Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

MacRumors

macrumors bot
Original poster
Apr 12, 2001
68,283
39,092



iOS 13 will not be compatible with the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, or iPhone SE, and support for the original iPad Air and iPad mini 2 will also be dropped, according to a questionable rumor tipped to us by French blog iPhoneSoft.fr.

iphone-6-iphone-se.jpg

This is at least the second time we've heard this rumor this year, but it remains questionable for a few reasons. For one, the iPhone SE uses the same A9 chip as the iPhone 6s and the fifth-generation iPad, so it would seem inconsistent if the iPhone SE was dropped but the latter two devices remained supported.

It could be theorized that Apple wants to drop support for iOS devices with 4-inch displays, including the iPhone 5s and iPhone SE, but there is again some inconsistency there, as the sixth-generation iPod touch will allegedly run iOS 13.

This rumor would be significant if accurate, however, as the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus in particular were tremendously popular devices that are likely still in the hands of many millions of customers. Meanwhile, the fan-favorite iPhone SE was only released just over three years ago, in March 2016.

iOS 13 is expected to be unveiled at Apple's annual WWDC keynote on June 3, so we'll find out for sure in less than a month.

Article Link: Questionable Rumor Says iOS 13 Will Drop Support for iPhone 5s, iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, and iPhone SE
 
There is no way that A7 based mini 3 gets ios 13. It can barely run anything newer than iOS 9… I can see SE being dropped only because they may wanna stop development for 4’’ sizes. But also very unlikely as it’s being sold everywhere at authorised resellers.
 
Meanwhile, the fan-favorite iPhone SE was only released just over three years ago, in March 2016.

The 32 and 128 GB versions are even just 2 years old. If this turns out to be true, then my SE will have had the same poor upgrade support that my previous Androids had, and which made me switch to the iPhone. So I really hope this is a false rumor. I'd probably switch to annual Android burners.
 
Dropping support for the 6 would be surprising, but I think that phone is basically the iPad 3 of iPhones, it launched with underwhelming specs and might actually be unable to handle a new OS. Let's not forget that iOS12 was largely centered on performance tweaks than any big new features, so if iOS13 is a return to a more substantial update the 1GB of RAM may have finally become the straw that broke the camel's back.

At the end of the day, the iPhone 6/Plus will be 5 years old by the time iOS13 officially launches, I think that's still a reasonable period of time to use a phone for. Most people will probably have gone through at least one phone contract in that timeframe.
 
I think it should be left up to the phone owner to decide if they want to upgrade and take a supposed speed hit.
I see where you're coming from but if you try and put yourself in Apple's shoes they'd probably have tons and tons of angry customers complaining about how a new update impacted the performance of their old phone because they don't keep up with the OS updates and just update when there's one available.
 
Apple just sold their remaining inventory of brand new SE's online a few months ago, of which I bought one. They had three of these SE dumps over a few week's time. If the rumor is true and my two SE's will no longer be upgradable, I will begin a campaign of forced obsolescence for corporate CEO's, too.
 
So what if it's true. Not going to miss the next animoji pack or dark mode.
If the older phones are dropped, there better be a good explanation as to why, otherwise we'll come to our own conclusion$
 
They also have the same ram, 2gb in both, so it's not that.

Dropping the SE at this point would be unforgivable IMHO. It's identical internally to a 6S and younger too.
Oh I didn’t realise the SE also had 2GB. I agree though I think it would be unfair as the SE came out after the 6S.

I think when they continued support for the 5S last year it made it difficult to predict which devices would get support going forward. Prior to that it was quite clear cut with the only real outlier being the iPad 2.
 
They were still selling the SE until this past year. To drop software update support a year later would invite lawsuits - the least they would need to do is to continue to provide security updates to iOS 12, but that's not Apple's MO for iOS - they say if you want latest security patches, upgrade to the latest OS (vs MacOS where you can still get security patches on previous major versions).
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.