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Is it the apps waking up from App Nap or whatever? It may be related to the power conserving issues.
Are You Serious?
Daniel, really? You think this is the cause? Someone else in the thread said seeing the beach ball irks him. I'm the same way. I'm not a dev, but I think it has to be a bug. More and more people are coming forward with this issue. I am puzzled as to why Apple hasn't dealt with it, acknowledged it, or squashed it.
Oh well............
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Daniel, really? You think this is the cause? Someone else in the thread said seeing the beach ball irks him. I'm the same way. I'm not a dev, but I think it has to be a bug. More and more people are coming forward with this issue. I am puzzled as to why Apple hasn't dealt with it, acknowledged it, or squashed it.
Oh well............
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I think so. The way I understand timer coalescing to work is this: Imagine the computer is asked to do a bunch of simple different things. Normally, on other operating systems, the CPU would speed up (Intel Speedstep) multiple times and work on each of things individually as they come. Now, in 10.9, the computer will wait to do some of those things (hence beach ball), lump them together, speedup the CPU once, complete the tasks, and go back to resting. It's supposed to be imperceptible, and performance wise it seems like it's working just fine.
Just think that whenever you see that beachball for a split second, you're saving power/battery life and it'll be a happy thing. I see it once in a while on my rMBP with 10.9.
Except the problem is that with that, and app nap, programs like Final Cut Pro end up going to hell, as they usually do background rendering, and need the CPU and GPU for heavy transcoding, rendering, and exporting.
Everytime I saw a beach ball, I'd have a black part in my video that lasts exactly as long as the beach ball did. Which means 10.9 is horrible for people that need machine that actually uses all its resources.
I've even had several parts of music or effects come out garbled and just static because of those.
They either need to fix things, or get 10.9 to recognise when a machine isn't running off a battery, especially for iMac, and Mac Pros, so people can get the most out of their machine.
Not only that, but there shouldn't be system pauses/freezes at all. The fact that there are, means this new methods are still not ready for release.
Everytime I saw a beach ball, I'd have a black part in my video that lasts exactly as long as the beach ball did. Which means 10.9 is horrible for people that need machine that actually uses all its resources.
I've even had several parts of music or effects come out garbled and just static because of those.
They either need to fix things, or get 10.9 to recognise when a machine isn't running off a battery, especially for iMac, and Mac Pros, so people can get the most out of their machine.
Not only that, but there shouldn't be system pauses/freezes at all. The fact that there are, means this new methods are still not ready for release.
I think its more that FCP isn't ready yet for mavericks. I haven't had any of my apps freeze in mavericks.
I had many, especially content creation apps (Adobe et al). 10.9 GM is not ready for heavier production work.
I did but nothing really logged that would cause a beach ball. Again, my system works as expected but the cursor just becomes a beach ball, I can click and do things without pause.
I've experienced this too on 10.9 GM (the 1st one) for the past few weeks. This is most likely caused by the google chrome helper process that often is in a non-responding state.
I also created another thread a while back about this same issue:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1650587/
I also created another thread a while back about this same issue:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1650587/
Still seeing beachballs when browsing the Internet. It's just visually annoying. Has no real impact on productivity.
I'm having the exact same issue with the final release of Mavericks. I'm using a late 2012 mac mini which I purchased new about 2 months ago. I'm not seeing any performance issues at all, I just get random beachballs for a split second. It's really! annoying.
Same thing here.
I keep reading that it seems to be Chrome-related.
Definitely not, as I don't have Chrome installed.
I keep reading that it seems to be Chrome-related.
Definitely not, as I don't have Chrome installed.
I happens a lot to me as well. Both when using the finder, when browsing and when working in Photoshop. It does not affect the work but it really is something that irritates me a lot!
Hoping a fix soon....
Hoping a fix soon....
I see this too since Mavericks and on four different computers. One time it happened that I stopped moving the mouse cursor exactly at the time when the split second beach ball appeared, and this made it get sort of stuck. It was the beach ball, but it wasn't animated. As soon as I moved the mouse the cursor turned back to the arrow again.
Something is going for sure. Didn't think of that it might have to do with Timer Coalescing that's new to Finder. Perhaps that's it? Still a bit irritating since the cursor switch is somewhat of a distraction. Just as it is that many OS X apps has problems knowing when to switch from text selection cursor to the arrow cursor, i.e. you get the text selection cursor over buttons and other elements where it should be an arrow.
Something is going for sure. Didn't think of that it might have to do with Timer Coalescing that's new to Finder. Perhaps that's it? Still a bit irritating since the cursor switch is somewhat of a distraction. Just as it is that many OS X apps has problems knowing when to switch from text selection cursor to the arrow cursor, i.e. you get the text selection cursor over buttons and other elements where it should be an arrow.
With a late 2012 Mini purchased in January from Apple.com with a 2.6 GHz i7 processor and 16 GB Crucial RAM purchased from Micron, all the time.
For 10 months using Mountain Lion I never saw one. It started after installing Mavericks in October and can occur often in any application.
I had only one while writing this. I'm thankful that they're so fast that they haven't slowed me down yet.
I've read the other threads in this site so it looks like I'm the only one but yesterday's 10.9.1 update stopped most of my spinning beach balls. I've had very few of them after upgrading 6 hours ago and they're much quicker when they occur, 1/10th instead of ¼ of a second.
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