Everytime i write a message to someone, it shows up in my inbox as a new mail. Is there a way to keep sent mail out of the inbox?
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I'm not quite sure, but I think it has to do with how gmail groups messages into "conversations". I double checked that I wasn't CC'ing or BCC'ing myself, and that the option to do it automatically was off, but it still ended up in my inbox.
In gmail, if you were to reply to an email, then view the whole conversation thread, the one you just sent is automatically in there, viewable in your inbox. So I think it's a "feature" of gmail that doesn't quite port to a non gmail interface.
In gmail, if you were to reply to an email, then view the whole conversation thread, the one you just sent is automatically in there, viewable in your inbox. So I think it's a "feature" of gmail that doesn't quite port to a non gmail interface.
I believe that's the way that Gmail works on with any remote POP client. (You see the same behavior in Mail.app at any rate.)
The official Google stance is that this is a "feature" and not a bug - and is needed server side to handle the way messages are threaded.
You can work around this behavior (I've read) by creating a filter in Gmail that takes messages that you write from your return address and archiving them (and skipping the inbox with them.)
It's taken me some time but I've got it figured out:
By default, GMail on the iPhone is enabled in 'recent mode' where it pulls down your 25 (or 50 or whatever) most recent emails. In this mode it is not actually acting as a true POP3 email client. When the messages download, they are not being cleared out of your inbox.
That being said, and establishing that it's not operating as the standard mail.app would on a Mac, it operates almost as if you were just using GMail's web interface as far as sending mail is concerned.
To understand, go to GMails web interface, send a message to someone. Then look at Mail.app on your Mac. The next time it retrieves mail, it will receive the message you sent. This is due to the way that GMail's archive folder is set up. Since messages are essentially in one giant folder, Mail pulls all messages that have not been previously downloaded.
So when you access it on your iPhone, you are essentially looking at the 25 (or whatever) most recent emails, which includes emails you sent.
You can disable recent mode on the iPhone by going to the advanced mail settings. This will cause the iPhone to operate more like Mail.app, pulling messages off the server using POP3. Do note however, that if a message is downloaded to your iPhone, it will not be available to be downloaded later to your Mail.app.
By default, GMail on the iPhone is enabled in 'recent mode' where it pulls down your 25 (or 50 or whatever) most recent emails. In this mode it is not actually acting as a true POP3 email client. When the messages download, they are not being cleared out of your inbox.
That being said, and establishing that it's not operating as the standard mail.app would on a Mac, it operates almost as if you were just using GMail's web interface as far as sending mail is concerned.
To understand, go to GMails web interface, send a message to someone. Then look at Mail.app on your Mac. The next time it retrieves mail, it will receive the message you sent. This is due to the way that GMail's archive folder is set up. Since messages are essentially in one giant folder, Mail pulls all messages that have not been previously downloaded.
So when you access it on your iPhone, you are essentially looking at the 25 (or whatever) most recent emails, which includes emails you sent.
You can disable recent mode on the iPhone by going to the advanced mail settings. This will cause the iPhone to operate more like Mail.app, pulling messages off the server using POP3. Do note however, that if a message is downloaded to your iPhone, it will not be available to be downloaded later to your Mail.app.
its not an issue its just Gmail - i know bc i had a blackberry and i had to change filters .
i have no idea how to work around the filters for the iphone, if someone gets to the bottom of this please speak up!
you can, but the down side is that any mail fetched by any other client (marked as read on the server) will not get downloaded to your iPhone.
Just set up a filter to send messages FROM: yourgmailaddress@gmail.com to get archived (skip in box) and you're all set.
Just set up a filter to send messages FROM: yourgmailaddress@gmail.com to get archived (skip in box) and you're all set.
I tried the trick mentioned above (auto-archive messages from yourself), but that didn't do anything. Still getting mails from myself...
...any other ideas?
...any other ideas?
And do I understand this correctly? That if I get turn off recent mode, the mails I get on my iPhone won't show up in my Mail.app inbox?
With recent mode "on" it downloads the most recent messages regardless if they have been pulled by another client prior to your accessing them. With it off, if it has been pulled by another client, iPhone will not download it (it must me marked as unread on the server).
Will using this method keep those messages out of the 'conversation threads' when accessing gmail through the website inbox? For example, If I respond to my friends email via the website, will my response not show up in the conversation like it usually does and just show his emails to me?
EDIT: I tried this method and it didn't work. Secondly, I tried the method in turning off recent mode, and it wouldn't retrieve mail altogether! I'm think Gmail might need to make some changes for this to work correctly.
I've got my Gmail POP settings to archive mail once downloaded. Even with this setting the iPhone manages to d/l mail I've already retrieved on my computer. It's maddening.
Anyone know if there is a way to make this stop so it only d/ls NEW mail?
I'm having the same problem -- sent emails showing up as new emails in the inbox on my iPhone. Setting up the filter suggested above didn't resolve the problem. Has anyone called Apple about this?
I just tried setting the filter to "delete" (I didn't see a "send to trash" option); that results in an error every time I send an email from the Gmail web page. So that's not an option. Does anyone have any other ideas?
I just did this and it works.
Go to gmail settings, filters, in the from box type "your name" and click next step, then click "delete it" then click update filter. Let me know if this helps.