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Quicken Financial Life for Mac Delayed to 2010
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I'm going to second this thought. Everything I have been reading (from Intuit now less) seems to indicate that Quicken Financial Life was just terrible. Why wait three years for a product that doesn't do what the current one does? Maybe waiting four years will get us a reasonable upgrade? Snow Leopard comes out in September. I suspect February is a reasonable wait time for Intuit before it starts really impacting them on the income side of the equation. I agree with the other postings though - why pre-order? They can't actually charge your credit card until they ship, but do you really want to be the first guy to trust your financial data to this product? I suspect I will upgrade to it in the April timeframe after the first reviews/experiences are in.
Thanks for this tip. Our household bills and budget has been out of whack since my daughter was born 5 years ago. Since then, it's always been easier not to hassle with Quicken. We've tried the envelope thing with monopoly money a few times, and while it seems to be a good way to get "back on track", it's also time consuming. The wife and I tried Moneywell last night, and I think we're hooked.
Screw you, Intuit. I don't need to settle for you any more.
Thanks, I'm going to give Moneywell a try after battling with iBank for some time (the latest version introduced a new batch of bugs and they keep changing how it works without documenting it).
I gave up with Intuit years ago on Windows after they started removing features from the low-end version and forcing an upgrade to the Pro version. Looks like they haven't improved.
MoneyWell and Others
I use MoneyWell, but there are more alternatives.
With MoneyWell, in a glance, you can see if you're expending too much on delivery food or if you can afford that 2TB external drive this month.
So... Quicken? What's that? Something like MoneyWell?
I use MoneyWell, but there are more alternatives.
With MoneyWell, in a glance, you can see if you're expending too much on delivery food or if you can afford that 2TB external drive this month.
So... Quicken? What's that? Something like MoneyWell?
Welcome to one of the world's worst run companies. The products that actually do get released (on time), are riddled with bugs. 6-9 months later, after numerous patches, it finally functions as promised. In my experience, the rule of thumb with Quicken: never buy a product that was released in the same year.
Chances are, they only had one guy developing the Mac candidate. He must have resigned, hence the delay.
Chances are, they only had one guy developing the Mac candidate. He must have resigned, hence the delay.
jGnash
Most financial tasks I do on my computer are as simple as balancing my checkbook (or other accounts), so I think Quicken would be overkill.
For this simple task (although I make it a bit more complicated by having it be a double-entry system), I use jGnash 2. It's open-souce and cross-platform. The only bad thing is that it's Java and a Swing app, and the GUI on the Mac is a bit odd--but it's decent. Plus, I can take my data cross-platform.
There are snazzier, nicer Mac-only apps that look great and are probably a bit easier to use, but I haven't found any free ones. jGnash works nicely for me. (Actually, I had to either use an older version, recompile it myself with NetBeans, or edit a .plist [I think] file in the app bundle since it seemed to be looking for a different JRE version than I had, but once I got past that, it worked great.)
Most financial tasks I do on my computer are as simple as balancing my checkbook (or other accounts), so I think Quicken would be overkill.
For this simple task (although I make it a bit more complicated by having it be a double-entry system), I use jGnash 2. It's open-souce and cross-platform. The only bad thing is that it's Java and a Swing app, and the GUI on the Mac is a bit odd--but it's decent. Plus, I can take my data cross-platform.
There are snazzier, nicer Mac-only apps that look great and are probably a bit easier to use, but I haven't found any free ones. jGnash works nicely for me. (Actually, I had to either use an older version, recompile it myself with NetBeans, or edit a .plist [I think] file in the app bundle since it seemed to be looking for a different JRE version than I had, but once I got past that, it worked great.)
Agreed. I've been running Quicken 2009 in a VM for too long.
It's not just being free that makes Mint better. I'm shocked at how easily Mint can grab data from any other service.
Quicken has very spotty support for online banking and even when they do support an on-line service, the banks sometimes will charge you for it! Mint manages to do this without any extra charges. Plus, Mint is updating your accounts and aggregating them throughout the day, whereas Quicken only catches up when you actually open up the application.
Not to mention that Mint is easier to figure out and has a nicer interface, plus has a companion app on the iPhone and sends you e-mails!!!
I don't see how Intuit can even compare anymore. Unless Apple or Google creates a personal finance app, I don't see anybody outperforming Mint in the near future.
Thanks for the heads-up on Mint. Just signed up. I was slightly turned off by the occasional financial advertisement, but realized Quicken did the same thing in their $oftware.
I was happy to get into the 'expanded' beta, but dismayed at how featureless the program was. A year and a half after it had been first demonstrated, it appeared that they had made approximately zero progress, with a bare-bones user interface and precious little else. Seven months further on and there's still virtually zero apparent progress.
They don't seem to be devoting any resources to it... as in zero, zip. They must have a Mac programmer on staff, who is... busy with other projects? Deep into his fantasy football league? I don't know. But it didn't seem like it would come out in 2009 even in its current incarnation at its glacial pace of development.
They don't seem to be devoting any resources to it... as in zero, zip. They must have a Mac programmer on staff, who is... busy with other projects? Deep into his fantasy football league? I don't know. But it didn't seem like it would come out in 2009 even in its current incarnation at its glacial pace of development.
You suck eggs Intuit
God you SUCK Intuit! I've been patiently using your 07 Mac product and waiting for the updated Mac version. The 07 version sucks balls.
As a switcher in early 08, the most painful part was leaving Quicken Windows and using that sad POS excuse you're pushing on Mac users.
At this point, I'm going to look at other options - ANYTHING other than an Intuit product.
Morons
God you SUCK Intuit! I've been patiently using your 07 Mac product and waiting for the updated Mac version. The 07 version sucks balls.
As a switcher in early 08, the most painful part was leaving Quicken Windows and using that sad POS excuse you're pushing on Mac users.
At this point, I'm going to look at other options - ANYTHING other than an Intuit product.
Morons
I need help!
I've been going a little nuts trying to get my finances in order. I'm on Mint which I like but it doesn't allow cash accounts or communicate with euros or french banks.
I have 3 different programs for the mac: quicken, quickbooks and excel. WHY??? And when I didn't realize I had those I used google apps to make my own. Kind of fun. I made a form to input all my receipts so I could track my expenses and be mindful of my budget.
One problem I have with quicken is that I get lost in the past and I can't see a clear budget plan. Am I missing something huge? It feels very complicated and not reconciled. When I look at it there are years of history and missing data. I want to fix it rather than address my concerns in the present. Can you suggest how to use the software I already have in a stream lined way or suggest a very simple easy to use free or low cost software?
Thanks.
I've been going a little nuts trying to get my finances in order. I'm on Mint which I like but it doesn't allow cash accounts or communicate with euros or french banks.
I have 3 different programs for the mac: quicken, quickbooks and excel. WHY???
And when I didn't realize I had those I used google apps to make my own. Kind of fun. I made a form to input all my receipts so I could track my expenses and be mindful of my budget. One problem I have with quicken is that I get lost in the past and I can't see a clear budget plan. Am I missing something huge? It feels very complicated and not reconciled. When I look at it there are years of history and missing data. I want to fix it rather than address my concerns in the present. Can you suggest how to use the software I already have in a stream lined way or suggest a very simple easy to use free or low cost software?
Thanks.
Intuit to Acquire Mint.com
I was reading this thread and decided to check out Mint. Here is their latest press release (ironic):
http://www.mint.com/press/intuit-to-acquire-mint-com/
I was reading this thread and decided to check out Mint. Here is their latest press release (ironic):
http://www.mint.com/press/intuit-to-acquire-mint-com/
You know Intuit has given up when instead of developing their product for release they just buy another competitor.
Thanks for the warning, I deleted my mint.com account on the news. I refuse to channel another dime towards Intuit, however indirectly.
Intuit, is not for Apple customers
I switched from PC to Mac many years ago and up to then was a devoted Intuit user. After switching to Mac. I have not been able to find a way to use Quicken for Mac. It is just plain bad and as the Windows version improved over the years, the Mac version has not. As bad as the program is, the support is even worse. Intuit is easily the worst run corporation ever.
Intuit does not want my business and I don't want to do business with them. If you are a Mac user, be Leary of Intuit, they do not have your best interest as a priority.
I switched from PC to Mac many years ago and up to then was a devoted Intuit user. After switching to Mac. I have not been able to find a way to use Quicken for Mac. It is just plain bad and as the Windows version improved over the years, the Mac version has not. As bad as the program is, the support is even worse. Intuit is easily the worst run corporation ever.
Intuit does not want my business and I don't want to do business with them. If you are a Mac user, be Leary of Intuit, they do not have your best interest as a priority.
After 4 years with ms money and some "engineering" with a number of options for mac, I gave up and let my wife do the job with plain xls files....
I know it sounds quite naive, but believe me, it really does the basics needed!
Mint terms of service
Am I the only one hesitant about giving Mint (or anyone else) all of my banking and investment account names and passwords? I have more faith in the ability of hackers than I do in security systems.
I use Quicken 2005 on a Windows desktop, both of which I want to retire, and have simple wants for my Mac financial program. I do not need to download daily stock quotes, and for security's sake I visit my bank and other financial sites periodically (if one gets hacked, at least the exposure is limited). I do want sorting, categories, charts, etc.
Anything you recommend for this simple need? Maybe I should sign up for Mint and just not enter any account info, assuming I can manually enter data.
Am I the only one hesitant about giving Mint (or anyone else) all of my banking and investment account names and passwords? I have more faith in the ability of hackers than I do in security systems.
I use Quicken 2005 on a Windows desktop, both of which I want to retire, and have simple wants for my Mac financial program. I do not need to download daily stock quotes, and for security's sake I visit my bank and other financial sites periodically (if one gets hacked, at least the exposure is limited). I do want sorting, categories, charts, etc.
Anything you recommend for this simple need? Maybe I should sign up for Mint and just not enter any account info, assuming I can manually enter data.
You can't manually enter transactions in Mint. Mint collects all your finacial accounts information from different sources/websites (checking, saving, credit cards, 401K and others) and put them into one central place. It then downloads those transactions. It will learn your common payers and also use that information for budgeting and auto subcategorizing transactions. It also recommends companies (credit cards for example) that could save you money.
If you need a "Quicken" type program for the Mac. Some well known ones are iBank, MoneyDance and MoneyWell.
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/business_finance/index1.html lists others you can check out.
Ha! I felt the same way, until I read this:
http://www.mint.com/blog/updates/why-mint-com-plus-intuit-is-a-big-idea/
I am sure Intuit will eventually ruin Mint.