I'm with you. I switched over to ibank a few months ago. It's much better and a hell of a lot cheaper.
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QuickBooks for Mac 2012 Brings Lion Optimization, Over 50 New Features and Enhancements
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I'm with you. I switched over to ibank a few months ago. It's much better and a hell of a lot cheaper.
I love how the screenshots show data from 2007. That sounds about right -- Intuit's Mac offerings lag about four years behind reality when released.
Too little, too late. You're dead to me, Intuit.
Too little, too late. You're dead to me, Intuit.
So is Account Edge the only and/or most viable alternative? I use QB 2011 for my design company, and it stinks, but it gets the job done. When I actually saw this headline I got excited that maybe things would improve, but it sounds like they clearly will not based on everyones' experiences. Plus, shelling out that money for an "upgrade" kind of sucks.
Also, my accountant can receive my QB files when I convert them to Windows format. Is Account Edge a well adopted piece of software?
Thank ya!
Also, my accountant can receive my QB files when I convert them to Windows format. Is Account Edge a well adopted piece of software?
Thank ya!
Why bother? Intuit doesn't care about Mac. Barely anyone even buys Mac versions of their software. Until they start offering Premier for Mac, I won't take it seriously. I have to Parallels it up to use a decent program for my inventory, customer, and order management.
Besides AccountEdge, any other recommendations for software to manage an e-retailer?
Besides AccountEdge, any other recommendations for software to manage an e-retailer?
You understand this is for business, right? I deal with companies that have 100-200 employees. The enterprise software we use runs around $800-2000/month. The accounting portion is around 1/4 of that, I'd estimate.
They really need to implement an easy way to handle bounced checks. It's a major pain to do right now.
Someone I know uses FreshBooks. I'm still trying to figure out what is best. Right now I make my own invoices in Illustrator—as a designer, I'm picky about design—but I'm still in the very small—sole proprietor—stage. I still need to get an accountant and set up my company.
One thing I really like about QB is its "classes" feature, allowing one to distinguish transactions by location, product or whatever (single) factor one wants.
Perhaps I misunderstand how other accounting systems handle this same feature but, as far as I can tell, no one else offers this.
How do systems like AccountEdge handle distinguishing different channels, products, or whatever?
Perhaps I misunderstand how other accounting systems handle this same feature but, as far as I can tell, no one else offers this.
How do systems like AccountEdge handle distinguishing different channels, products, or whatever?
For my personal finance software, I'm still running Microsoft Money (Sunset Edition) - I don't need all the bells & whistles (read: online downloading from my accounts), and the Sunset edition was/is free (don't know if it's still available), since Microsoft discontinued their Money program. I have far too many years of financial data stored in Money to make the switch (not to mention, they don't make it easy to export your info into other formats).
It's the only thing I run a Windows VM for.
It's the only thing I run a Windows VM for.
Still no way to migrate the PC files over to the Mac files?
I still use VMware for no other reason than for QB to run my business. It's moronic!
I still use VMware for no other reason than for QB to run my business. It's moronic!
What Alternatives??
I agree with this. What particularly pissed me off one year is when I was late to see my accountant, couldn't find where the network version of my file was stored, and they wouldn't simply tell me what directory it was stored in - because my support agreement had expired 3 days before.
I have since recommended Moneyworks, but now hear that Cognito has sold out or closed it doors (can't remember which). And the fact that it was a true GL system sort of freaked a lot of people out.
What other viable alternatives are there for Quickbooks - or even Accountedge?
I'm getting sick of Intuit serving up second-class software and treating Mac people like second-class citizens. I swear to God, even though the Microsoft-Intuit merger never officially went through, it wouldn't surprise me if it went through behind closed doors.
Why else in the world would a company ignore the paradigm shift that has taken place and not give Mac users the exact same - or better - version of the software?
Even Scott Cook said (about Quicken) that they were a 20th Century solution trying to do business in a 21st Century world (he may as well have said that about the entire frickin' company): http://www.mint.com/blog/updates/intuit-not-out-to-change-mint-says-founder/
But this is stupid. You're right. Why not hire more than two developers to make a kick-ass product?
Please give me some other options. Right now I'm simply using Kashoo.
I agree with this. What particularly pissed me off one year is when I was late to see my accountant, couldn't find where the network version of my file was stored, and they wouldn't simply tell me what directory it was stored in - because my support agreement had expired 3 days before.
I have since recommended Moneyworks, but now hear that Cognito has sold out or closed it doors (can't remember which). And the fact that it was a true GL system sort of freaked a lot of people out.
What other viable alternatives are there for Quickbooks - or even Accountedge?
I'm getting sick of Intuit serving up second-class software and treating Mac people like second-class citizens. I swear to God, even though the Microsoft-Intuit merger never officially went through, it wouldn't surprise me if it went through behind closed doors.
Why else in the world would a company ignore the paradigm shift that has taken place and not give Mac users the exact same - or better - version of the software?
Even Scott Cook said (about Quicken) that they were a 20th Century solution trying to do business in a 21st Century world (he may as well have said that about the entire frickin' company): http://www.mint.com/blog/updates/intuit-not-out-to-change-mint-says-founder/
But this is stupid. You're right. Why not hire more than two developers to make a kick-ass product?
Please give me some other options. Right now I'm simply using Kashoo.
I've also had it with Intuit.
I use Quicken for Mac right now but it is preventing me from upgrading to Lion.
So the future is for me to have a dedicated pre Lion computer. Get Quicken for Windows or get away from Intuit completely.
The last option is clearly the most desirable.
Some have mentioned iBank4...how is it?
And I see it can import Quicken data....anyone tried to do it?
I use Quicken for Mac right now but it is preventing me from upgrading to Lion.
So the future is for me to have a dedicated pre Lion computer. Get Quicken for Windows or get away from Intuit completely.
The last option is clearly the most desirable.
Some have mentioned iBank4...how is it?
And I see it can import Quicken data....anyone tried to do it?
iBank 4 has some problems, but it's the closest we have to Quicken right now. Here's a good summary of it:
Quicken for Lion: Why Does Intuit Hate Mac Users?
Intuit = Worst company ever?
Downsides:
- Years of begging them for real, genuine, modern Mac support fell on deaf ears (until *maybe* now?). They could have owned that market but ignored Macs way, way too long.
- Mac versions have never, ever been seamlessly able to be shared with the accountant's real version. If you send your files to an accountant who uses the fancy Windows edition, they may complain and you might have to export or save a version for them. The file structure is not shared.
- Converting files from Mac to Windows and vice versa is a pain if you have any long text fields. It fails until you shorten things.
- Pushiest sales people ever will call you and call you (yes, from India).
- Tech support people are pretty clueless and have given us incorrect or incomplete answers.
- Pre-sales questions about the Mac version has led us to return two previous Mac versions when we found they didn't do what were told they did.
Upside:
- Slightly compatible with something a lot of Windows users use.
Hey, Intuit! Make this 100% native to use the same files on Mac and Windows, offer Macs every last detailed feature you offer in Windows, stop phoning people to sell them anything EVER and fire anyone who pushes a product on a customer instead of rewarding them, have tech support based in the U.S. for U.S phone calls, and offer that initial, "we're sorry we ignored you" perfect Mac version for something close to free for anyone who owns another version of QB.
Downsides:
- Years of begging them for real, genuine, modern Mac support fell on deaf ears (until *maybe* now?). They could have owned that market but ignored Macs way, way too long.
- Mac versions have never, ever been seamlessly able to be shared with the accountant's real version. If you send your files to an accountant who uses the fancy Windows edition, they may complain and you might have to export or save a version for them. The file structure is not shared.
- Converting files from Mac to Windows and vice versa is a pain if you have any long text fields. It fails until you shorten things.
- Pushiest sales people ever will call you and call you (yes, from India).
- Tech support people are pretty clueless and have given us incorrect or incomplete answers.
- Pre-sales questions about the Mac version has led us to return two previous Mac versions when we found they didn't do what were told they did.
Upside:
- Slightly compatible with something a lot of Windows users use.
Hey, Intuit! Make this 100% native to use the same files on Mac and Windows, offer Macs every last detailed feature you offer in Windows, stop phoning people to sell them anything EVER and fire anyone who pushes a product on a customer instead of rewarding them, have tech support based in the U.S. for U.S phone calls, and offer that initial, "we're sorry we ignored you" perfect Mac version for something close to free for anyone who owns another version of QB.
SaSS cloud accounting software is the future.
I have no idea how or why QuickBooks is still around. Who in there right mind would pay that much for a single user licence for a piece of software which has a substandard set of accounting features?
Software as a service (SaSS) cloud based accounting software like Clear Books is the way forward. They only charge £5-15 per month (depending on what plan you choose), with no contracts and no tie ins. Plus since it is web based, you get the added benefit of being able to access it anywhere with an internet connection, and no addtional fees for "upgrades".
Oh yeah, and for you QuickBook users, they have a nice automated import tool to make the process of switching painless.
I have no idea how or why QuickBooks is still around. Who in there right mind would pay that much for a single user licence for a piece of software which has a substandard set of accounting features?
Software as a service (SaSS) cloud based accounting software like Clear Books is the way forward. They only charge £5-15 per month (depending on what plan you choose), with no contracts and no tie ins. Plus since it is web based, you get the added benefit of being able to access it anywhere with an internet connection, and no addtional fees for "upgrades".
Oh yeah, and for you QuickBook users, they have a nice automated import tool to make the process of switching painless.
App Store
I agree with all the criticisms of QB and Intuit- I'm aways amazed that Apple will take on Adobe when their programs are inferior/troublesome (Flash) but they never seem to lash out at Intuit and make a public stand on their disgust of the product line.
I'm jumping ship to AccountEdge next fiscal year. I understand they have iPad support now as well.
One question: if QB is available through the App store, how will Intuit limit the number of users? Isn't an App Store purchase good on all machines registered to the buyer?
I agree with all the criticisms of QB and Intuit- I'm aways amazed that Apple will take on Adobe when their programs are inferior/troublesome (Flash) but they never seem to lash out at Intuit and make a public stand on their disgust of the product line.
I'm jumping ship to AccountEdge next fiscal year. I understand they have iPad support now as well.
One question: if QB is available through the App store, how will Intuit limit the number of users? Isn't an App Store purchase good on all machines registered to the buyer?