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Quick reply, open API?

Johndoezz10

Johndoezz10

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Hello,

is quick reply available for developers to implement in their app? So will quick reply work with third party apps? e.g. Whatsapp?
 
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WordMasterRice

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Actually no, I don't think so. I've been over the docs looking for this and there doesn't appear to be any quick reply API for 3rd party apps.

Yes, any app can have actionable notifications, but they are limited to button presses, no text input that I can find.

batting1000 said:
Yes, there is an API for it, and at WWDC, one of the pictures they showed used the Facebook app as an example.
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The facebook example used buttons for like and comment, but no quick reply.
 
GreyOS

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Yes it's an API. FYI Banner and lock screen notifications get 2 actions. Alerts get up to 4 actions.
 
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batting1000

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WordMasterRice said:
The facebook example used buttons for like and comment, but no quick reply.
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They'll likely implement that for the Facebook Messenger app. I think I remember seeing a report that said they would be phasing out the Messages part of the Facebook and pushing the use of the Messenger app.
 
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WordMasterRice said:
Actually no, I don't think so. I've been over the docs looking for this and there doesn't appear to be any quick reply API for 3rd party apps.

Yes, any app can have actionable notifications, but they are limited to button presses, no text input that I can find.



The facebook example used buttons for like and comment, but no quick reply.
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Oh yeah, good point, sorry for confusion.

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batting1000 said:
They'll likely implement that for the Facebook Messenger app. I think I remember seeing a report that said they would be phasing out the Messages part of the Facebook and pushing the use of the Messenger app.
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He's saying it might not be possible for Facebook OR Messenger to have quick reply. Only buttons.

Although it may be a slightly special case as they're sort of integrated into the OS. But I doubt it. So unless we've missed documentation on quick reply API, I doubt FB/Messenger would be able to do this.
 
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WordMasterRice

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batting1000 said:
They'll likely implement that for the Facebook Messenger app. I think I remember seeing a report that said they would be phasing out the Messages part of the Facebook and pushing the use of the Messenger app.
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Right but that doesn't change the fact that nowhere in the documentation, nor in the notification sessions at WWDC did they mention anything other than single action buttons as actionable notification APIs
 
Johndoezz10

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WordMasterRice said:
Actually no, I don't think so. I've been over the docs looking for this and there doesn't appear to be any quick reply API for 3rd party apps.

Yes, any app can have actionable notifications, but they are limited to button presses, no text input that I can find.



The facebook example used buttons for like and comment, but no quick reply.
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Hmm, really confusing. Some say yes and some say no. Even on reddit they say that it will work with third party apps.

So you think that if you tap on the comment with the Facebook example, it will take you to the app?
 
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Johndoezz10 said:
So you think that if you tap on the comment with the Facebook example, it will take you to the app?
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Yeah. They can be background actions (e.g. Like) or UI actions (e.g. Comment). I'm pretty sure UI actions bring up the app, they can't define some custom bit of UI to put in the banner.
 
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WordMasterRice

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Johndoezz10 said:
Hmm, really confusing. Some say yes and some say no. Even on reddit they say that it will work with third party apps.

So you think that if you tap on the comment with the Facebook example, it will take you to the app?
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The problem is that a lot of people are going off of inference based on watching the keynote, rather than actually reading through the docs to see what is available. Messages doesn't have to use the same API that 3rd party developers do, so there is a good chance that they are limited text input to only Messages for now.
 
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WordMasterRice said:
The problem is that a lot of people are going off of inference based on watching the keynote, rather than actually reading through the docs to see what is available. Messages doesn't have to use the same API that 3rd party developers do, so there is a good chance that they are limited text input to only Messages for now.
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Ok, that i understand, but when you hear Craigh saying it will work also well with third-party apps (http://youtu.be/w87fOAG8fjk?t=52m20s) i thought that it will be accessible for every developer to implement in their app such as Whatsapp.
 
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TC03

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From what I've read, it's currently not possible to use a quick reply API. The only thing 3rd party developers can do is include actionable buttons in the notification. Which is a shame.
 
klamse25

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Actionable buttons are stupid. It's pretty much the same thing we already have! If I wanna reply to a whatsapp message, I just touch it in notification center... Now I can click a "reply" button to do the same exact thing? Oh wow!
 
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klamse25 said:
Actionable buttons are stupid. It's pretty much the same thing we already have! If I wanna reply to a whatsapp message, I just touch it in notification center... Now I can click a "reply" button to do the same exact thing? Oh wow!
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Yeah it's not great, although it's not totally useless, the actionable button(s) can do other things. Like mark as read or something.
 
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Goldfinger

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I doesn't surprise me in the least that they'd keep the text input functionality locked for third parties. Typically Apple. :mad:
 
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Johndoezz10 said:
Hmm, really confusing. Some say yes and some say no. Even on reddit they say that it will work with third party apps.

So you think that if you tap on the comment with the Facebook example, it will take you to the app?
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Unless I am missing something it seems that developers only have access to buttons right now according to the API docs. I don't see anything for adding a text view like Messages does.
 
Johndoezz10

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Any updates on behave of quick reply? Is it included in the latest Xcode? Will it ever be available for 3rd party apps?
 
bushido

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didnt he say during the last keynote that 3rd party apps have access to it too? i think he mentioned "posting on fb" or "a like" as an example
 
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Yep, can't wait, hopefully a few days after the release of iOS 8 to the public we'll see lots of useful updates!
 
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