"APPLE IS ISOLATING ITSELF" That my friend will be the biggest reason the iPhone will lose market share in the near future.
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"APPLE IS ISOLATING ITSELF" That my friend will be the biggest reason the iPhone will lose market share in the near future.
Of course, all of you saying this realize that these exact same arguments were made about the iPod and the iTunes Store. The old example set by Microsoft back in the early days of the Mac and Windows is not applicable to everything. Every device does not have to be promiscuously linked to every company and product out there. That was true of PCs but, so far, we've seen little evidence to support the argument that it must be true for smaller, more limited devices to succeed.
What is the "near future", why hasn't the "near future" materialised yet despite such negative predictions? Does the near future mean whatever you might want it to mean? And lose shares to who, the vapourwares of hp slate, courrier, and the as yet unnamed google tablet? Lose shares to who? To companies that won't even have available products in six months at the earliest, or some of them might never have any competing products? How many shares did the ipod lose?
You are correct about the iPod.
But we are also entering different times now: The iPod had by far the best UI in its segment, and iTunes was way ahead of competing systems. There simply no competition.
The same was true for the iPhone, until the end of 2009. There was nothing that could touch the iPhone in terms of UI and ease of use.
More importantly, there was never such anger among Apple users towards the iPod. The iPhone started to rile up users when Apple "bricked" some iPhones initially, but most of us learned to live with it, once jailbreaking became well-established.
The iPad and its pointed exclusion of Flash, as part of Apple's further tightening of the noose around its i-Captive audience were the last straw for me, personally. And I am certainly not alone, among long-time Apple users.
There is a perfect storm, IMO, as there is rising anger toward the walled garden (I actually believe that after the initial OS 4 jailbreaks, Apple will lock its ecosystems tighter, and jailbreaking will become much harder).
But for the first time, there is also a viable competitor, in Android 2+. Certainly Jobs took notice of it.
I've played with a Nexus One, and it's almost as good as my 3G S. By 2.2, with full Flash, Android should be as good as OS4 in UI, and better because it will have a full browser (with Flash) and it will be more open. The apps I use are already on Android, and look and work the same as on the iPhone (I guess that's why Jobs banned crosscompilers).
The same is with tablets. Normally, I would have jumped on the iPad. But now I am holding out for one of the Androids coming out.
We'll see what happens. I personally feels Apple has become too arogant, and Jobs has picked too many fights, with Google, Adobe, and most importantly, his customers.
The sales numbers that Apple just released do not support your assertion that there is a perfect storm of anger growing toward Apple. In fact, people seemed downright ravenous to get their hands on an iPad (witness the outrage of European customers when they learned the would have to wait longer than expected) and iPhone sales were shockingly high for a product that hasn't seen a refresh in 9 months and was up against some well-advertised competition. Anger would be huge drops in sales. Anger would be a lack of interest in Apple's newer products. That's not only not happening, but we're seeing the complete reverse of that. Have you stepped foot in an Apple Store in the last few weeks? The two I've been in have been packed. There's no consumer anger.
However, I do see lots of carping and anger about the technical shortcomings of the iPhone and iPad on sites like Slashdot and Digg, but hear none of it in the real world. The fact is, geeks are a niche market and their anger, no matter how justifiable, simply doesn't register. They're throwing rocks at the moon. Regular consumers like what Apple does and there is no perfect storm of anger against Apple's approach outside the geek-o-sphere.
An important feature for some. (so much for others)
So, it sounds like we agree to agree!
And I suspect that most of the people in the examples that you cite typically are at a desktop or 3G-enabled laptop when conducting such business - not solely at the mercy of AT&T's spotty 3G coverage. I certainly hope that my local law enforcement and emergency services aren't depending on Iphones for voice+data.
iPHONE - Apps
Hi there,
Just wondering if anyone could please help.
I have just bought a new iMAC however, Im having trouble adding my apps on to my iphone from my mac. There are all there I have transfered all my Apps and Music to my iMAC now I just need to find out how I transfer them to my iphone. i know it seems like a simple question i have restored and updated my iphone however i go to sync apps on to my iphone but it doesnt sync...
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Hi there,
Just wondering if anyone could please help.
I have just bought a new iMAC however, Im having trouble adding my apps on to my iphone from my mac. There are all there I have transfered all my Apps and Music to my iMAC now I just need to find out how I transfer them to my iphone. i know it seems like a simple question i have restored and updated my iphone however i go to sync apps on to my iphone but it doesnt sync...
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
If you can see all your apps in iTunes (Apps under Library on the left), then the computer should be authorized.
Perhaps you have not checked the appropriate boxes to sync to your particular iPhone (select the phone in iTunes, select the apps tab and see if you have). Or your apps are all cracked...
BTW, this is most certainly the wrong thread to ask for this kind of help.
Hm, iPhone sales are certainly down, although it is most likely because of end of life.
The iPad certainly sold less than the wild estimates here (remember - 700k predicted in the first day).
But that's not the point. I am just pointing out that for the first time in iPhone's history there is a viable alternative, and with so many of us disaffected over Apple's recent decisions, a bunch may make a different choice over the coming year.
I think I will.
Yes, we apparently agree that your fanboy premise about Verizon's network was ludicrous.So, it sounds like we agree to agree!
And, as I suspect, you're wrong, again.
Lugging a desktop or futzing with a 3G laptop would be both cumbersome and counterproductive by comparison, especially while commuting or working outside the office.
3G coverage in the Tri-State area (NYC, NJ, CT) happens to have been quite superb during the past year - no dropped calls, and very fast 3G. (significantly faster than Verizon's 2.5G speeds)
Of course, law enforcers have their own frequencies to operate from, whenever necessary.
Friends of mine in the NYPD have found the voice+data capability to be extremely useful - many of whom have dumped Verizon previously, due to their deceptive fees and excessive charges.
Yes, we apparently agree that your fanboy premise about Verizon's network was ludicrous.
And, as I suspect, you're wrong, again.
Lugging a desktop or futzing with a 3G laptop would be both cumbersome and counterproductive by comparison, especially while commuting or working outside the office.
3G coverage in the Tri-State area (NYC, NJ, CT) happens to have been quite superb during the past year - no dropped calls, and very fast 3G. (significantly faster than Verizon's 2.5G speeds)
Of course, law enforcers have their own frequencies to operate from, whenever necessary.
Friends of mine in the NYPD have found the voice+data capability to be extremely useful - many of whom have dumped Verizon previously, due to their deceptive fees and excessive charges.
The only time I've seen policeman with laptops is the ones they have bolted into their cars.
Oh and the AA.
I personally couldn't care about CDMA, its practically dead or shoved into the corner for WCDMA/GSM.
Running Windows 2000 - we won't mention the spotty reliability.
Agreed - so much for global coverage.
(there's a 'world atlas' for that)1) The majority of Americans don't travel overseas frequently enough to justify GSM in itself, especially as the iPhone is locked to AT&T so the roaming rates are atrocious anyway (ie. you'd be better off with a cheap dumbphone and a PAYG sim card).
2) Voice + data works over wifi, that alone covers a lot of the time you need it. The other times over 3G, you just tell the other person "let me email you the document" or "I'll text you the Sushi restaurant location". As Steve Jobs would say, no big deal.
Bottom line, if you really need it (and I do understand it being preferable for business users) then by all means stay GSM. But for the millions on Verizon or Sprint, it's a small tradeoff for better reliability, cheaper rates etc.
2) Voice + data works over wifi, that alone covers a lot of the time you need it. The other times over 3G, you just tell the other person "let me email you the document" or "I'll text you the Sushi restaurant location". As Steve Jobs would say, no big deal.
Bottom line, if you really need it (and I do understand it being preferable for business users) then by all means stay GSM. But for the millions on Verizon or Sprint, it's a small tradeoff for better reliability, cheaper rates etc.
Quite true. And I harbor no illusions that one of the reasons Apple is developing iAds is to deny Google a percentage of appplication-sourced ad revenue on the iPhone. However, iAds should hopefully present end-users with a "nicer" advertising experience (though Apple's guidelines) while allowing App Store developers to monetize their "free" apps through advertising.
Absolutely.
But this is an aggregate figure covering the entire continental United States, is it not?
As I understand it, the real problems with AT&T's network is in select cities and geographic areas like New York City and the San Francisco Bay Area. It's not a case that AT&T network performance with an iPhone is poor anywhere AT&T offers service. Here in the greater Seattle I have no issues with AT&T performance (voice or data) with my iPhone and it's worked fine in Portland and San Diego.
That being said, my statement did paint with a very broad brush. So I should have narrowed my comments to seeing how Verizon's (and Sprint's) existing network in cities with significant iPhone populations and iPhone voice and data usage would fare if subjected to the "iPhone load" on top of their current loads from cellphones, smartphones and laptop cellular connections.
I know, right?
I know you're joking, and I'm not offended, but some fun facts are:
Knoxville - hosted world fair in 1982, has highest PHDs per capita in country, UT medicine is one of top in nation as well as Vanderbilt in Nashville
Chattanooga - World's largest freshwater aquarium, Hunter Museum of American Art which is home to important works by Stella, Hanson, Elaine de Kooning, many more, Volkswagen is in the process of building a manufacturing plant to be complete next year, origin of Coca-Cola, Chattem Inc. (makers of Icy Hot & much more), The tow truck was invented here, and home to my badd ass.
Nashville - Country music capitol of the world (woop de doo) Vandy ( as I mentioned) and home to the ATT "Bat Man" building which everyone loves... And I'm sure much more.
And then, Memphis. Which is pretty much lame, but has a pretty good music scene from what I hear. I call west Tennessee "Southern Michigan", but whatever.
Yeah.... Especially since there is only one road where you live in Tennessee....
I know you're joking, and I'm not offended, but some fun facts are:
Knoxville - hosted world fair in 1982, has highest PHDs per capita in country, UT medicine is one of top in nation as well as Vanderbilt in Nashville
Chattanooga - World's largest freshwater aquarium, Hunter Museum of American Art which is home to important works by Stella, Hanson, Elaine de Kooning, many more, Volkswagen is in the process of building a manufacturing plant to be complete next year, origin of Coca-Cola, Chattem Inc. (makers of Icy Hot & much more), The tow truck was invented here, and home to my badd ass.
Nashville - Country music capitol of the world (woop de doo) Vandy ( as I mentioned) and home to the ATT "Bat Man" building which everyone loves... And I'm sure much more.
And then, Memphis. Which is pretty much lame, but has a pretty good music scene from what I hear. I call west Tennessee "Southern Michigan", but whatever.
Yep, only joking, of course
Didn't know about the number of PHDs in Knoxville - I learned something new today
I do use turn-by turn all the time, though - built-in mostly, but Navigon on the iPhone when I travel (Navigon now includes Google local search, which is great).
I'll stick with my TomTom app. Google Nav requires a data connection, and those bills would be hellish if I was roaming down in the US.
Wrong.
"When it comes to the iPhone, Google’s carpet-bombing with dozens of Android handsets, the aging iPhone hardware, and rumors of a new iPhone – now leaked to the web at large – doesn’t seem to have taken a toll on sales at all. Apple sales more than doubled on an annual basis – a whopping 8.75 million units were sold during the quarter, which is more than during the holiday quarter. In addition, that metric represents both a sequential and annual increase of .57 percent and 131 percent in units, respectively."
Yeah, well, it took them about a week to reach those wild estimates. So they didn't hit 700k in one day. You're implying that's somehow disappointing sales? I'm guessing nobody at Apple is particularly disappointed about that.
You're backpedalling. You were saying that you were not alone in your anger at Apple and that sales showed that. I've shown you otherwise. I think there is a fraction of the niche market of geek buyers who is angry at Apple, but that's an insignificant number of buyers and a group that Apple is clearly not interested in catering to. When you look at how Apple's products are playing to consumers in general, it's hard to make the case that there's a "perfect storm of anger" as you put it. I'm open to your argument, but so far, I don't see it, and your insistence that sales are dropping off is completely opposite reality. Sales of Apple products across the board are fantastic, even in what is historically their weakest quarter.
