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As I've said already here, I'm not talking about people with phones obviously damaged out of the box. I'm sure now given the average American's 10 second attention span that 20 more people will ignore that I just said that for a second time and come in here posting about how nobody should expect a damaged product out of the box, which has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm referring to in the OP. This is the second time I've covered that I'm in agreement with the idea that products should not arrive obviously damaged, so anyone that posts that below this is just incompetent and illiterate.

I'm talking about the people who need a microscope to see a tiny manufacturing blemish, or the people who abuse the phone and then complain that it scratches and scuffs; like the guy I read about earlier today who dropped his phone on a stone, damaged it, then went and brought it back to Apple demanding they replace it AND color swap it over his own stupidity and carelessness. I'm talking about the people who think that anything produced by Apple is made of gold and apparently should transcend physics and basic properties of materials and manufacturing.

Well according to the "Physics" commercial the iPhone 5 does transcend physics ;)

In all seriousness, I'm not sure why that particularly story, or any story like that bothers you so much.
 
Each new scratch will decrease resale value of your iPhone 5. Just imagine the situation, when one year later you have to sell your phone and buy new iPhone 6. Who is interested to buy your phone if it scratched like a hell?

You also cant prevent it with almost any kind of bumper or case. Small particles of sand and dust will act as abrasive and scratch anodzied surface under the case even more if you leave the phone naked. We have to see very soon a lot of complaints "My xxx case scratched my iPhone!!!".

Clearly, Apple did big mistake with wrong choice of materials. They have to pay for it very soon. Period.
 
Each new scratch will decrease resale value of your iPhone 5. Just imagine the situation, when one year later you have to sell your phone and buy new iPhone 6. Who is interested to buy your phone if it scratched like a hell?

You also cant prevent it with almost any kind of bumper or case. Small particles of sand and dust will act as abrasive and scratch anodzied surface under the case even more if you leave the phone naked. We have to see very soon a lot of complaints "My xxx case scratched my iPhone!!!".

Clearly, Apple did big mistake with wrong choice of materials. They have to pay for it very soon. Period.

I don't believe that to be the case with the white version. Prove me wrong. Period.
 
I swear, half the forum has zero common sense. It doesn't take an engineer to realize that products are going to get scratched, scuffed, etc. through normal use.

Believe it or not, different materials have different physical properties. Believe it or not, any coating can be scratched or scuffed. Believe it or not, aluminum is an extremely soft metal that is malleable and can dent. Believe it or not, rubbing keys and coins against a finished surface can cause a scratch or scuff. Believe it or not, dropping a glass object can cause it to break.

Get a grip, people. The phone is a tool to be used, and it's not invincible just because Apple **** it out. ANY phone from ANY manufacturer of ANY material can be damaged/scuffed/scratched quite easily, especially anything that has a finish on it.

The sheer lack of common sense I see from people, people who clearly know absolutely nothing about the basic properties of materials which should really be common sense is astounding; only a complete idiot would think that sliding a phone on a hard surface or putting it in a pocket with other hard metal objects wouldn't damage the finish, or that dropping a glass object wouldn't break it. Get real. Put a case on it and stop whining, or take a basic course in common sense.

So if a few cars on a the car dealer lot has a fair amount of dings/scratches via transport, it's ok?
 
So if a few cars on a the car dealer lot has a fair amount of dings/scratches via transport, it's ok?

You didn't read the whole thread, I can tell.

As I've said already here, I'm not talking about people with phones obviously damaged out of the box. I'm sure now given the average American's 10 second attention span that 20 more people will ignore that I just said that for a second time and come in here posting about how nobody should expect a damaged product out of the box, which has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm referring to in the OP. This is the second time I've covered that I'm in agreement with the idea that products should not arrive obviously damaged, so anyone that posts that below this is just incompetent and illiterate.
 
I swear, half the forum has zero common sense. It doesn't take an engineer to realize that products are going to get scratched, scuffed, etc. through normal use.

Believe it or not, different materials have different physical properties. Believe it or not, any coating can be scratched or scuffed. Believe it or not, aluminum is an extremely soft metal that is malleable and can dent. Believe it or not, rubbing keys and coins against a finished surface can cause a scratch or scuff. Believe it or not, dropping a glass object can cause it to break.

Get real. Put a case on it and stop whining, or take a basic course in common sense.

What about the microscopic aliens in white ships spawning in the highly polished chamfers of the iPhone 5?

Don't they have the right to live?

BJ
 
As I've said already here, I'm not talking about people with phones obviously damaged out of the box. I'm sure now given the average American's 10 second attention span that 20 more people will ignore that I just said that for a second time and come in here posting about how nobody should expect a damaged product out of the box, which has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm referring to in the OP. This is the second time I've covered that I'm in agreement with the idea that products should not arrive obviously damaged, so anyone that posts that below this is just incompetent and illiterate.

I'm talking about the people who need a microscope to see a tiny manufacturing blemish, or the people who abuse the phone and then complain that it scratches and scuffs; like the guy I read about earlier today who dropped his phone on a stone, damaged it, then went and brought it back to Apple demanding they replace it AND color swap it over his own stupidity and carelessness. I'm talking about the people who think that anything produced by Apple is made of gold and apparently should transcend physics and basic properties of materials and manufacturing.

I think you are kind of missing the point. The coating is so non-durable that it is being scratched somewhere in the small amount of time between the where it is coated and put in the box at the factory - that isn't faintly close to normal wear and tear. Nobody that I have seen is complaining "Oh no, I dropped my phone from 4 feet up onto a tile floor and it scratched - damn that Apple and their flimsy coatings." A phone absolutely should not get scratched putting a brand new case on it one time. To try and spin that as unrealistic whining is pretty weak.
 
I think you are kind of missing the point. The coating is so non-durable that it is being scratched somewhere in the small amount of time between the where it is coated and put in the box at the factory - that isn't faintly close to normal wear and tear. Nobody that I have seen is complaining "Oh no, I dropped my phone from 4 feet up onto a tile floor and it scratched - damn that Apple and their flimsy coatings." A phone absolutely should not get scratched putting a brand new case on it one time. To try and spin that as unrealistic whining is pretty weak.

What does it matter? It's going to scuff the moment you put it in your pocket the first time. So basically you're pissed that you miss out on scratching it first and Apple should give you money for this?

BJ
 
I swear, half the forum has zero common sense. It doesn't take an engineer to realize that products are going to get scratched, scuffed, etc. through normal use.

Believe it or not, different materials have different physical properties. Believe it or not, any coating can be scratched or scuffed. Believe it or not, aluminum is an extremely soft metal that is malleable and can dent. Believe it or not, rubbing keys and coins against a finished surface can cause a scratch or scuff. Believe it or not, dropping a glass object can cause it to break.

Get a grip, people. The phone is a tool to be used, and it's not invincible just because Apple **** it out. ANY phone from ANY manufacturer of ANY material can be damaged/scuffed/scratched quite easily, especially anything that has a finish on it.

The sheer lack of common sense I see from people, people who clearly know absolutely nothing about the basic properties of materials which should really be common sense is astounding; only a complete idiot would think that sliding a phone on a hard surface or putting it in a pocket with other hard metal objects wouldn't damage the finish, or that dropping a glass object wouldn't break it. Get real. Put a case on it and stop whining, or take a basic course in common sense.

I believe the people are annoyed at how easy it is for it to be scratched. Also especially when it comes BNIB with so much scuffs and dents.
 
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Well now that I've read your giant angry wall of text, life makes sense. Thank you
I hate to give you props but that made me laugh.
Quit complaining about complainers. It just makes you look, well, stupid.

This is the point and many morons fail to see this because they are simple minded. It's made evident by them saying 'mine is perfect so quit whining'. Lack of empathy is usually associated with a low I.Q..
Albeit harsh, I agree. I don't agree with searching for the tiniest of all imperfections, but bent phones and glaring issues are things I too would be upset over. Me, I would be off returning it rather than bitching about it though.
Whining about a problem with a product you pay for makes a lot more sense than whining about people you dont know.

These threads are well labeled and easily avoidable so don't blame anyone else but yourself for your inability to click on topics that upset you. So take your own advice and "quit whining".
And then some ... the complaining is going to happen and no one forces any of us to read.
I highlighted the important part of your post.

Dude, that was ****ing genius! I actually grabbed a pen and started writing it down. You sir (or ma'am), are my hero. :D

As I've said already here, I'm not talking about people with phones obviously damaged out of the box. I'm sure now given the average American's 10 second attention span ...

Yo sweet cheeks, people who aren't American have short attention spans too, yanno?
 
I think you are kind of missing the point. The coating is so non-durable that it is being scratched somewhere
What does it matter? It's going to scuff the moment you put it in your pocket the first time. So basically you're pissed that you miss out on scratching it first and Apple should give you money for this?

BJ

Reading comprehension must be a lost art. I'm not pissed about anything and don't recall posting anything anywhere about Apple giving me money. I don't want anyone scratching my phone so I have a case on it. I merely point out that the flimsy coating Apple put on this phone appears to be susceptible to scratching and I would not consider this to be normal wear and tear.

Maybe you are distracted - problem with the trophy wife? Maybe you are showing some wear and tear and she's looking elsewhere? Please don't tell me your BMW has scratches on it! Or your Rolex either! That would be very bad.
 
I swear, half the forum has zero common sense. It doesn't take an engineer to realize that products are going to get scratched, scuffed, etc. through normal use.

Believe it or not, different materials have different physical properties. Believe it or not, any coating can be scratched or scuffed. Believe it or not, aluminum is an extremely soft metal that is malleable and can dent. Believe it or not, rubbing keys and coins against a finished surface can cause a scratch or scuff. Believe it or not, dropping a glass object can cause it to break.

Get a grip, people. The phone is a tool to be used, and it's not invincible just because Apple **** it out. ANY phone from ANY manufacturer of ANY material can be damaged/scuffed/scratched quite easily, especially anything that has a finish on it.

The sheer lack of common sense I see from people, people who clearly know absolutely nothing about the basic properties of materials which should really be common sense is astounding; only a complete idiot would think that sliding a phone on a hard surface or putting it in a pocket with other hard metal objects wouldn't damage the finish, or that dropping a glass object wouldn't break it. Get real. Put a case on it and stop whining, or take a basic course in common sense.


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No really, the iphone forum is getting rediculous, I think I'm going to actually give this place a month or two to let all the first batch moaners die down.
 
What does it matter? It's going to scuff the moment you put it in your pocket the first time. So basically you're pissed that you miss out on scratching it first and Apple should give you money for this?

BJ

The phone is going to be scuffed the moment you place it in your pocket? ... I don't know what the hell type of pants you wear but the ones I own are surely not made of sandpaper.
 
I can't agree more with the OP. There is no doubt that basketballs are round. Your point about square pegs was dead on. And yes, fuel injection has improved over the last 30 years. Thanks!
 
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