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Eventually, it will be RIP iTunes :(. Apple only seems interested in Apple music.

Ehhh, I doubt it. It's no skin off their back to leave the iTunes catalog up and running, not to mention the iTunes store is their hub for all mainstream media sales. And if it does go up in smoke? Bandcamp, my friend. They vend a higher quality music product anyway - for a better price no less. Add to that that the artists take more of the money from their sales.
 
If I did get one of these cars, I would skip the offer. I have no desire for Apple music.
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Eventually, it will be RIP iTunes :(. Apple only seems interested in Apple music.
iTunes is branded at bloated and 2007 era program, its probably time to move on from iTunes since we have Apple TV and Apple Music now
 
" A two-bedroom, one-bathroom house in Sunnyvale, near Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California, recently sold for $2 million in cash. At $2,358 per square foot, it's reportedly the highest price per square foot for a home in Sunnyvale ever."

Apple and the other tech companies must expect at least 4 people to live in this house, probably 6+. They can hot bunk the beds, one group taking the early shift and the other the late shift. Sounds like they really care?
 
A two-bedroom, one-bathroom house in Sunnyvale, near Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California, recently sold for $2 million in cash. At $2,358 per square foot, it's reportedly the highest price per square foot for a home in Sunnyvale ever.
2,000,000 / 2,358 = 848 square foot = 79 square metres

OMG that's amazingly small and expensive. Just like Apple products!
 
"often offered 6 figure salary"? er.... our average engineer salaries are around $200k a year. if you only make $100k per person in a family of two people making a total of $200k you will probably starve or have 2 hr commute in bay area. my wife and i make a total of $500+k and we cannot afford to live near our office. we have to live in a $1.3m tiny crappy house far away because we don't want to spend $3m for a 50 years old house in palo alto

sheesh and I thought NYC was bad.
 
iTunes is branded at bloated and 2007 era program, its probably time to move on from iTunes since we have Apple TV and Apple Music now

By "we", do you mean the paltry ~5% (30M/700M) [source: http://fortune.com/2017/03/06/apple-iphone-use-worldwide/] of Apple IDs that actually subscribe to AM? Because "we", the other ~95% still need a way to manage and sync our massive amounts of purchased media without being fleeced every month.

Edit: Math error and updated source.
 
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"often offered 6 figure salary"? er.... our average engineer salaries are around $200k a year. if you only make $100k per person in a family of two people making a total of $200k you will probably starve or have 2 hr commute in bay area. my wife and i make a total of $500+k and we cannot afford to live near our office. we have to live in a $1.3m tiny crappy house far away because we don't want to spend $3m for a 50 years old house in palo alto

As someone who grew up in CA, i find this so sad.
 
So will future Apple Music subscriber statistics include all these free subscriptions? I'm guessing that trailing Apple Music is trying to get their numbers up.
 
As someone who grew up in CA, i find this so sad.
"often offered 6 figure salary"? er.... our average engineer salaries are around $200k a year. if you only make $100k per person in a family of two people making a total of $200k you will probably starve or have 2 hr commute in bay area. my wife and i make a total of $500+k and we cannot afford to live near our office. we have to live in a $1.3m tiny crappy house far away because we don't want to spend $3m for a 50 years old house in palo alto

I haven't lived in the bay area for over a decade now, but if these numbers are typical, then I wonder how can the cities even operate? I'm sure wages have had to go up for everyone else not in tech, but I can't imagine that it's enough. How does the bay area have cops or waiters or bartenders or social workers or teachers? You know, all the other people who make up a city. LA isn't near that yet, but it's ever going upward as well.

Still, I can't say you're going to get a lot of sympathy from a lot of people. A car will cost about the same wherever you go in the US, as will just about anything else other than houses. If you wonder why people want to fire-bomb those buses, know that they have similar feelings about being displaced, but their situation is 1000x worse.
 
I live nearby in even more expensive Palo Alto (sadly I rent and don't own). This is not unusual, it is nearly impossible to find a house for under $2M on the peninsula. Most are sold to chinese investors that are trying to offshore (i.e. launder) their money and keep it away from the chinese gov't. And, the price has little to do with the house, it is all for the land. That house will be torn down and rebuilt, no doubt about it.
 
"often offered 6 figure salary"? er.... our average engineer salaries are around $200k a year. if you only make $100k per person in a family of two people making a total of $200k you will probably starve or have 2 hr commute in bay area. my wife and i make a total of $500+k and we cannot afford to live near our office. we have to live in a $1.3m tiny crappy house far away because we don't want to spend $3m for a 50 years old house in palo alto


"We have to live in a $1.3m tiny crappy house far away".... No disrespect, but you should consider yourself lucky. I am one of those who works 40-80 hours a week (salary) making $75k a year (still more than many people I know), I spend most of it on rent for a house that is falling apart with a 2hour commute in each direction. My dream is to hit $100,000/year, the salary most people here make and take for granted. It would make my life so much easier. The question I get asked most is "how do you live and such a small paycheck". The answer is with many sacrifices.
 
"often offered 6 figure salary"? er.... our average engineer salaries are around $200k a year. if you only make $100k per person in a family of two people making a total of $200k you will probably starve or have 2 hr commute in bay area. my wife and i make a total of $500+k and we cannot afford to live near our office. we have to live in a $1.3m tiny crappy house far away because we don't want to spend $3m for a 50 years old house in palo alto

While Palo Alto is an exception, there a is a bunch of places around it where you can definitely buy a house with that much money in pocket. And it won't be a fixerupper. Heck, you can buy in SF if you're making this much. So if you can't afford it - you're doing it wrong.
 
I think it's disgusting how real estate sellers rim buyers with outrageous prices. But as long as people pay, it won't stop.
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"We have to live in a $1.3m tiny crappy house far away".... No disrespect, but you should consider yourself lucky. I am one of those who works 40-80 hours a week (salary) making $75k a year (still more than many people I know), I spend most of it on rent for a house that is falling apart with a 2hour commute in each direction. My dream is to hit $100,000/year, the salary most people here make and take for granted. It would make my life so much easier. The question I get asked most is "how do you live and such a small paycheck". The answer is with many sacrifices.

Ditto. I work 60-80 hours a week, and make $28k before taxes. Yah, the joys of being self-employed. But at least I have the potential of giving myself a raise if I had some business sense... :p
 
Apple ridiculed the Surface Pro and mocked the "kick stand", but as someone who carries three devices when traveling (iPhone, iPad and Windows laptop) I think a laptop that can work well as a laptop and tablet will be the future. One less piece of equipment to carry/charge.

I'm not saying the Surface Pro is there yet, but I think the appeal of carrying a laptop and a phone, sans tablet, will be the popular.

I have a Surface Pro, and it is all I travel with other than my phone. It basically replaced my work provided Dell Windows laptop, my Mac Mini, and iPad. I love traveling with a lightweight kit, it has great battery life, has pen input, and best of all I can keep it open and use it during take off and landing on a plane. And the kickstand... love it. Just watched Netflix on a 13.5 hour flight a few days ago and the kickstand allowed me to just sit it in my lap and forget about it. What was funny was the flight attendant told me I needed to fold down my video display (I was on a bulkhead seat) when we were landing, and then realized it was my tablet and apologized.
 
6 months of Apple Music for a car (3 months after the free apple 3 month trial)...here I was silly thinking apple should give Apple Music for free for a HomePod purchase.
 
" A two-bedroom, one-bathroom house in Sunnyvale, near Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California, recently sold for $2 million in cash. At $2,358 per square foot, it's reportedly the highest price per square foot for a home in Sunnyvale ever."

Apple and the other tech companies must expect at least 4 people to live in this house, probably 6+. They can hot bunk the beds, one group taking the early shift and the other the late shift. Sounds like they really care?

And that of course is the extreme. I guess it's easier to latch onto that because it's more froth-worthy.
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While Palo Alto is an exception, there a is a bunch of places around it where you can definitely buy a house with that much money in pocket. And it won't be a fixerupper. Heck, you can buy in SF if you're making this much. So if you can't afford it - you're doing it wrong.

And that's very true. But that will never generate forum outrage if people understood that.

I'm shocked Atherton, Woodside, and Hillsborough (also nearby) are not mentioned with even higher prices, some houses going for $20 million+. Hardly typical, but some will latch onto that suggesting it is.
 
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I have a Surface Pro, and it is all I travel with other than my phone. It basically replaced my work provided Dell Windows laptop, my Mac Mini, and iPad. I love traveling with a lightweight kit, it has great battery life, has pen input, and best of all I can keep it open and use it during take off and landing on a plane. And the kickstand... love it. Just watched Netflix on a 13.5 hour flight a few days ago and the kickstand allowed me to just sit it in my lap and forget about it. What was funny was the flight attendant told me I needed to fold down my video display (I was on a bulkhead seat) when we were landing, and then realized it was my tablet and apologized.
I had the surface pro 3, the annoyances accumulated until I replaced it with an iPad Pro and a HP laptop. I get you like those aspects, friends of mine would agree with you.
For me though I really didn’t like the kickstand, I didn’t like a detachable 2 in 1 ( I don’t attach a physical keyboard to the iPad Pro but do use the pencil a lot). I also found touch input on the surface pro nowhere near as good as the iPad Pro. The HP also has a touchscreen, but i mostly use touch on the HP for scrolling and nothing else really.
The iPad Pro battery life is also better, but the biggest reason is fit for purpose. I really need GPS. It seems this LTE surface pro still doesn’t have that.
 
Apple doesn't get it still...

When u take out separate videos because they can be part of Apple music, Apple forgets "if" the right holders choose to.

Although part its 'used by' date, i'm glad Apple are throwing out something else in favor of, er.... something else, but you'd get much better hope of videos staying if it's NOT part of Apple music, simply because right holders may not want the music streamed, but still want the video.
 
While Palo Alto is an exception, there a is a bunch of places around it where you can definitely buy a house with that much money in pocket. And it won't be a fixerupper. Heck, you can buy in SF if you're making this much. So if you can't afford it - you're doing it wrong.

I'd agree with that... if he/she is making 500k+ as they claim getting a decent individual family home in decent neighborhood in Bay is quite easy (Assuming they really make that much and aren't bragging)
 
While it's a nice gesture offering a free 6 months of music it's nothing original nor will it increase subscriptions. It's already been tried and tested by Sirius FM. Apple needs to re-think the platform and programming duties of Apple Music if they want to surpass competitors like Spotify where the coming public offering is of major concern to them. As for the halt of LP submission - I think the public jury will take it's time trying to understand the motive behind that move. I'm both eager and curious to read and hear opinions.
 
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Hoping removing ITLP's is part of an iTunes rewrite and they don't want to add all that functionality back to the replacement.

Probably not, but I can hope.
 
I don't listen to enough music to make an Apple Music subscription worthwhile. On the other hand, I have a couple of hundred purchased albums in iTunes. Closing down iTunes in favour of a "pay every month for access" model would do huge damage to Apple's credibility, not to mention spawning thousands of lawsuits. I don't see any way of taking what people have legitimately paid for off them and demanding a subscription to regain access that would result in anything but disaster.
 
Wow! Free Apple Music for six months if I cough up $30,000+ to an unreliable automaker! Where do I sign up?

How out of touch with reality is FIAT?

In there before me. Worst deal of the century! It's not even a full year! Tight-wads!

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Can we all just agree that the Apple campus looks like a place Sarah Michelle geller would show up at in the middle of the night, with a whole bunch of friends, and a whole bunch of vamp killing gear? #sunnyvale
 
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