Quicken 2007 May Run on OS X Lion, Even With Rosetta Dead

[jdeitch]

Quicken Vs. Others

I've tried running a PC version of Quicken (2009) using both VMWare Fusion and CrossOver. It works a little better using Fusion, but you need a copy of Windows so it costs more. The main issues I've found with CrossOver relate to the help messages (I get lots of error messages). The speed between Fusion and CrossOver seems to be comparable and adequate.

Moneydance works well too, but isn't as mature (with respect to features, reporting, etc.) as the PC versions of Quicken. It does cost less than either Q-2009 + Fusion + Windows or Quicken + CrossOver. Running natively on the Mac is also a definite plus.

SEE Finance is fairly new and doesn't do some basic things yet (like check printing). I'm also not too crazy about their portfolio view (as far as I can tell, you can look at stocks, bonds or mutual funds, but not one combined portfolio). On the plus side, the QIF import was amazing. It imported my whole file from Quicken for Mac with just a few minor transactions to clean up.

I have Quicken data going back to the late '80s and the export/import into the PC version of Quicken was challenging. I tried one big export and import and the results were terrible. I ended up exporting and importing each account separately using individual QIF files. That worked pretty well if I imported the earliest (based on last transaction date in the account) first. After each import I cleaned up all the accounts before importing the next one. It took two to three weeks of pretty much constant work to do it. I'm still exploring Quicken 2009, but it seems more stable and definitely has more features than the 2006 Mac version I have.

 

[zorinlynx]

Why is it so hard for Intuit to just recompile their code for Intel?

Pretty much every other company in the world had Intel versions of their software within the first year of the Intel Macs; even Adobe, foot draggers that they are, got an Intel version of CS out within a year!

There's really not much of an excuse for this. I don't use Quicken but I feel for people who do and won't be able to run it on Lion.

 

[KurtangleTN]

So if Apple can build in Rosetta to a single application why not just leave it system wide?

Seems like it's creating issues for absolutely no real benefit.

 

[hollow000]

Soo...I have 10 years of quicken data. Assuming Quicken 07 won't work on Lion, is there any mac program that will read my quicken data?

Please oh please, don't tell me I have to run Windows on my mac.

Try this one: http://www.scimonocesoftware.com/seefinance/index.html

I read that it can import Quicken files

 

[blue22]

beware of Mint.com's privacy issues...

If they're not willing to update their app (with all features) for Rosetta-free Lion then they definitely don't deserve their users' money.

Unfortunately, Intuit has failed Mac users. I was an long time Quicken user up until I made the switch to a Mac about 3 years ago. Quicken on a Mac is a farce.

Ten years and they never updated their legacy code. Stop using this program already!!! It's time to move on.

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For such a large software company to not have all of its products in Cocoa and on iOS and MacOS is a major embarrassment. Intuit's PC software is crappy too. They have a very marginal database server craplet attempt at a networked multiple user accounting app.

No one with any sense of quality should buy their products.

Just FYI, for those that have heard of Mint.com, and are considering it as potential alternative to Quicken, I urge caution with using this online service. They offer a free online based personal budget tool with slick looking GUI and video tutorials, and it easily links to your bank records, updates your registers intelligently, and overall around sounds great, especially the free part. However, they have some questionable third party sharing fine print and general privacy concerns that personally scares me away from ever using this, no matter how good it looks, so do your homework on them before you sign-up for their free account.

And the best/interesting part is? Intuit owes them.

 

[edwardd20]

Intuit Hiring Mac Engineer - San Diego

Old news, but...

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mac-dev-jobs/message/203

 

[sethwalt]

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I got tired of quicken's lack of support a few years back, tried some other programs, and settled on Fortora Fresh Finance. It did the best job of importing 20 years of data and had the features I wanted. Sorry I don't have a link handy (I'm on my phone). But t may be worth checking out, too.

 

[*LTD*]

Seems the folks at Inuit are just incredibly lazy. They have had years to develop a Universal version.

 

[davidg4781]

I've been using Quicken Essentials since it's come out and so far, I'm happy with it. Yeah, it doesn't have all the extra features some of y'all need, and I can understand your frustration with that, but for someone simple like me, it gets the job done.

Since it's come out, they have added more features to it. They're also pretty quick with updating any bugs. I think since it's been out, I've had to download about maybe 10 different updates.

Maybe later they might add some of those features, but for now, I'm a satisfied customer.

I did use Quicken 2006 for a few years and to me, it was clunkier and older feeling.

 

[ThisIsNotMe]

For the love of god, just make Rosetta an optional download like it is now and all our lives easier.

So companies like Inuit have no incentive to write native software?

We have seen what that does to an OS and it isn't pretty.

 

[redsteven]

Years ago a copy of Quicken came with a mac that I bought (I think it might have been my old iBook G4).

Hated it and put off tracking finances for a long time (I was in high school, so putting it off was doable).

Now I use MoneyWell http://nothirst.com/moneywell/

 

[violaboy]

2007?

Jeez, doesn't "2007" say enough?

Intuit needs to use some common sense and update their damn software.

 

[SoGood]

Vaporware!!! Beware!

Looking at a move to iBank.

 

[subsonix]

Wouldn't it be easier to just leave Rosetta in Lion? Apparently there are applications and developers that don't think six years was enough to prepare for the transition.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

Mr. Patzer explained that the PowerPC codebase for Quicken For Mac 2007 was started decades ago and has many intricacies -- including its own custom-built database engine -- that are very much PowerPC specific. Simply porting this code over to Intel is not possible and would require a significant amount of work.

Do these guys ever tire of that same old panned press statement that is not remotely factual? I guess not.

This is not an Operating System getting ported. It's a single application.

Sorry, but anyone relying on Quicken in this day and age needs to rethink their approach to managing their own assets.

 

[*LTD*]

I have an idea for all those long-suffering Quicken users.

Instead of hanging on to outdated, poorly-coded software made by a lazy company that doesn't give a damn, and that will eventually be too old to run (like now), why not migrate to something else? That would kinda make more sense.

 

[DTphonehome]

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God, if it's SO important to run Quicken, just do it in a virtual machine running Windows. You'll always be supported by Intuit then.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

Having dealt with Intuit for years, it would be madness for them to do this instead of building a new app from scratch.
One thing software companies hate the most is having to provide technical support. That's why some commercial software doesn't evolve as fast as others.
To embed libraries to make it work without Rosetta would add more potential points of failure to the app, increasing the number of support calls.
Of course, Intuit charges for support after the trial period expires, but even I was able to get free support when I proved to them that the problems I was experimenting were caused by their software, not by user error.

 

[AriX]

I knew something smelled fishy-- they claim that Quicken 2007 is based on decades of development for the PowerPC platform, but Quicken '98 didn't even run on PowerPC:

http://web.intuit.com/support/quicken/docs/m_98req.html

They didn't ship a PowerPC based version of Quicken until 2000. How did seven years become "decades", plural?

That's a good point. Although, keep in mind that after Apple moved to PowerPC, they maintained a 680x0 translation/emulation environment much like Rosetta that allowed 680x0-compiled apps like Quicken to run on PPC Macs. They also had Universal apps, though at the time they were only called "fat binaries."

Now, I understand that rewriting code specifically written for one processor to run on another is not trivial, but this just seems like laziness. Do the people at Intuit not know how to write databases for Intel/x86? Oh wait, they've been doing THAT for decades.

 

[lilo777]

Seems the folks at Inuit are just incredibly lazy. They have had years to develop a Universal version.

Apple discontinuing support for Rosetta - business decision. Intuit not willing to invest into development of applications for a niche market (OS/X) - lazy. Double standard or something? If anything, Apple should have much more commitment to support their OS/X customers than Intuit. After all, Intuit does offer you perfectly functional version of their software - on Windows. Enjoy.

 

[artpease]

iBank

iBank hasn't mastered the concept of addition and subtraction, or a useable interface. Caveat emptor.

 

[MacVault]

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I gave up on Quicken LONG ago. It's like why do they even bother trying to develop for Mac when they can never get it right. Feature disparity. Very poor UI, etc.

 

[southernpaws]

For the love of god, just make Rosetta an optional download like it is now and all our lives easier.

Yeah. Also build in some backwards compatibility for wordperfect.

Intuit needs to make a full featured product that's less than 4 years old

 

[southernpaws]

Apple discontinuing support for Rosetta - business decision. Intuit not willing to invest into development of applications for a niche market (OS/X) - lazy. Double standard or something? If anything, Apple should have much more commitment to support their OS/X customers than Intuit. After all, Intuit does offer you perfectly functional version of their software - on Windows. Enjoy.

Exactly how many more millions of users do there need to be to make it worthwhile for them?

Even Microsoft keeps office for Mac updated more often.

 

[likegadgets]

I run Parallels with Windows 7 just so I can run Quicken 2011. Works fine, but there is the added expense of Windows, Parallels, memory, etc.

It looks like Intuit is simply incapable of porting the product to Mac. With the growing market share, the number of people switching to Mac, a new generation of graduates that are Mac Centric, and the popularity of iOS - I would think Intuit would pay attention.

The only app I use that needs Rosetta is the Mac client for PC Anywhere I still must access PCs remotely using PC Anywhere. I will Probably need to start using remote desktop. But many PCs will need to be reconfigured,,,,