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Its not a useless app.

Its just not something I think deserves to be part of a whole conference, but its got a WOW COOL factor to it, that the iSheep (iPod apple "halo" users) will just eat up. But in reality, this is nothing revolutionary or extraordinary and isnt real worth the time he spent on it IMO. <---- see it says IMO get over it
 
groovebuster said:
Are you serious???? :eek:
(snip)
Do you really think kids will sit in front the iMac the whole day and take pictures of themselves day after day???

And FrontRow is also no big deal. Maybe interesting for teenagers, but not for the average adult computer user. Who would watch a video/DVD in the living-room on the computer screen? Exactly... nobody! Who would watch one in his (Home-)Office? I guess the same answer... nobody! Same applies to photo albums. And even using iTunes with FrontRow... actually only makes sense when the iMac is connected to a stereo. But then again I never understood why it is so bad to actually go to the computer and to select the wanted playlist there. It is not that I am changing the playlist every 2 minutes...
groovebuster

You don't have kids do you, and have you been in a university dorm lately?

My niece's iPhoto library is stuffed to the gills with close-up mug shots of themselves and their friends, if they had this I'd have to get them a 1TB drive for Christmas.

I just dropped off my nephew at his university last month and it seems that very few people have TVs or stereos, but they all have computers, and that's were they watch DVDs and listen to music.
 
Bob Knob said:
You don't have kids do you, and have you been in a university dorm lately?

My niece's iPhoto library is stuffed to the gills with close-up mug shots of themselves and their friends, if they had this I'd have to get them a 1TB drive for Christmas.

I just dropped off my nephew at his university last month and it seems that very few people have TVs or stereos, but they all have computers, and that's were they watch DVDs and listen to music.

"Yo concur" is Spanish for "I concur".

When I am at uni I hardly ever watch anything outside of a computer screen. I have a tele tuner in my pc and watch tele that way, and watch DVDs on my 20" panel by way of PB or pc. It is far to much work to lug up an actual television set when I have two in front of me.
 
groovebuster said:
Are you serious???? :eek:

Photobooth is maybe fun for 2 or 3 times and then will just collect dust on the harddrive. Jobs just has a way to make even the most unimportant and up the pole things look as if they were THE features mankind was waiting for...

Do you really think kids will sit in front the iMac the whole day and take pictures of themselves day after day???

I agree 100% on that. that program is funny for everytime you got few friends over and even then it gets old. mostly if your a guyover age 14? lol not so cute there.

groovebuster said:
And FrontRow is also no big deal. Maybe interesting for teenagers, but not for the average adult computer user. Who would watch a video/DVD in the living-room on the computer screen? Exactly... nobody! Who would watch one in his (Home-)Office? I guess the same answer... nobody! Same applies to photo albums. And even using iTunes with FrontRow... actually only makes sense when the iMac is connected to a stereo. But then again I never understood why it is so bad to actually go to the computer and to select the wanted playlist there. It is not that I am changing the playlist every 2 minutes...

I dunno about that. imagine running an out from your comp, plugging it to your tv or projector. look @ the possibilities there.

If you have quictime 7 pro and you do the update, do you have to get pro again or just for older versions?
 
illegalprelude said:
I agree 100% on that. that program is funny for everytime you got few friends over and even then it gets old. mostly if your a guyover age 14? lol not so cute there.



I dunno about that. imagine running an out from your comp, plugging it to your tv or projector. look @ the possibilities there.

If you have quictime 7 pro and you do the update, do you have to get pro again or just for older versions?

If you have 7 Pro then you can update without hitch. The registration for Pro only comes around after every major release as far as I know. I just did it though with 7 Pro, you'll be fine.
 
efoto said:
"Yo concur" is Spanish for "I concur".

When I am at uni I hardly ever watch anything outside of a computer screen. I have a tele tuner in my pc and watch tele that way, and watch DVDs on my 20" panel by way of PB or pc. It is far to much work to lug up an actual television set when I have two in front of me.

You know that "I concur" in Spanish is "concurro" right?

BTW, to those of you who think h.264 is crap: it's not! It's an outstanding codec and I'm very glad they used h.264 for the videos. I think Apple did a pretty good job balancing quality and size and h.264 fit the bill really well.
-Chase
 
rendezvouscp said:
You know that "I concur" in Spanish is "concurro" right?

BTW, to those of you who think h.264 is crap: it's not! It's an outstanding codec and I'm very glad they used h.264 for the videos. I think Apple did a pretty good job balancing quality and size and h.264 fit the bill really well.
-Chase

If I would have thought about it I would have realized I could have said concurro, but I took Spanish over 5 years ago and never practiced/used it so it is basically gone now.

I think Apple made a good move with h.264 too. I really like the implications of it and the way they are using it currently, hopefully more exciting things in the pipes coming our way.
 
aegisdesign said:
Hmmm. 7.03 has broken audio playback in mpeg1 movies for me. It works in mpeg4 movies and other codecs. Movies also stop after about 10 seconds.

And you can't go back to 7.02 as the installer for that won't let me install an older version.

I now have to use VLC for video playback.

Edit: Solved it again by going into Utilities/Audio MIDI Setup and in 'Audio Devices' setting the output to 44.1Khz. I've done this fix before on the last update but I'd forgot I had to last time. You'd hope they'd have fixed it.

This is on 10.4.2 on an iMac G5 1.8Ghz (one of the first ones).

THANK YOU! I had the same issue, and almost thought I was out of luck. I couldn't even get audio for the new keynote! But your fix works perfectly.
 
rendezvouscp said:
You know that "I concur" in Spanish is "concurro" right?

BTW, to those of you who think h.264 is crap: it's not! It's an outstanding codec and I'm very glad they used h.264 for the videos. I think Apple did a pretty good job balancing quality and size and h.264 fit the bill really well.
-Chase

I agree that h.264 is awesome, but I think you're confused about what exactly makes h.264 great.

H.264 is a compression technology, much like DivX. Straight DV video (a decent example, since its common for consumers) takes up about 12gb per hour of video. This can be lessened with minimal quality loss to a high quality MPEG-2, as used in a DVD.

Now, this is fine and dandy. A 2 hour movie might take up the better part of a 9.4 gb dual layer DVD, and the quality is pretty good.

Now, if people wanted, they could lower the quality, and therefore lower the size of the file. Even with the filesize cut in half, a DVD would probably still look good. But not that good.

Enter high-efficiancy compression, notably DivX and XviD. They allow you to get that ~7gb movie down to 700-1300mb, with little or no perceivable quality loss. This is done through more efficient compression. The loss with more efficient compression is that a faster, more powerful computer is needed to decode them.

When DivX was first becoming popular, you needed a fairly high end machine to decode it. Now, just about any computer sold can.

Now we have H.264 starting to become popular. Its more efficient, but also requires a more powerful machine. Thats why even my Rev. D 12" Powerbook chokes on 720p H.264, where it might be able to handle the same quality in DivX. Since H.264 produces a smaller, more efficient file, it is harder to decode.

I hope that made sense... Its late, and I'm sleep deprived. The point is that Apple did more than find a magic number which balanced size versus quality; they used a new codec to make a smaller file with the same (or better) quality.
 
screensaver400: while not an expert, I'm all too familiar with h.264 and what makes it so great. I thought it was great, however, that they had been able to balance the file size and quality enough so that consumers (like myself) would be happy with what they could make and get. I've spent hours trying to find the magic number for 320 x 240 movies with great quality and came to the conclusion that ~700 kbit/s would stream fairly well across various broadband lines and provide the quality expected in h.264. It was exciting to me that Apple had not only found this, but made it a default in QT7 Pro so that I could choose exactly what I wanted from a default menu.

That's what was so exciting.
-Chase
 
I have downloaded it on my Mac's no problems. Keep up the good work Apple.
 
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