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I’m not going to be sucked into one of your long, drawn out, multi-page post battles, where you continually re-define the issue and demand answers to a neverending series of additional questions.

For three posts, you created multiple strawman arguments out of your own points, but not addressing the ones that were asked of you prior about the Airpower. If you choose to keep replying, then why don’t you answer the questions from the past three posts? That’s part of discussion, is it not? You keep refuting me on your own tangents without actually addressing the questions, which makes it difficult for discussion in itself. That’s not asking a lot in the sense of being proactive regarding the AirPower. But no one is “demanding” anything, that’s again you insinuating something just for the sake of semantics, which was Not even related in the past to post that you interjected other remarks that were not accurate.

You said “there is no excuse why Apple shouldn’t at least provide an update about the Airpower or at minimum provide some more marketing geared towards it.” You’re wrong. We’re only six months into a fifteen month timeframe

Now you’re going to instill in argument about the timeframe being wrong? What does that have to do anything with the fact that I mentioned marketing as a whole is crucial to a products success before it launches. You’re conflating two different things and honestly, you’re going way off topic for something just to argue the word “Wrong.” Again, you seemingly don’t want to answer any questions prior, which I have no idea why you’re ignoring anything that was addressed previously.

There’s no reason for you to be demanding an update or more marketing.

Demanding? No one demanded anything, this is an opinionated website where others can interject their own thoughts on why Apple has not marketed/commented on the Airpower since it’s announcement in Fall 2017. You keep interjecting your own narrative into this argument, and no one has used the word “Demanding” other than You.

You want more info, I get it. But to claim there’s “no excuse” for not getting what you want is ridiculous.

Another Clear example you’re not reading the previous post at all. For a second time in a row with my past to post(s), I stated I was not upset the Airpower is not released, others have Expressed their disdain. I don’t necessarily want more information, I would like to see more marketing for a product just as I gave examples with the other Apple products that were launched months prior. I truly believe you’re not reading my previous post at all and you’re just going off on your own sub points. And its not what I want, it’s what others have clearly expressed in this thread and throughout this forum are frustrated. And rightfully so.

You also said “If it doesn’t launch during WWDC, then that will put at a fall release, which would be one year from its announcement

What exactly are you confused about here? For the fourth time: the AirPower was announced in fall 2017, if it doesn’t launch during WWDC 2018 , that only leaves one other time for the Airpower to launch during fall 2018, which puts that one year from when it was first announced. I’m not sure why you’re making this much more difficult than this needs to be by going off some random tangent about the timeframe when this whole discussion is about marketing and enticing the consumer about an upcoming Product. I truly believe for the sake of discussion, you’re just trying to create your own strawman arguments out of dates over the actual point of discussion.

If you’re going to choose reply again, please re-read the prior posts and answer the questions. It really does make it for much more useful discussion then you’re making it seemingly be

 

[PickUrPoison]

For three posts, you created multiple strawman arguments out of your own points, but not addressing the ones that were asked of you prior about the Airpower. If you choose to keep replying, then why don’t you answer the questions from the past three posts? That’s part of discussion, is it not? You keep refuting me on your own tangents without actually addressing the questions, which makes it difficult for discussion in itself. That’s not asking a lot in the sense of being proactive regarding the AirPower. But no one is “demanding” anything, that’s again you insinuating something just for the sake of semantics, which was Not even related in the past to post that you interjected other remarks that were not accurate.




Now you’re going to instill in argument about the timeframe being wrong? What does that have to do anything with the fact that I mentioned marketing as a whole is crucial to a products success before it launches. You’re conflating two different things and honestly, you’re going way off topic for something just to argue the word “Wrong.” Again, you seemingly don’t want to answer any questions prior, which I have no idea why you’re ignoring anything that was addressed previously.



Demanding? No one demanded anything, this is an opinionated website where others can interject their own thoughts on why Apple has not marketed/commented on the Airpower since it’s announcement in Fall 2017. You keep interjecting your own narrative into this argument, and no one has used the word “Demanding” other You.



Another Clear example you’re not reading the previous post at all. For a second time in a row with my past to post(s), I stated I was not upset the Airpower is not released, others have Expressed their disdain. I don’t necessarily want more information, I would like to see more marketing for product just as I gave examples with the other Apple products that were launched months prior. I truly believe you’re not reading my previous post at all and you’re just going off on your own sub points. And its not what I want, it’s what others have clearly expressed in this thread and throughout this forum are frustrated. And rightfully so.



What exactly are you confused about here? Are you Noreen for the fourth time: the AirPower was announced in fall 2017, if it doesn’t launch during WWDC 2018 , that only leaves one other time for the Airpower to launch during fall 2018, which puts that one year from when it was first announced. I’m not sure why you’re making this much more difficult than this needs to be by going off some random tangent about the timeframe when this whole discussion is about marketing and enticing the consumer about an upcoming Product. I truly believe for the sake of discussion, you’re just trying to create your own strawman arguments out of dates over the actual point of discussion.

If you’re going to choose reply again, please re-read the prior posts and answer the questions. It really does make it for much more useful discussion then you’re making it seemingly be

In the post I originally replied to, you made two statements. I quoted them in my last post, and explained why you were wrong. I’ll try again, but I don’t think it will help.

1) You’re wrong to say there’s no excuse for not getting an update or more marketing. Apple hasn’t chosen to release any new information, and they probably won’t before the product releases. You’re not entitled to a six month status report, no matter how bad you want it. There are still nine months before the promised delivery date, no reason to complain or be frustrated here in March.

2) You’re wrong to say that if Apple doesn’t deliver by September it’s unacceptable. Apple only promised to deliver by end of year. They did the same thing last year with iMac Pro, which in fact delivered in December. In a previous post you talk about speculating as to the reasons for an AirPower delay, but there’s been no delay.

I do think both the AirPower and AirPod wireless charging case will be released sometime between now and September, but I have no reason to think Apple will provide an update before then.

 

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In the post I originally replied to, you made two statements. I quoted them in my last post, and explained why you were wrong. I’ll try again, but I don’t think it will help

Whats Really strange is that in the prior post you stated you were not going to be drawn into a multipage battle, yet you don’t answer any questions, you go off on your own strawman arguments, you interject frivolous points have nothing to do with the topic at all, and yet you still reply with meaningless information. You’re arguing semantics without providing any relevant information other telling me that I’m “Wrong.”

It would help, if you would actually go back and answer the questions from the past four post that you continually keep ignoring for the sake of interjecting your own narrarive. It doesn’t work like that, given that I provided you ample opportunity to acknowledge it’s about marketing, not just multiple responses that you continually ignore.

1) You’re wrong to say there’s no excuse for not getting an update or more marketing. Apple hasn’t chosen to release any new information, and they probably won’t before the product releases. You’re not entitled to a six month status report, no matter how bad you want it.

First, reference the bolded:

I have reiterated three times that it makes no difference to me that they won’t make an announcement or update about AirPower, but for others it does. Please, I really do encourage you go back to read the other posts that I have clearly stated it makes no difference to me about that regarding the Airpower release, it’s just the marketing is abnormal. I have no other way of explaining that to you.



2.) Granted you ignored almost every question posed to you, if that’s your argument, then please for the third time explain why Apple marketed the Apple Watch six months prior to launch , why did Apple market the AirPods prior to launch, why did Apple market the HomePod prior to launch, etc. Is there any refutation why they’re not marketing the Airpower? I think it’s evident by now that you don’t understand Apples marketing scheme at all. Because if you did, then you wouldn’t continually keep ignoring how they market all their other products well in advance, which the AirPower they have not.

2) You’re wrong to say that if Apple doesn’t deliver by September it’s unacceptable..

False. Re-read Post 17 in this thread. I never use the word deliver at all. I said it’s unacceptable that it was announced one year in advance from fall 2017 and releasing in 2018 that far in advance without any marketing behind it at all.

This is what I stated in Post #17:

Relentless Power Stated:

“If it doesn’t launch during WWDC, then that will put at a fall release, which would be one year from its announcement, which is unacceptable.”

 

[PickUrPoison]

Whats Really strange is that in the prior post you stated you were not going to be drawn into a multipage battle, yet you don’t answer any questions, you go off on your own strawman arguments, you interject frivolous points have nothing to do with the topic at all, and yet you still reply with meaningless information. You’re arguing semantics without providing any relevant information other telling me that I’m “Wrong.”

It would help, if you would actually go back and answer the questions from the past four post that you continually keep ignoring for the sake of interjecting your own narrarive. It doesn’t work like that, given that I provided you ample opportunity to acknowledge it’s about marketing, not just multiple responses that you continually ignore.



First, reference the bolded:

I have reiterated three times that it makes no difference to me that they won’t make an announcement or update about AirPower, but for others it does. Please, I really do encourage you go back to read the other posts that I have clearly stated it makes no difference to me about that regarding the Airpower release, it’s just the marketing is abnormal. I have no other way of explaining that to you.



2.) Granted you ignored almost every question posed to you, if that’s your argument, then please for the third time explain why Apple marketed the Apple Watch six months prior to launch , why did Apple market the AirPods prior to launch, why did Apple market the HomePod prior to launch, etc. Is there any refutation why they’re not marketing the Airpower? I think it’s evident by now that you don’t understand Apples marketing scheme at all. Because if you did, then you wouldn’t continually keep ignoring how they market all their other products well in advance, which the AirPower they have not.



False. Re-read Post 17 in this thread. I never use the word deliver at all. I said it’s unacceptable that it was announced one year in advance from fall 2017 and releasing in 2018 that far in advance without any marketing behind it at all.

This is what I stated in Post #17:

Relentless Power Stated:

“If it doesn’t launch during WWDC, then that will put at a fall release, which would be one year from its announcement, which is unacceptable.”

It’s not multi-page yet, and at least we’re now back to discussing the actual issues: whether there’s “no excuse” for Apple’s silence on AirPower, and whether it would be unacceptable to release in September.

1) There’s nothing at all abnormal about Apple marketing being close-mouthed regarding upcoming products. Apple is famous for being tight-lipped on anything unreleased. Sometimes they pre-announce products, sometimes they don’t. How much information they release varies from product to product, for their own reasons.

2) If you’re reduced to arguing that my saying “deliver” in September is somehow different from your saying “launch” or “release”, it’s clear this discussion has run its course.

 

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1) There’s nothing at all abnormal about Apple marketing being close-mouthed regarding upcoming products. Apple is famous for being tight-lipped on anything unreleased. Sometimes they pre-announce products, sometimes they don’t. How much information they release varies from product to product, for their own reasons..

They were “Not closed” mouth about the Apple Watch before it’s launch, which had a Plethora of marketing for months before it’s launched in April 2015. They were not ‘closed mouthed’ about the AirPods or the HomePod or even many other products. Once there announced, Apple markets them through various media. That is the whole point of this discussion, is that they’re failing to market something that they pre-announced long ago and consumers are not aware of when this product is actually releasing or when it be available at all. I really have no the way explain this to you during this discussion, that marketing is crucial, it portrays the product to provide consumers an idea of what to expect, and they’re not doing that with the AirPower and it’s not a secret. It’s already been established it’s releasing, but with no other relevant information.

2) If you’re reduced to arguing that my saying “deliver” in September is somehow different from your saying “launch” or “release”, it’s clear this discussion has run its course.

This is a great way to end this discussion and I agree that it’s more than enough exhausted. But I will say this and End it here:

During this entire discussion through the past five posts, you interjected frivolous words like “Owed”, ‘demanding’, ‘wrong’, ‘deliver’, all words that you’re created a strawman argument out of that I called you out on that were incorrect, never said, and certainly not relevant to the actual topic.

If you want to discuss something that’s directly related to the points you disagree upon, then don’t interject things that are merely semantic based versus the actual topic at hand for discussion. You’re conflating two different things. Please understand, the whole point is discussion was reference Apples marketing aspect, which I clearly try to explain you, however you sidetracked the discussion multiple times.

 

[PickUrPoison]

They were “Not closed” mouth about the Apple Watch before it’s launch, which had a Plethora of marketing for months before it’s launched in April 2015. They were not ‘closed mouthed’ about the AirPods or the HomePod or even many other products. Once there announced, Apple markets them through various media. That is the whole point of this discussion, is that they’re failing to market something that they pre-announced long ago and consumers are not aware of when this product is actually releasing or when it be available at all. I really have no the way explain this to you during this discussion, that marketing is crucial, it portrays the product to provide consumers an idea of what to expect, and they’re not doing that with the AirPower and it’s not a secret. It’s already been established it’s releasing, but with no other relevant information.




This is a great way to end this discussion and I agree that it’s more than enough exhausted. But I will say this and End it here:

During this entire discussion through the past five posts, you interjected frivolous words like “Owed”, ‘demanding’, ‘wrong’, ‘deliver’, all words that you’re created a strawman argument out of that I called you out on that were incorrect, never said, and certainly not relevant to the actual topic.

If you want to discuss something that’s directly related to the points you disagree upon, then don’t interject things that are merely semantic based versus the actual topic at hand for discussion. You’re conflating two different things. Please understand, the whole point is discussion was reference Apples marketing aspect, which I clearly try to explain you, however you sidetracked the discussion multiple times.

Like I said, sometimes Apple pre-announces products, sometimes they don’t. If they do pre-announce, how much information they release or marketing they may do varies from product to product.

Those waiting for the Mac Pro—announced last April—have heard absolutely nothing this past year. I’m sure Apple has its reasons, but like many, I’d appreciate an update. I think it’s a pretty good bet we’ll hear something at WWDC, but at this point only Apple knows

At this point I think the only thing we might be able to agree on is that it would be perfectly acceptable for Apple to release AirPower in September. Earlier would be great, but anything after October would negatively affect sales in the Nov/Dec gift-giving season.

 

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