numbers are correct, i would be able to download the os9 9.2.1 in about 41seconds on my ADSL2+ connection, not bad.

File size, duration, distance to your ISP (ADSL), distance from the source, the server, etc. can affect your actual throughput.

very true, but in most cases the bolded ones will not change and are irrelevant to download speed regardless of file size. the underlined one might be effected over say 5 hours - but not over 10minutes or so (unless a VERY sudden change occurs haha)

 

[sushi]

if my numbers are correct, i would be able to download the os9 9.2.1 in about 41seconds on my ADSL2+ connection, not bad.

Well, is your estimate correct?

How long did it take?

 

[DoFoT9]

Well, is your estimate correct?

How long did it take?

my estimates were way off, because of my location. i am only hitting 100KB/s and it would take 20minutes. if apple has these hosted in australia it would look a lot nicer

i should add that software upgrades to the current OS from apple max out my connection, which is about 2MB/s.

 

[sushi]

my estimates were way off, because of my location. i am only hitting 100KB/s and it would take 20minutes. if apple has these hosted in australia it would look a lot nicer

i should add that software upgrades to the current OS from apple max out my connection, which is about 2MB/s.

Since my friend, who was in Japan, can DL the file from 7-12 seconds, it tells me somewhere in your chain is a bottleneck as it usually the case.

In my experience, typical Internet connections slow down a bit when you exceed a 10MB file, and when you hit 50MB slow down a bit more, and finally when you pass the 100MB it gets even slower.

Some of this is due to ISP throttling. Some of this is due to your network limitations. There are so many variables.

Almost weekly I have folks approach me asking why their DL speeds are so much slower than advertised. The exception has been FTTH. Not many have FTTH but those that due, it's wonderful.

 

[DoFoT9]

sorry for the late reply, had to shop haha

Since my friend, who was in Japan, can DL the file from 7-12 seconds, it tells me somewhere in your chain is a bottleneck as it usually the case.

australia is the pitts for internet, so i can see why its slow as.

In my experience, typical Internet connections slow down a bit when you exceed a 10MB file, and when you hit 50MB slow down a bit more, and finally when you pass the 100MB it gets even slower.

we do not have those bandwidth limitations here in australia. if they brought it in i would be outraged (even more so). i can download a 2gb file just as fast as i can a 10mb one.

Some of this is due to ISP throttling. Some of this is due to your network limitations. There are so many variables.

three main problems:
1. copper wire, ADSL
2. slow exchanges
3. proxy servers (or lack of)

Almost weekly I have folks approach me asking why their DL speeds are so much slower than advertised. The exception has been FTTH. Not many have FTTH but those that due, it's wonderful.

that is mostly because of the B/b differences, with cable (a luxury we do not have in 90% of the country) it depends on your neighbour usage as it can be effected by what they are downloading. with ADSL it depends on your copper quality..

 

[sushi]

i can download a 2gb file just as fast as i can a 10mb one.

I'm sorry, but I find that hard to believe.

1. copper wire, ADSL

Copper wire can be a misnomer.

Sure the wire itself can be an issue, but connectors, routing, length, frequency filters, distance from the exchange and other can also affect throughput.

that is mostly because of the B/b differences

Are you referring to Bytes verses Bits?

If so, the standard bandwidth is measured in Bits per second.

FTTH is 100Mbps which ends up being around the high 80's due to handshaking, error correction and other protocols. FTTH is the fastest most consistent connection that I've seen for the home market.

Here in Japan, they are using VDSL which seems to work fairly well for apartment buildings. Fiber is laid to the apartment building, then via a substation at the apartment, routed to each apartment using ADSL.

 

[DoFoT9]

I'm sorry, but I find that hard to believe.

i am being serious! our ISPs put no caps on the size of our downloads at all, but we have pathetic total downloads haha.

if i could find a fast enough server and a large enough file that i wanted to DL, i could make a youtube vid and show you.

Copper wire can be a misnomer.

Sure the wire itself can be an issue, but connectors, routing, length, frequency filters, distance from the exchange and other can also affect throughput.

oh yes there are tons of things! you forgot to mention other network traffic too

Are you referring to Bytes verses Bits?

If so, the standard bandwidth is measured in Bits per second.

yup bits vs bytes - thats why a lot of people get mixed up when they are not seeing their advertised data throughput, kinda like the same thing in HDDs.

FTTH is 100Mbps which ends up being around the high 80's due to handshaking, error correction and other protocols. FTTH is the fastest most consistent connection that I've seen for the home market.

Here in Japan, they are using VDSL which seems to work fairly well for apartment buildings. Fiber is laid to the apartment building, then via a substation at the apartment, routed to each apartment using ADSL.

i could only dream of getting FTTH, our government is apparently implementing it, but it will cost us. the estimated costs of the upgrade are 40billion Aus, if 80% of current ADSL users go onto it the least expensive plan will be $250Aus a month! . so yea.. ADSL2+ for me it is

 

[hotzenplotz]

Prompted me to double check my speed



Any other fiber users to compare too?

 

[tinla]

Hi!!!

It is a good information about internet speed test!!!
I test my internet speed, through this site www.ip-details.com/internet-speed-test
My speed test results are,
upload speed:0.52 kbps
download speed:1.96 kbps
I check my speed test before and after of the downloading process!!!!!!

 

[DoFoT9]

It is a good information about internet speed test!!!
I test my internet speed, through this site www.ip-details.com/internet-speed-test
My speed test results are,
upload speed:0.52 kbps
download speed:1.96 kbps
I check my speed test before and after of the downloading process!!!!!!

those are some terrible internet speeds!